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Do conservatives want to ban transition care for all transgender people, not just children? Do conservatives want to ban transition care for all transgender people, not just children?
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Most conservatives want to get rid of transgender people
15 39.47%
A significant percentage, but not "most", conservatives want to get rid of transgender people
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04-27-2023 , 09:06 PM
Law &Order tonight does a case on the Trans issue and the treatment of kids
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04-27-2023 , 09:14 PM
Lozen law and order is fiction. Hope that helps.
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04-27-2023 , 09:29 PM
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Lozen law and order is fiction. Hope that helps.
Yes it's fiction but often they cover cases on issues that are prevalent in today's society.

My apologies for mentioning it
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04-29-2023 , 07:26 AM
eh probably if they had unlimited power money and time they would try and ban it.

.. but preventing a grown man from getting fakies is very low on their to-do list.
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04-29-2023 , 08:07 AM
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It is rated the 9th best wine at Costco fwiw.

https://www.eatthis.com/costco-best-wines/
costco only does have a small collection of wines so they should all be ok to good and they are according to review sites.

I could find that there are several cosctco pinots, all rated pretty well, with prices ranging from 36 for a gallon imo and the lowest transferring to 3 dollar per liter.
so I don't know which pinot you guys are talking about. it could be the Californian Costco pinot but availability is different in all Costco branches it says to regional wine making. you could also mean thrit Kirkland brand. you can still get everything online but the prices are going to be higher than regional wines at Costco of course.

but as you're all in north America I'm assuming you mean the Kirkland brand. or the Californian pinot sold at Costco.

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04-29-2023 , 12:31 PM
law and order is copaganda.
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04-29-2023 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
costco only does have a small collection of wines so they should all be ok to good and they are according to review sites.

I could find that there are several cosctco pinots, all rated pretty well, with prices ranging from 36 for a gallon imo and the lowest transferring to 3 dollar per liter.
so I don't know which pinot you guys are talking about. it could be the Californian Costco pinot but availability is different in all Costco branches it says to regional wine making. you could also mean thrit Kirkland brand. you can still get everything online but the prices are going to be higher than regional wines at Costco of course.

but as you're all in north America I'm assuming you mean the Kirkland brand. or the Californian pinot sold at Costco.
Yes North America and the White Pinot Grigio either by the bottle or box Bottle is $8.99 CDN I do believe its like $4.99 in the USA by the bottle
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04-30-2023 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
law and order is copaganda.
Yeah. I hadn't given a lot of thought to this until I saw John Oliver's feature of Dick Wolf.
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05-02-2023 , 08:48 AM
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Yes North America and the White Pinot Grigio either by the bottle or box Bottle is $8.99 CDN I do believe its like $4.99 in the USA by the bottle
Ah ok thanks. I was looking at the wine selection at costco and compared it to Europe. not much difference there but I guess that was obvious. they say pino grigio here too all the time I just forgot what it was. they don't say pinot i think they say pinot grigio as for white wine I think.

pinot grigio is white wine and pinot noir is red wine.
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06-03-2023 , 10:10 AM
Many will dismiss her now as a transphobe


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06-04-2023 , 12:09 AM
Ha, I was wondering where your choice to misgender Lia Thomas in the other trans thread came from. I see every one of your talking points in that thread was cribbed from the above video. Not quite sure why you post that video about pronouns in this thread about gender affirming care as opposed to either the thread about trans rhetoric or the trans sports thread you used the talking points in. I suppose it's a good illustration of a much earlier point of mine about how all the various trans issues run together into single narratives by people like Kelly.
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06-04-2023 , 02:27 PM
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Ha, I was wondering where your choice to misgender Lia Thomas in the other trans thread came from. I see every one of your talking points in that thread was cribbed from the above video. Not quite sure why you post that video about pronouns in this thread about gender affirming care as opposed to either the thread about trans rhetoric or the trans sports thread you used the talking points in. I suppose it's a good illustration of a much earlier point of mine about how all the various trans issues run together into single narratives by people like Kelly.
I have been on the fence on the Trans issue for a while . I believe in testing everyone with respect . I have never been supportive of men competing against women you can't reverse science . I was on the fence on the puberty blockers for kids and surgery for kids as for adults I don't care what you do .

But yes like Kelly I pretty much agree with everything she says . The only difference I have is I will use the correct he/she pronouns for those that show women their respect .

I have no issue with any bill that blocks anyone under the age of 18 from getting puberty blockers or doctors mutilation of children
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06-12-2023 , 02:05 PM
Healthy Debate is what we need.


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06-12-2023 , 04:15 PM
Glad to see you've found a video with someone else who is also misgendering trans celebrities.
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06-12-2023 , 04:26 PM
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Glad to see you've found a video with someone else who is also misgendering trans celebrities.
Jordan is the man! He reminds me of this guy.
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06-12-2023 , 04:56 PM
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Glad to see you've found a video with someone else who is also misgendering trans celebrities.
Yes I caught that as well with Elliot Page . You could report him to Justin and have him charged under Bill C16 .
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06-13-2023 , 02:19 PM
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law and order is copaganda.
Yeah as opposed to entertainment.

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Yeah. I hadn't given a lot of thought to this until I saw John Oliver's feature of Dick Wolf.
That was not a particularly convincing piece by Oliver.
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06-14-2023 , 08:53 AM
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Healthy Debate is what we need.


I don't know how a sane person could disagree with any of Jordan's points here.
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06-14-2023 , 09:20 AM
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I don't know how a sane person could disagree with any of Jordan's points here.
Peterson's take on the media seems pretty ****ing dumb. What is this power that media has that can apparently only turn cis hetero people into LGBTQ+ people and not work the other way around? And how powerful must it be considering that 99% of media you're exposed to reinforces the cis hetero perspective.

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06-14-2023 , 10:30 AM
The fact that we group LGB with TQ2S+I is baffling to me The first is a sexual preference and the second is an ideology .

No kidding that the Algorithms will show more content with that narrative if you view it.

Now the President of the USA has spoken up for gender affirming surgery and the potential of castration of children.
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06-14-2023 , 10:43 AM
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The fact that we group LGB with TQ2S+I is baffling to me The first is a sexual preference and the second is an ideology .

No kidding that the Algorithms will show more content with that narrative if you view it.

Now the President of the USA has spoken up for gender affirming surgery and the potential of castration of children.
This is transphobic filth that tries to separate LGBTQ+ people into two categories, the good LGB people that lozen accepts and the bad trans people that lozen doesn't, and denigrates as an “ideology” or a “religion” etc. I guess the “Algorithms” fed this to you just like they fed you your misgendering bit.
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06-14-2023 , 10:52 AM
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The fact that we group LGB with TQ2S+I is baffling to me The first is a sexual preference and the second is an ideology .
OK? Sure it's new and different and maybe confusing the first few times. You can basically just use "LGBT" and be fine 99.999% of the time.
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06-14-2023 , 11:32 AM
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This is transphobic filth that tries to separate LGBTQ+ people into two categories, the good LGB people that lozen accepts and the bad trans people that lozen doesn't, and denigrates as an “ideology” or a “religion” etc. I guess the “Algorithms” fed this to you just like they fed you your misgendering bit.
There you go spouting your religion. I have not said bad people or hate. I just said one is a sexual preference and the other is an ideology.

Yet you fail to tell me why the documentary What is a women so bad I forget the terms you used. I asked you if you watched it? no reply. Ive seen 15 minutes of it and no were does he spout hate he asks questions.

Oh right if you question any part the bullying begins.
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06-14-2023 , 11:50 AM
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It Now they are also integrating pedophiles into this group and calling them MAPS and NOMAPS. Like really? We are going to attempt to de-stigmatize pedophiles?
Careful this is what got lagtight banned.
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06-14-2023 , 12:22 PM
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There you go spouting your religion. I have not said bad people or hate. I just said one is a sexual preference and the other is an ideology.
Saying that a trans is an ideology/religion is - of course - a negative characterization. If you had said trans people is about gender identity as opposed to sexual preference well that is a fair enough dichotomy (still silly to object to LGBT people being in the same community, but whatever). But you contrasted a defining aspect of gay people (sexual orientation), with a negative characterization for trans people (religion/ideology).

This is a great example of how despite your claims to only be against the two narrow policy issues of gender affirming care in trans youth and inclusion in sport, so much of your language contains these kinds of endless barbs against trans people. It is the same issue when you describe a trans person receiving gender affirming care as "mutilation and castration", choosing the most inflammatory possible language to describe what for the trans person undoubtedly feels extremely different from that.
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