He's just so much better at campaigning compared to the 2 previous Conservative leaders, he actually attacks the opposition rather than trying to be Liberal lite. He keeps this up I might actually vote for him next election.

He is not my first pick but who else you going to vote for? If you truly want Justin gone than a vote for anyone else is a vote to keep Justin .

I didn't really expect lozen to doxx himself, but I guess I've given enough info here too if someone really cared to go digging

I do agree with Shifty that Poilievre has been a genuinely excellent campaigner. I find his entire schtick repulsive as ****, but it is exactly the type of thing that makes PPC supporters like Shifty come back into the fold and of course lozen is going to vote for him regardless.

There is another thread were you can find out who I am . Its not like I am giving you my credit card info. Thought folks would be interested in the prices here in Edmonton

Hey a very close person to me that has served in politics at the provincial level for 14 years and is a diehard conservative says she will not vote for Pierre . Doesn't think he can win two terms

Correct I will walk into that booth and vote Conservative unless the Liberals have a different leader

Good for her. Poilievre is terrible, and diehard conservatives should be very wary. You of course are motivated primarily by seething hatred of Trudeau and nothing will or could ever convince you to not vote for whoever the not-Trudeau, no matter how contradictory he is with your stated beliefs.

I'll just one example. You repeatedly claim to care about climate change and think Trudeau should be stronger and doing more on climate change. Poilievre has promised to rip up the one main thing Trudeau has done and has proposed nothing at all to replace it. Yet you will still vote for him.

First off I do not hate him . I dislike him and for many good reasons

I would agree Pierre has no plan to put in place and having no climate strategy may cost him an election. Though I also think its very easy to point out the fact Justin's plan only hurts CDN's while doing very little to help the climate situation.

I have been consistently clear that I believe Climate will have a huge impact on the planet but Justin's feeble plan only destroys CDN jobs and will do nothing

Lets let Justin Fly across the country to plant a tree and fly back to Ottawa and burn all that carbon and drink from his cardboard water bottles. Climate Phony

Probably but the thing it doesn’t matter what ppc like , the form of attacking politics like trump won’t rallies the votes ppc don’t have ….

So ironically it’s + ev for liberals .
Go Pierre go .

I can’t wait to see Pierre polievre administrating throughout Canada by train and Tesla .
And go to Europe by boat .

Pierre is not campaigning as a climate phony .

There is a reason JT wants to ban flight tracking

https://capforcanada.com/trudeau-fli...ight-tracking/

Wonder if he used the Ariivecan app when he landed?


#climatephony

U can’t complain on one politician , calling him name and w.e else while u vote for someone who would do the same freakn thing if not worst ….

And it’s the right and trumpist complaining about double standard towards the opposition ?

Wot? You think that if the PC party loses this election, it is because their candidate doesn't have a climate strategy that demonstrates he takes the threat seriously?

I suppose there's a small chance you may be right: but that would involve a primary to general election pivot that would give his handlers whiplash - far more likely is the PC party losing because their candidate's viewpoints have been defined by the current political environment and there is little in those viewpoints that appeal to a swing voter.

I've voted PC every election (save for last provincial, when my wife voted PC by accident and I went Liberal to balance it out), and nothing about Pierre appeals to me - which is a shame, because this upcoming election is definitely winnable with a palatable candidate.

I do not disagree with anything you are saying but do you think Justin Trudeau still has that charm and folks will believe him when he says something . 6-9 months ago I thought the Conservatives had no chance with Pierre . But back than inflation wasn't running rampant, Passport Offices and Airports and Arrive Can were not a total mess .
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I think many voters have had it with JT and all his broken promises and now crewing over farmers with his 30% reduction in fertilizer

Ask Jagmeet how that is going with his dental care promise from JT

No one would bat an eye if Polievre went driving down the trans-Canada in a 65 mustang using leaded gas: it's what we would expect from him - he would undoubtably tweet about it and mock those he considers 'woke'. It's Trudeau's actions versus his words that open himself up to being called a hypocrite.

After 3 terms, Trudeau (if he runs) and the Liberal party is definitely an underdog. However, Pierre will underperform a generic PC candidate. If you think he's the one, then you're hoping his agenda can galvanize enough of the base to come out and vote, while not turning off too many in the middle: my personal opinion is that's not a winning strategy.

First time in my life I bought a Membership and my vote was not for Pierre .

I think a lot will depend on Trudeau if he keeps his promise to Jagmeet by years end. If he does not and Jagmeet does not take Justin fdown and send CDN's to the polls

I've listened to him on JP's podcast, seen a bunch of clips and briefly scrolled through his campaign site. But why should diehard conservatives be very wary? I see this line often on Reddit etc. But never really see any specific reason why.

Simply because your view of what is good for society (or what is « true ») isn’t really what the majority thinks .
So as more you will find someone in the likes of your thinking , less you will see that person in power .

Yes but so does your view. Also you have a PM that does everything to protect Quebec

A majority of CDN;s think bill 21 is discriminatory as are your upcoming language laws .

Also the majority of CDN's support pipelines and farmers

If he keeps doing stuff like the breakfast ad and pound Trudeau on the multiple failures, inflation and broken promises. We all know Trudeau is going to pound the abortion thing.


Lets be honest an election could be months away or years. Things can rapidly change in 6 months just look at down south.

You are free to believe religion do not imposes discrimination on their subject and do not perpetrated discriminatory value .

In Quebec we believe discrimination is bad , regardless of what those discrimination ideas comes form.
While the rest of Canada do embraces discrimination .
Proof ?
Explain to me why sihks aren’t obliged to wear a helmet doing motorcycle when everyone are ?

In Quebec we are treated equal under state law .

Originally I thought this plan really does very little other than allow you to accumulate interest tax free in this account if you use it for a Down Payment on a house. With interest rates so low what good is it. Though now that rates are on the rise it looks like a better program.
Id be curious if like a TFSA you could invest in stocks which would also make it more attractive.

Like A TFSA this would benefit more of the middle income folks

U seem to under appreciate the deductible tax contribution .
With the compounding effect u save massively .

My understanding is that much like the poorly named TFSA (it isn't a savings account!!!) this is just a bucket in which you can invest broadly just can't do day trading type of things.

Incidentally I also dislike the TFSA structure politically (Despite loving it personally) because it is regressive in that it helps out richer people in higher tax brackets more. I'd prefer a system that took the X dollars in tax deferrals that TFSA costs the government, and spent X on matching contributions instead.