Sorry everyone. It's just me running bad.


All this will even out eventually.

They cancelled these commitments upon release, and the thought that FTP/PS gives info at least anything highly sensitive to some casino...?!?!?! We know what happened and how so why this post?

Both Casinos have severed these partnerships

Okay now I'm confused again.

In the example I gave, the 4 pieces of paper per x hours work was not being used for any good or service by that guy. The paper was sent out for use in another economy. The guy is not looking for a new supplier, there was never a thing that he was getting. The thing the guy got for his paper was sentimental, and there is no substitute for this within his new limited options.

I can see your point with restricting a particular good or service provider from doing business; but I am asking only about the impact of dollars sent out of the US economy.

Are these two issues the same in some way or?

I'd venture a guess that you're not worried about being able to withdraw your mirrions made online.

Murdering shows great personal responsibility. These posts are immature, and really should be more thought out.

This is absolutely incorrect, individual account funds are not company assests and the sites are required by law to hold them in trust.

I guess it wouldn't come as a huge shock to learn that UB have ignored this requirement, but there's absolutely no evidence to suggest Stars or FTP have.

Idk if it has been posted but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwCLUzUDVsY

Just a summary of what happened. Good to see it on ESPN's channel.

I just don't like this at all, and its uncomfortable

Welcome to the forums.

Cheers

Actually, there is evidence to the contrary.

Funds are 95%+ safe. How long it will take for US based players to get their money is another question, but there's no reason to think we're not getting our money back eventually.

In the meantime....Canada, here I come.

Have you never heard of 'trust funds'? The people who control them aren't the owners, they're the trustees. You'd need a financial expert - but I think this is how they're guaranteeing the money is safe.

The 74 accounts are named in the indictment - several of them are international and not US.

But they're not seized,
"restraining orders were issued against more than 75 bank accounts utilized by the Poker Companies and their payment processors ..."
Any of those banks which have had no dealings with US customers have no legal, financial or political reason to comply with what are essentially requests.

but on your last point - American players would probably be wise to play it safe and non-American players might want to limit their liability to online sites.

Well, not totally.

Where are people getting these '95% safe' figures from? Durrrr?

Yes you're right...Im the idiot. And congrats on your 8000000000 posts, I guess you're one of the Obamas on here.

We have 300 pages of a thread here with people surprised as heck as to what happened when in fact the writing was really on the wall when Tilt wasn't debiting deposits. Even now the exploration of playing on another site such as Bodog or Cake by a bunch of people in this thread truly shows how dumb most poker players are.

Welcome to the real world now...McDonalds is hiring. Make sure to put down that you grinded rush poker on your resume.

I think the point was that online poker is just one element of international trade, you lose money when you import things and you gain money when you export things.

Theory and practice have shown that free trade means that everybody benefits overall - and you damage your economy when you have protectionist and isolationist policies in place.

at least 97.6% of the figures quoted in this thread have been pulled directly out of the arse of whoever quoted them.

So the indictment specifically mentions 'founders' of the companies?

Is this some standard wording or do the mean the people who actually started the companies? Wouldn't it be more important who actually owned/run the companies whenever these transactions that are the issue started?

Surely they didn't start doing funny banking the day after UEGIA?

It seems a bit like. 'We know some pokercompanies did some illegal banking. We don't really have it all figured out but let's go after the 3 big ones and arrest some people to see what shakes out. Hopefully they'll start rating each other out. Starting with letting us know who actually owns/controls the companies.'

aplying at mcdonalds puttind grinded rush poker on app....lol whoever said that is a genious.

thanks for the laugh

If you live in the US and still want to play, why not try a VPN service? They only cost like $5.00 a month and make it appear like you are in Europe.

It costs 1 Torrent.

So what can we Canadians do right now? Twiddle our thumbs for a while until they fall off..

Because you must have an address based in Europe and we dont. how would we cash out?

cashing out may be a problem eh? what a buffoon

most Canadians can play afiak