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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-06-2020 , 01:51 AM
Are you guys looking at those cloud graphix on the weather channel now? I know I am.
03-06-2020 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
The problem is this guy cant work out that if you have a not very infectious disease that has very high fatality, and a very infectious disease that has a lower fatality, overall they are equally problematic.

What he doesn't get it how quickly this spreads. Two Chinese visitors with the virus visited Italy. From those two people 3,858 have ended up with it in Italy, of which 148 have died and 414 recovered. Yet our genius comes up with a mortality figure of 0.5 - 1%.
How do you know the exact number of the people in Italy who contracted the virus?
03-06-2020 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
How do you know the exact number of the people in Italy who contracted the virus?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...505969%2C0&z=1
03-06-2020 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by magoo
King’s Casino Closed to Italian Residents Due to Coronavirus Concerns
March 5th, 2020 by Daniel Smyth
The new coronavirus (COVID-19) has claimed another victim, forcing King’s Casino Rozvadov to shut it’s doors to players from — or who have recently visited — Italy.
Even with red text, your pony's a couple days behind.

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Originally Posted by uncleriver
Unless I misunderstood, I don't think that answers his real question.
03-06-2020 , 02:51 AM
03-06-2020 , 03:02 AM
I'm Czech, here domestic large events are working as usual
The only event the government has interfered with was Biathlon race that had a lot of international spectators, a lot of them from France Italy.

It wouldn't surprise me if casinos did what Kings does
And Wsop certainly is a threat as you will have a lot of people travelling
And I don't think it's easy to enforce a bam just on e.g. People from Washington state?
03-06-2020 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
How do you know the exact number of the people in Italy who contracted the virus?
One can't tell with absolute precision, as the official figures are those who have been diagnosed with the virus, but there will be lots of people with it who haven't been diagnosed with it, either because they haven't yet shown symptoms, or had it and recovered, but didn't have their symptoms diagnosed as the virus. But for it to have a 05% - 1% mortality rate there would have to be enormous numbers of undiagnosed virus that people recovered from, and that isn't the case.
03-06-2020 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
One can't tell with absolute precision, as the official figures are those who have been diagnosed with the virus, but there will be lots of people with it who haven't been diagnosed with it, either because they haven't yet shown symptoms, or had it and recovered, but didn't have their symptoms diagnosed as the virus. But for it to have a 05% - 1% mortality rate there would have to be enormous numbers of undiagnosed virus that people recovered from, and that isn't the case.
We actually have no idea if that's the case or not, but I can understand why you would think it quite unlikely. It certainly would require a lot of undiagnosed people - the likelihood of that would really depend on how they're doing with testing. A rate of 1% or less there seems like a stretch right now.

Of course that's just one country. While Albert hasn't exactly been stellar in this thread, it's entirely possible the 0.5-1.0% figure will be correct in the end - if not on average across the world, possibly in many countries. From everything I've read, it's just too early to know what the CFR truly is, but it seems likely to be substantially lower than the 3.4% number that WHO released this week. As you mentioned, there's going to be a huge number of people that haven't been diagnosed. I don't think it's a coincidence that in the US, where their testing is abysmally slow so far, the CFR is something like 7%, whereas in South Korea where they have already tested over 100,000 people, it's well under 1% (0.6% last I heard).

I found this article very interesting:

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/2116597...rate-explained
03-06-2020 , 05:31 AM
Interesting statement from a quarantined nurse who contracted the virus.

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/stat...994625/photo/1
03-06-2020 , 05:32 AM
One can only hope that's some kind of big misunderstanding and not a reflection of actual policy.
03-06-2020 , 05:40 AM
Korea: Drive-through testing

USA: Won't test nurses caring for confirmed infected patients, exhibiting symptoms
03-06-2020 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Korea: Drive-through testing

USA: Won't test nurses caring for confirmed infected patients, exhibiting symptoms
The stuff I'm seeing on Twitter is pretty ridiculous...
People calling to see where they can be tested, on the phone for hours and hours with no answers. Being told nowhere has testing equipment.

And then just the random 500 people I happen to follow I'm seeing tons of stuff that make it seem like the USA is super super chill about it.

03-06-2020 , 07:57 AM
I think people are forgetting this virus mainly affects older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions. If you are some 28 year old douche I think you can still play in the WSOP without worrying about dying from the Coronavirus.
03-06-2020 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 6MaxLHE
I think people are forgetting this virus mainly affects older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions. If you are some 28 year old douche I think you can still play in the WSOP without worrying about dying from the Coronavirus.
If you are some 28 year old douche should you worry about catching Coronavirus and passing it to older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions, so that they die?
03-06-2020 , 08:13 AM
Bobo and Crane, thanks for the links. It's always nice to be able to get good stuff in amongst all the noise.
03-06-2020 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
If you are some 28 year old douche should you worry about catching Coronavirus and passing it to older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions, so that they die?
If it gets that bad you won't have a choice to go to the WSOP. It will be cancelled. I work in a nursing home and all essential employees will have to report to work and wear masks. The world of healthcare and the world in general will not stop because of a virus except for nonessential group gatherings (IE the WSOP). Every employee here has to get a flu shot unless they have a medical or religious excuse and if they don't get their flu shot they have to wear a mask.
03-06-2020 , 10:35 AM
I have an idea... everyone stock up on food/water/medicine and barricade themselves in their homes for 30 days. Only essential emergency workers etc.. are allowed in the public and must wear full body decontamination suits. This should eradicate the common cold. The flu would probably live on (because animals can transfer it), but it would be at an immensely smaller level.
03-06-2020 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
I have an idea... everyone stock up on food/water/medicine and barricade themselves in their homes for 30 days.
I went to Smith's yesterday (Las Vegas) and everyone had six cases of water in their cart. There are no masks or hand sanitizers available, and the manager told me the warehouse is empty as well. One lady bought ten containers of rubbing alcohol (I guess she was going to make her own sanitizer), and the hydrogen peroxide shelf was almost bare.
03-06-2020 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
I have an idea... everyone stock up on food/water/medicine and barricade themselves in their homes for 30 days. Only essential emergency workers etc.. are allowed in the public and must wear full body decontamination suits. This should eradicate the common cold. The flu would probably live on (because animals can transfer it), but it would be at an immensely smaller level.
I said the same thing to my friends and they all said it wouldn’t work.
I wish this could happen though. If the entire world could just press the pause button, let it die out. And resume.
03-06-2020 , 11:48 AM
It won't work because there are thousands of CCRCs and hospitals in this country that depend on doctors, nurses, food service and facilities workers. A lot of the people at the nursing facility I work at live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to stay home and shelter in place. Also they face termination for calling out sick which also gives them an incentive to show up. Basically it creates a perfect storm for disease to spread.
03-06-2020 , 11:56 AM
03-06-2020 , 12:22 PM
people are way too dumb with money to stay home 30 days, so many people live paycheck to paycheck
03-06-2020 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MaxLHE
If you are some 28 year old douche I think you can still play in the WSOP without worrying about dying from the Coronavirus.
To protect the wider community, perhaps the Main Event could be played on a cruise ship off the coast of California.
03-06-2020 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
people are way too dumb with money to stay home 30 days, so many people live paycheck to paycheck
Yeah, that’s the issue. Not shutting down most of the economy for 30 days. This thread is way more toxic than Coronavirus.
03-06-2020 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MaxLHE
I think people are forgetting this virus mainly affects older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions. If you are some 28 year old douche I think you can still play in the WSOP without worrying about dying from the Coronavirus.
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
If you are some 28 year old douche should you worry about catching Coronavirus and passing it to older people and those with autoimmune and preexisting respiratory conditions, so that they die?
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Originally Posted by 6MaxLHE
...I work in a nursing home...

      
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