I did change it to gender affirming surgery to please you but do the chemicals or medicines prescribed make it so they can't have children?

No comment on Why What is a women offensive and have you seen it ? Feel free to say I refuse to answer that question.....

Ok, it sounds like you are unwilling or unable to process the critique that contrasting gay people as a sexual orientation and trans people as a "ideology" is absolutely disgusting.

I've seen many clips of it. It's a horrific denial of the existence of trans people under the guise of a faux-serious gotcha question. I'm sure you would lap it up if you watched it. So don't. If you want to know more about the winner of the Transphobe of the Year, read here: https://newrepublic.com/article/1696...ear-matt-walsh

Oh yow saw clips please direct me to a clip you found offensive and why. Ill watch it as I have an open mind

And I think the fact you think anyone under the age of 18 should be allowed in our society to undertake gender affirming surgery or medicines or chemicals that castrate them as well disgusting as well that Lia Thomas can be nominated for NCAA swimmer of the year also disgusting

As for any adult that identifies as Trans do whatever you want to your body and dress and act any way you want but when I see a trans individual that says I want you to use these pronouns on these days and a different set on another day and I can change my pronouns as we speak ill call it for what it is a mental health issue. I will acknowledge that under rare circumstances an individual may be born in the wrong body but not at the rates were seeing today .

Lol, I'm not going to help you source your next round of anti-trans fodder. Between the suggestion of mental health issues, the characterization of trans people to flippantly changing pronouns as we speak, and the denial that most trans people are actually trans you've got enough already all wrapped up in that one post.

lozen, you gotta know when to fold.

It's abundantly clear that uke is dealing with this issue very directly in his/her personal life somewhere, and you're just not gonna win the battle of attrition.

Do you support transitional surgery for kids though? Or minors, under 18?

I do not know if he is or not. That may be the case and he has a different point of view and is passionate about it . Im sure their is a parent out there with a daughter that was beaten by trans athlete and couldn't cared less about the issue but does now. Im sure the parents of the girl that got raped by a trans person in school never thought that was an issue. Yes they are rare cases but so is suicide amongst the trans community. Doesn't mean we should dismiss it any of them

It was an issue I wanted to educate myself on more and have come to the conclusion I have. If I ran into Dylan Mulvaney I would treat her with respect. The opposite would be said for Lia Thomas

Ill trust the science

Have you seen someone actually try to change their pronouns in the middle of a conversation? Or are you just imagining things to get upset about?

Well, anyway, NHS England will no longer permit puberty blockers to be prescribed except in controlled clinical trials. Several other European countries are going in a similar direction.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/h...itain-nhs.html

The NYT article is, however, wrong to say that the Tavistock's own study showed that blockers -- powerful late-stage-cancer drugs which have never been medically trialled or approved as a treatment for gender dysphoria at the age of normal puberty, but only for cases of precocious puberty in girls, where the drugs are stopped at the age of normal puberty so that the body's development can take its natural course -- have 'no effect' on mental-health outcomes. In fact the Tavistock GIDS' own study, insofar as they bothered to do any follow-up at all, showed that 'transition', including the use of blockers, disimproved mental-health outcomes and actually led to an increase in suicidality, which was not otherwise a marked tendency in GD patients when other psychological conditions were controlled for.

The Tavistock GIDS sat on these results for years and did not want to publish them because they showed that the Tavistock was harming and not helping its young patients, and was doing this in pursuit of ideological and not medical goals. The Cass Review has found the Tavistock's practices to be unsafe and unsound, which is why the GIDS clinic, after much delay, is now scheduled for closure next March. It is likely that from now on England will only allow children already on blockers to be given them, with proper follow-up for once. GD youth services will concentrate, instead of body modification, on a holistic psychological approach to what is, after all, a psychological condition, since it is known that, if left alone, almost all patients grow out of GD once puberty takes its normal course and they mostly resolve to being gay and reasonably happy about that.

The massively disproportionate number of autistic children, and children from state care homes or fostering services, in the Tavistock's intake -- meaning children who are to an unusual degree at the mercy of non-family adults in controlling 'professional' roles -- has been and remains a very serious concern. In Canada there is a similar situation, with the notable addition of indigenous first-nation children, who are again grossly over-represented in the cohort subjected to 'transing'.

How does the length of this list make this more of a religion?

Also, it can be worth noting that most things on this list are really just the same thing as each other. It's therefore not really as long as it looks.

The inventors of these terms would disagree with you

People with a 'trans friend' or 'trans kid' do sometimes get very militant, but I always understood that uke is a Canadian academic, and therefore has to trumpet his fealty to the new state religion or get fired.

Am I supposed to care about that? Are you one of those inventors and actually have some disagreement with me? People are free to make up whatever terms they want, but we don't really have a basis for accepting them as distinct.

So much of the conservative case against transgender politics is just "I can't learn new words!"

Sadly I have no clue if she/her is serious or this is just humor


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CshIc...U1MTFhOQ%3D%3D

Whats wrong with male/female & straight, gay, bi? LGBT. Seriously, why can't it stop there?

New words r tuff

I strongly suspect this is a skit. It's a little too on-the-nose.

I'm sure there are people who behave like that, but there's absolutely no chance that their hair would be so nice.

Nothing? They're fine words, feel free to use them. Not sure what the complaint here is other than you don't want to learn new words (which you don't have to if you can't/don't want to!).

Lol, this is comically ridiculous and mostly serves to demonstrate a profound ignorance of both me and academia.

Another person with comically ridiculous assumptions about me that have no basis in fact.

It shouldn't be up to me, or you, and certainly not a bunch of GOP politicians. My understanding of gender affirming care is that the overwhelming majority is therapy and supports for social transition, then much rarer than that is various hormone therapies, and by the time you get to something like surgeries of kids - particularly young kids - it is exceedingly rare to non-existent depending on precisely what one is talking about. That doesn't seem appropriate, and think these are decisions between doctors and families. I don't have the expertise, for instance, to say that the american associations for pediatrics is wrong in their gender affirming care recommendations.

There are currently 5 children's hospitals that perform this surgery . Hospitals see profit and a growing industry

So your answer is yes

When a kid says he thinks he is the opposite sex we should believe him/her?

Same kid that thinks Santa Claus is real ?

Well minors are minors so it is up to the state/society to guide them into adulthood. It's why we have AOC/drinking/voting laws, for example. Do you mean politicians or politicians of a specific party? Is this ideology on your part, with your mention of GOP politicians? Are you in favour of hormone therapy for minors wrt transitioning? How are they between doctors and families? A say, dysfunctional family doesn't get to decide that their kid can drink or have sex at 12 for example. Again we have legislation covering various issues to guide and protect minors, to a degree. For some minors this could well be a phase, and that's not detracting from the trans issue, but it's a valid concern.

What's wrong with not allowing such measures until the minor is 18 and can decide for themselves? I don't think such a position is transphobic. If a minor isn't capable of informed consent for example, then why are they capable all of a sudden of informed consent regarding an issue of such potentially serious magnitude?

Five? Damn, sounds like a booming industry.

I don't think you internalized my post. I think such things should generally left up to the medical community to make recommendations. For now, groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics guidance includes cases where hormone therapy for children under 18 can be the best medical recommendation. Like most things in life, there are risks and there are benefits and it isn't for me to impose one thing that must apply to every single person, I think this is something for doctors in consultation with families to consider.

I mentioned GOP politicians because it is primarily GOP politicians who are trying to overturn the recommendations of the medical community. I also don't think the comparisons to drinking or sex is particularly helpful - this is something that necessitates being done in conjunction with the medical community.