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PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011 PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011

02-28-2011 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshfan
[ ] Believable

Why would you continue to play there if this was true?

How could you even still be a winning player?

Why haven't you made a thread about this and shown the evidence?
um...read what i wrote regarding this. i said, even with many suckouts i am consistently winning BUT would be winning much more if not for those results. Just cause i lose most flips does not mean i lose money overall. Unlike u and the other fish, i dont have to rely on big pots to flip so i can win online. I actually shy away from that since i can win over time. i have won close to 68k online in sngs (not inc rewards cash). would be a whole lot more though (like triple if my flips were normal.) I take it u are a losing player? and as for posting my results, no prob, ill get on it. don't be a doubter when they are in ur face on this forum. Unfortunately, the reason i kept playing knowing this was, DUH, they are the only site with traffic for my format. i kinda had to stay. why would i turn away from making money?
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02-28-2011 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
What was DON traffic like when they were first introduced compared to STT's? I'll bet DON's didn't get much traffic and STT's held steady until DON's got a good following. The same could happen with Fifty50's.

It comes off very childish to berate PokerStars for getting rid of the game you want to play saying immature things like they're going out of business and they are the worst and yadda yadda yadda when you'd be calling them the best thing since chocolate cake if they kept DON's. It's very transparent that you're lashing out because you're angry and don't know how to handle it like a mature adult.

PokerStars isn't going anywhere and there is nothing the US government can do to prevent them from getting a license if poker is legalized just like they can't prevent any of us from getting a driver's license if we meet all the qualifications. Some of you are just desperate or delusional or both.
eh, WRONG!!! don traffic was heavy since their inception in oct 08.
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02-28-2011 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven66
seanysean, where do u play now? I too gave up on PS, i see many times that big full houses beat small full house many times, and that is not reality. Its called Riverstars for a reason.
oh i know dude. funny thing too cause i used to bash people about believing it was rigged. BUT, AS I GOT BETTER AND BETTER WITH practice and started really making money online, i saw that my sampling was huge enough to be able to make this assumption. there are masses of posts online about this from 1mill hand plus players. google it.
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02-28-2011 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
What was DON traffic like when they were first introduced compared to STT's? I'll bet DON's didn't get much traffic and STT's held steady until DON's got a good following. The same could happen with Fifty50's.

It comes off very childish to berate PokerStars for getting rid of the game you want to play saying immature things like they're going out of business and they are the worst and yadda yadda yadda when you'd be calling them the best thing since chocolate cake if they kept DON's. It's very transparent that you're lashing out because you're angry and don't know how to handle it like a mature adult.

PokerStars isn't going anywhere and there is nothing the US government can do to prevent them from getting a license if poker is legalized just like they can't prevent any of us from getting a driver's license if we meet all the qualifications. Some of you are just desperate or delusional or both.
AHAHAAHAHA U R SO DUMB. this is from us congress bill proposal like the one they will eventually get passed....

Place a Tough New Ban on Online Gambling Generally
This bill makes it unambiguously illegal to offer Internet gambling services without a license issued under the Act. Licenses are available only for Internet poker. Upon passage, sites offering unlawful online gambling services would have to shut down within 30 days or be blacklisted from the licensing program forever. Operators that ignore the new online gambling ban will face severe civil penalties and stronger criminal penalties.
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02-28-2011 , 09:55 PM
i challenge someone to email pokerstars support about whether or not they plan on exiting the us market. after they reply, post their b.s. vague answer on here. the reply will say it all.
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02-28-2011 , 09:58 PM
LAST POST FOR REAL. don't even bother replying to me with ur crap cause prior to posting regarding don's i never wasted my time with forums as i was busy playing instead of talking about it and will return to not ever bothering with these now. BYE STARS. ill be looking forward to my final check via DHL courier. peace!!!!!! Just to be obnoxious, i am going to leave one penny in my account for u guys to divide up when u become unemployed by 2012 the latest. Cheers Steve.
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02-28-2011 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
um...read what i wrote regarding this. i said, even with many suckouts i am consistently winning BUT would be winning much more if not for those results. Just cause i lose most flips does not mean i lose money overall. Unlike u and the other fish, i dont have to rely on big pots to flip so i can win online. I actually shy away from that since i can win over time. i have won close to 68k online in sngs (not inc rewards cash). would be a whole lot more though (like triple if my flips were normal.) I take it u are a losing player? and as for posting my results, no prob, ill get on it. don't be a doubter when they are in ur face on this forum. Unfortunately, the reason i kept playing knowing this was, DUH, they are the only site with traffic for my format. i kinda had to stay. why would i turn away from making money?
Let's see, I'm skilled enough to beat a rigged game full of colluders, and I've got proof that a multi-billion dollar poker site is rigged. How do I maximize my profit?

[ ] Apply my mad poker skill to an un-rigged game/format and crush the best players
[ ] Sell my proof that Stars is rigged to their competitors
[x] Grind small stakes DoNs
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02-28-2011 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tappy Tibbons
Let's see, I'm skilled enough to beat a rigged game full of colluders, and I've got proof that a multi-billion dollar poker site is rigged. How do I maximize my profit?

[ ] Apply my mad poker skill to an un-rigged game/format and crush the best players
[ ] Sell my proof that Stars is rigged to their competitors
[x] Grind small stakes DoNs
u consider my stakes small? lmao, small is 5 and 10. u are obv a losing player cause u assume everyone else is.

lol, "full of colluders" ahahahahaah. w/e dude, yea, they are all at all times always filled with colluders AND noboduy consistently beats don's. their are NO regualr winners. go back under ur rock!!!
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02-28-2011 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tappy Tibbons
Let's see, I'm skilled enough to beat a rigged game full of colluders, and I've got proof that a multi-billion dollar poker site is rigged. How do I maximize my profit?

[ ] Apply my mad poker skill to an un-rigged game/format and crush the best players
[ ] Sell my proof that Stars is rigged to their competitors
[x] Grind small stakes DoNs
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02-28-2011 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshfan
im sorry if 20's50's and sometimes playing 100s is too low for u but they didnt have higher. sorry. i guess u play 5000 hu. have fun on ur loser forums in the future. check my signup date...i dont waste my time here. i've been playing online since '03 and the days of pokerroom.com and NEVER posted in a forum till this don thing started. if u guys were winners (most of u aren't) time would not be spent on here. I took the entire month pretty much off to figure out my next move but once i start playing again next month i can promise u i wont be on forums. U GUYS STILL WILL CAUSE U CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO WIN ON THE NET. most winning players don't spend time on these sites like u guys do (lemme guess...most of u guys prolly also rely on poker books too,...right? i bet u do!). keep learning. maybe one day ull understand the game enough to NOT be consistent donators hoping to clear ur pending $120 reload bonus' lolololol!!!!!!!!!!! ya idiots!!!!

Last edited by seanysean; 02-28-2011 at 10:16 PM.
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02-28-2011 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
u consider my stakes small? lmao, small is 5 and 10. u are obv a losing player cause u assume everyone else is.
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Originally Posted by seanysean
I have played on Pokerstars for almost three years (almost every day during those three years) with the past two years being devoted mostly to double or nothing sit and goes. I must say, I am extremely upset over what you guys are doing with the double or nothings. I spent many hours at low stakes playing and studying the structure and have become a consistent winner (although at low stakes) and planned on taking my skill to the next level by multi-tabling the non-turbo don's starting later this month when i had the time to start. I purposely left $2700 in my account so that I may have 125 buy-ins for the 20 + 1.60 don's. I am a regular 2+2 poster and am very familiar with the chinese collusion ring but that was over a year ago and frankly, i'd rather have the possibility of collusion present then to not have don's at all. Although Don's are sensitive to collusion, both ring games and other forms of sng's can also be manipulated. When you play online, you put your faith in the security team and your fellow players. I always loved pokerstars in the past, but i have to say, this decision is herrendous.
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Originally Posted by seanysean
LAST POST FOR REAL. don't even bother replying to me with ur crap cause prior to posting regarding don's i never wasted my time with forums as i was busy playing instead of talking about it and will return to not ever bothering with these now. BYE STARS.
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02-28-2011 , 10:29 PM
50/50s will fail because guys who try to 20 table them will win 12 and lose 8 and lose $. will not take long to fig that one out.
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02-28-2011 , 10:57 PM
So is pokerstars going to be banned in the US?

You know the US is great in some respects but your government is sure anal retentive when it comes to online poker. Here in BC Canada our government is just opened their own site Playnow.com.

The religious freaks have way too much influence in the US.
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02-28-2011 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
LAST POST FOR REAL. don't even bother replying to me with ur crap cause prior to posting regarding don's i never wasted my time with forums as i was busy playing instead of talking about it and will return to not ever bothering with these now. BYE STARS. ill be looking forward to my final check via DHL courier. peace!!!!!! Just to be obnoxious, i am going to leave one penny in my account for u guys to divide up when u become unemployed by 2012 the latest. Cheers Steve.
o rly?

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Originally Posted by seanysean
u consider my stakes small? lmao, small is 5 and 10. u are obv a losing player cause u assume everyone else is.

lol, "full of colluders" ahahahahaah. w/e dude, yea, they are all at all times always filled with colluders AND noboduy consistently beats don's. their are NO regualr winners. go back under ur rock!!!
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Originally Posted by seanysean
im sorry if 20's50's and sometimes playing 100s is too low for u but they didnt have higher. sorry. i guess u play 5000 hu. have fun on ur loser forums in the future. check my signup date...i dont waste my time here. i've been playing online since '03 and the days of pokerroom.com and NEVER posted in a forum till this don thing started. if u guys were winners (most of u aren't) time would not be spent on here. I took the entire month pretty much off to figure out my next move but once i start playing again next month i can promise u i wont be on forums. U GUYS STILL WILL CAUSE U CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO WIN ON THE NET. most winning players don't spend time on these sites like u guys do (lemme guess...most of u guys prolly also rely on poker books too,...right? i bet u do!). keep learning. maybe one day ull understand the game enough to NOT be consistent donators hoping to clear ur pending $120 reload bonus' lolololol!!!!!!!!!!! ya idiots!!!!
Fail

Last edited by TeamTrousers; 02-28-2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason: less than two hours tho
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02-28-2011 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
would like to add one more thing from my data. I played approximtely 1.1 million hands in involving coin flip scenerios (50/50, 48/52 etc). When calculated in total, my percentage in 50/50 spots (give or take a few percent), is about 81/19. Meaning i win 19 percent of the times im supposed to win 50 AND lose 81 percent of the time im supposed to only lose 50. explain that...keep in mind, 1.1 mill flips (big enough of a sample). in a random brick and mortor game those results could not possibly be that skewed and it shouldn't online either. it would be acceptable for them to be off by 5 percent but not THAT much. If u flip a coin 1.1 mill times, u would not have heads 830,000 times and tails 270,000. impossible.
As far as made up stories go... Then at least try and make up values that have some possible level of plausibility

Either you have definitive proof of riggedness or you just run baaaaaaaaaaaaaad (to the tune of 500+ standard deviations ).

Juk
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02-28-2011 , 11:32 PM
seanysean, two questions:

1) Rupert Pumpkin?

2) Will you be holding a candlelit vigil?

Juk
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02-28-2011 , 11:36 PM
1.5 hours left!

I would love to see stats on seanysean. If his poker playing skills are as good as his punctuation and grammar skills, I can't imagine him being very successful
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02-28-2011 , 11:42 PM
I just signed on and there was no announcement in the lobby (main or SNG) about DONs ending. I signed up for one and said in chat that they were about to end, and someone replied that he never heard that.

Why would Stars take down that announcement? It's bad enough that DONs are ending, now they will have to deal with a bunch of E-mails asking what happened to them.
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02-28-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I just signed on and there was no announcement in the lobby (main or SNG) about DONs ending. I signed up for one and said in chat that they were about to end, and someone replied that he never heard that.

Why would Stars take down that announcement? It's bad enough that DONs are ending, now they will have to deal with a bunch of E-mails asking what happened to them.
The announcement has been there for weeks, and they've apparently taken it down only like an hour before they had to take it down (or change it), i can't really see how you can complain...
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03-01-2011 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshfan
The announcement has been there for weeks, and they've apparently taken it down only like an hour before they had to take it down (or change it), i can't really see how you can complain...
I knew it was coming, but not everyone reads poker forums, and not everyone plays regularly. There will be plenty of players who haven't signed on for a few days (or longer) and will wonder why the games aren't there any more. PokerStars is only hurting themselves by having to deal with all the inquiries from players who will have no idea what happened.

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03-01-2011 , 12:06 AM
black dress today folks? are you all crying? have you all found another way to break even at poker and be VPP Pros?
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03-01-2011 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by steelerian
black dress today folks? are you all crying? have you all found another way to break even at poker and be VPP Pros?
DONs are not my main game, but I like to play them when I don't have time for an MTT and/or when I want to add a few extra tables. So it's not the end of the world for me.

Having said that, I'm a greedy American capitalist, and if I thought I could make more money playing 100 tables of DONs than playing MTTs, then I would do that. In fact, I'll roll around in a pile of manure for your entertainment, if the price is right.

I just don't see the point of mocking someone who is making the rational choice to play the game that is most profitable for him.

As far as the business decision from the point of view of PokerStars, I don't get it at all. They say it's not because of cheating, and they acknowledge that's it a popular game--so why dump DONs? Again, being the good capitalist that I am, I believe that they should be able to make any legal business decision that they want. And we, the customers, can hate it if we want, and many of us do. There is no doubt in my mind that this is going to cost PokerStars some business.

Many of the DON specialists will adapt, but that doesn't necessarily mean that PokerStars won't take a hit. Some players will leave the site. Others will switch to 9-man SNGs, but probably play fewer tables, meaning less rake for PokerStars.

Others will leave the site, or switch to MTTs, both of which mean less rake (and less profit) for PokerStars.

I'm no business expert, but I have a minor in economics. And as far as I can see, in this case both the customers and the business come out losers.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 03-01-2011 at 12:36 AM. Reason: grammar, changed "90" to "9"
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03-01-2011 , 12:43 AM
lol at fifty50s. nothing more than putting your money through a rake machine
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03-01-2011 , 01:09 AM
goodbye, don.

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03-01-2011 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by meumi
goodbye, don.

BUT SO MANY PEOPLE WANT THEM TO STICK AROUND!!!!! THERE IS AN OUTCRY AROUND THE WORLD FOR THEM TO BE KEPT!!!!! DON'T YOU KNOW?!?!?!?!
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