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PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011 PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011

03-01-2011 , 11:17 PM
It's in the lobby right now. It probably will disappear when the server restarts soon.
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03-02-2011 , 02:07 AM
Dear god these fifty-50s sucks.
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03-02-2011 , 03:35 AM
Played in the last ever Don 104 and cashed. Me = legend!
50/50 If u finish in 4th or 5th 5 games in a row then lose 2. u come out losing cash. That sucks. The play like super turbos at times. Had one finish in 11 minutes. Makes sne easier hopefully!
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03-02-2011 , 04:12 AM
i do enjoy winning 2x-2.5x my buyin sometimes compared to DoN, but now I realized its more fun to win a normal STT (after bad F50 swings).
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03-02-2011 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
Not very nice to call me an idiot. did i call u an idiot? you idiot! But i forgive. yes, stars is a total business model. It is baffling to me how as a regular winner, i brick flushdraws etc 100's of times more than the new players and less skilled ones. It is also amazing how they make their flushes 100 times more than me. I I use flush draws as an example since they are usually the easiest drws to make in terms of percentages. I went over my hand chart for various situatiuons (flushes, open-enders, big hands getting counterfieted etc and it is scary how dramatic the difference is from what the expected results over time are. I mean, it is not even somewhat close to not being ridiculous. I would love to see this site have their "card generator" evaulated by an independent company. The cards dealt in certain sistuations (not all..i do bel sometimes they lay off the doomswitch so to speak and it is random), but in certain spots depending on skill level of players involved in the had....there is something very very strange going on...DUH!!!!! I REALIZED IT ALL ALONG BUT SONCE I WON OVER TIME IN THEIR DONS (espeically considering in dons u stay of of the way so can avoid these sopts) I DIDNT COMPLAIN. On the other hand , i was a decent low stakes heads up multi tabler prior to dons and i started noticing that the better and better i got in hu sngs, the more my weaker opponents would consistently win every flip and make the craziest suckouts time and time and time and time again.
Flush Draws on PS.....I never fold those, maybe 1%. After a million hands you know why.

Hope they die along with all those ***** and **** that's infested in. Stupid ****en ***** run better than germans now. Its who ever their next target is.

I'd be happy to win 50% of my 80/20's at this point.
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03-02-2011 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by skcuSnawD
Flush Draws on PS.....I never fold those, maybe 1%. After a million hands you know why.

Hope they die along with all those ***** and **** that's infested in. Stupid ****en ***** run better than germans now. Its who ever their next target is.

I'd be happy to win 50% of my 80/20's at this point.
lmao, no dude, MY flush draws should always be folded (i miss them a great percentage of the time whereas the players i am up agaisnt make them a great majority of the time. Usuallt they almost always hit when i fold if im not getting good pot odds to call. it is on purpose.
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03-02-2011 , 07:07 PM
btw good job stars, not only have u lost many don players (check carbon and cake and u will see the increased traffic) BUT ur are now about to have to exit New Jersey (which is a small state but with a very high population esp the part near NYC). Cheers stars...ur near losing another 5 percent of the u.s. market soon (governor christie about to sign ito law tommorrow). lololol
hahahahaha. u guys deserve it!!!!

we gotta havew a forum pool on the pokerstars exit date. i am guessing thier full us exit will be in september. just my feeling.
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03-02-2011 , 07:17 PM
ahaahahahahahah////if they lose cali they are basically gone. big population of players gone!!! guys they are done very very very very soon. I see a domino effect coming the united states where each state will follow the lead on the other states. peace stars. ur outta here!!!! players, get ur money off that site. also, dont bother learning the 50's cause if stars isnt gone soon then the 50's will be axed anyway. AND BYE STARS COMMERICALS (THANK GOD CAUSE THEY ARE REAL BAD) Maybe Ceaser's ent will put dons on their soon-to-be licensed sites (so obvious that this is coming. it's only a matter of when. THe "if" part of it is over...this is gonna happen in the u.s. starting this spring. now, my cards really will be random. niiiiice!!!

http://www.vendingtimes.com/ME2/dirm...3991ADEE2E58D9

Last edited by seanysean; 03-02-2011 at 07:22 PM.
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03-02-2011 , 07:56 PM
ahaahahahahahah////if they lose cali they are basically gone. big population of players gone!!! guys they are done very very very very soon. I see a domino effect starting in the united states where each state will follow the lead of the other states. peace stars. ur outta here!!!! players, get ur money off that site. also, dont bother learning the 50's cause if stars isnt gone soon then the 50's will be axed anyway. AND BYE STARS COMMERICALS (THANK GOD CAUSE THEY ARE REAL BAD) Maybe Ceaser's entertainment will put dons on their soon-to-be licensed sites (so obvious that this regulation is coming). it's only a matter of when. The "if" part of it is over...this is gonna happen in the u.s. starting this spring. now I will finally know for sure that my cards really are random. niiiiice!!! I'm starting to fall in love with this regulation stuff.
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03-02-2011 , 08:36 PM
Well i tried the fifty's for a week & i'm done with them dopes .. would rather sit slowly poking my eyes out with 2 pencils as i'd probably get slightly more sadistic pleasure from it

Don't quite understand all the legislation stuff as a UK player .. but if it's as bad as you say i might as well go for a trip round the world & blow some of these DON profits instead
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03-02-2011 , 08:45 PM
Ban this troll.
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03-02-2011 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ZERO_77
Well i tried the fifty's for a week & i'm done with them dopes .. would rather sit slowly poking my eyes out with 2 pencils as i'd probably get slightly more sadistic pleasure from it

Don't quite understand all the legislation stuff as a UK player .. but if it's as bad as you say i might as well go for a trip round the world & blow some of these DON profits instead

Trust me, he has no clue what he's talking about as far as legislation goes. There is not really much hope for anything until 2015, the next possible time for a democratic majority.

There was a piece of legislation on the table last fall that got a lot of attention here (15mo blackout). It didn't happen and now we have 4 years of republican majority and NO possibility of any poker regulation.


If you haven't figured it out yet this sean guy is a little upset about the DON thing... I don't think he's completely objective. If the DONs were never canceled he'd still be playing on Stars, but because they are he is on here saying stars is rigged and about to go out of business.
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03-02-2011 , 09:14 PM
ahh I see Cheers .. I know a lot of higher stake players are worried about it though & it will obviously filter down the levels if it all happens

Seany may seem a little bitter but a lot of DON players will just simply leave the site sooner rather than later .. all it takes is to lose Supernova status for a month or so & there's no real incentive for many to hang around

Many haven't even played since the announcement was made .
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03-02-2011 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WPS11
Trust me, he has no clue what he's talking about as far as legislation goes. There is not really much hope for anything until 2015, the next possible time for a democratic majority.

There was a piece of legislation on the table last fall that got a lot of attention here (15mo blackout). It didn't happen and now we have 4 years of republican majority and NO possibility of any poker regulation.


If you haven't figured it out yet this sean guy is a little upset about the DON thing... I don't think he's completely objective. If the DONs were never canceled he'd still be playing on Stars, but because they are he is on here saying stars is rigged and about to go out of business.
A republican just introduced an online poker bill so its stupid to say that only a democrat congress would pass gaming legislation. The Republican party is trending back towards their old policies of personal freedom and low government interference. We could very well see a bill passed this year. Stars will leave if there is a blackout period but they will be right back once that is over.
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03-02-2011 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ZERO_77
ahh I see Cheers .. I know a lot of higher stake players are worried about it though & it will obviously filter down the levels if it all happens

Seany may seem a little bitter but a lot of DON players will just simply leave the site sooner rather than later .. all it takes is to lose Supernova status for a month or so & there's no real incentive for many to hang around

Many haven't even played since the announcement was made .
One thing professional poker players have in common with casual poker players is they rarely stop playing poker. I seriously doubt ANYONE has stopped playing poker altogether and very few have or will leave the site.

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03-02-2011 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by t_roy
A republican just introduced an online poker bill so its stupid to say that only a democrat congress would pass gaming legislation. The Republican party is trending back towards their old policies of personal freedom and low government interference.
At this point, we need government to interfere with the status quo.
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03-03-2011 , 12:09 AM
50/50 could not be a worse player format/rake but its a boon to stars faster games higher rake........... sometimes I wonder just how stupid stars thinks we are?
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03-03-2011 , 12:11 AM
and rest assured that caesars and WSOP brand are sitting in wings waiting to be the next Stars. Already hired former Party boss to begin it in euro markets
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03-03-2011 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by t_roy
A republican just introduced an online poker bill so its stupid to say that only a democrat congress would pass gaming legislation. The Republican party is trending back towards their old policies of personal freedom and low government interference. We could very well see a bill passed this year. Stars will leave if there is a blackout period but they will be right back once that is over.
You may think its stupid, but my statement was more of a general consensus/fact than a personal opinion. Every single attempt to regulate online gaming nationwide has come from the democratic side. The republicans have contested those attempts every single time. The republicans also brought us UIGEA. If it wasn't for republican opposition to online gaming we would at very least be able to deposit like we could pre UIGEA, and possibly already have fully regulated online poker.

Am I really that stupid for saying the party of UIGEA is extremely unlikely to regulate online poker? Do you have any facts, other than your gut feeling that republicans are going back to the days of personal freedom?
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03-03-2011 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ZERO_77
ahh I see Cheers .. I know a lot of higher stake players are worried about it though & it will obviously filter down the levels if it all happens

Seany may seem a little bitter but a lot of DON players will just simply leave the site sooner rather than later .. all it takes is to lose Supernova status for a month or so & there's no real incentive for many to hang around

Many haven't even played since the announcement was made .
I played thousands of 104's and was my main game. But surely we have to just get on with it. Play the 50/50's or the 9 man. Just figure it out. All this player revolt is a little over the top. And I am not meaning you, just what u are referring to. It's not like the dons were a total cash cow at the higher levels anyway. The best players were making a dollar or a dollar and a half a game. Very similar to what the low limits guys are making. The 104 level just became a SNE vessel. Just gotta find a New one. IMO
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03-03-2011 , 04:04 AM
Sean, shut up already, christ.

As to the Political Comments. I don't think it really matters if the Congressional Majority is Democrat or Republican, it's about political leverage. The Democrats had a political motivation to attempt to pass an Online Poker Regulation of some kind to fill revenue gaps and budget shortfalls. On the 'public' side of this, they were motivated (in a simplistic breakdown) by a desire to fill these gaps and deal with an issue that was one (of many) reasons they got hit so hard in the last election cycle. It is UNSURPRISING that such a law didn't pass during the lameduck session.

HOWEVER: Republicans on the public image side have every reason to find new revenue streams to fill these same budget deficits and decreased tax revenues, but they have a more complicated time regulating Online Poker because of the it will ignite some of their (Christian Religious) Base against the party. The reality is, is that it just has to be presented right to the public, and some "political leverage" has to be applied to the Republican leaders to make it happen, and obviously PokerStars is going to do whatever it takes to get into the US Market as a regulated/licensed operator.

Granted, i see that in the current political environment that it is unlikely that such a Bill will be passed, without a dramatic lobbying efforting, anytime during the current cycle.

Moreover, it has occured to me that because of the Cheating Scandals involving DoNs, that double or nothings might have been one of those things that prevented Pokerstars from becoming regulated in the US because of potential stigma from that. I don't know, this is just a pure speculation. IF that were true, then this might be a long-term win for PokerStars if DoNs were actually one of the barriers to regulation because of the collusion that was going on.

People have to remember, that political change is driven often by money and/or public image. It will take considerable money and serious PR campaign in the US political circles to change attitudes about it.

If you think about why the UIGEA was actually enacted, it had more to do with Republicans needing to appear "tough on terrorism" and anything that had the "potential for money laundering" yadda yadda yadda, and Poker got, very sadly, grouped into this paradigm of increased security/regulation/government infringement. It is a sad victim in a PR campaign years ago.

But hey, what're you going to do?
Politics/Real Life is Rigged. Ha.
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03-03-2011 , 04:10 AM
Point of interest: Concerning the 15mo proposed blackout, how would people feel about such a long time period? Seems extreme. I can see allowing time for the money to be transferred out and for a new system to take affect, but over a year seems alittle ridicilious. 3 months seems like a reasonable amount of time to get things up-to-snuff and for all the money to be transferred back to players and back in under new regulation.
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03-03-2011 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The+Doctor
Point of interest: Concerning the 15mo proposed blackout, how would people feel about such a long time period? Seems extreme. I can see allowing time for the money to be transferred out and for a new system to take affect, but over a year seems alittle ridicilious. 3 months seems like a reasonable amount of time to get things up-to-snuff and for all the money to be transferred back to players and back in under new regulation.
From what I understand the 15 month blackout was not for admin purposes. It was to alow the new Internet poker companies entering the market to establish themselves and get some form of an equal footing in the market. As apposed to them fighting over scraps with the bigger companies still dominating the player pools. Then when stars and tilt re- enter, let the players choose for themselves.
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03-03-2011 , 06:52 AM
can someone please post PokerStars SteveD old 2p2 name. He had over 10k posts and many negative posts about PokerStars. Time this hypocrite is exposed.
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03-03-2011 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The+Doctor
Point of interest: Concerning the 15mo proposed blackout, how would people feel about such a long time period? Seems extreme. I can see allowing time for the money to be transferred out and for a new system to take affect, but over a year seems alittle ridicilious. 3 months seems like a reasonable amount of time to get things up-to-snuff and for all the money to be transferred back to players and back in under new regulation.
In my opinion, during the 15 month blackout or whatever time it ends up being, someone will step and be the NEW Stars or Tilt to American players. Stars and Tilt won't let American players play so they can get a license. But, I think there's too much money involved that we wouldn't have at least one place to play, if not a few.
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