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04-05-2011 , 08:59 AM
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To the person who said that based on my post I could never win playing sit n gos, I once cashed in 13 Omaha 9-man sit n gos in a row, and they weren't all 3rds. Even won a few. That's in a row. Have you ever done that?
Jesus u must be good.

Spoiler:
You are braindead and have no clue about SNGs
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04-05-2011 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Boonshine
To the person who said that based on my post I could never win playing sit n gos, I once cashed in 13 Omaha 9-man sit n gos in a row, and they weren't all 3rds. Even won a few. That's in a row. Have you ever done that?
I once won £10 on the lotto! I'm good at lotto obviously.

Juk
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04-05-2011 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Boonshine
To the person who said that based on my post I could never win playing sit n gos, I once cashed in 13 Omaha 9-man sit n gos in a row, and they weren't all 3rds. Even won a few. That's in a row. Have you ever done that?
Get your fire suit out!
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04-05-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Boonshine
To the person who said that based on my post I could never win playing sit n gos, I once cashed in 13 Omaha 9-man sit n gos in a row, and they weren't all 3rds. Even won a few. That's in a row. Have you ever done that?

The statement alluding to the fact that people who just want to survive and make the money are weak just shows how little they know about tournament formats. The whole point of a sit n go is just to survive. The structure implies that you should correctly adopt survival tactics in certain situations. That's not weak or stupid, it's just making the higher EV play.

Those of you who love playing these 50-50's don't see that you're being short changed. You build up that stack, but at the end, half of the money is going into the survival pool. If you're just trying to survive, then half your reward is distributed based on chip stacks. You're getting shortchanged either way.

I don't really care if people play 50-50's, all I know is that I'm not.
Why are people getting "short changed" just because it's a 60/10/10/10/10 payout structure instead of 20/20/20/20/20 or 50/30/20 ?
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04-05-2011 , 11:24 AM
Also like to say i've cashed 19 5050s in a row, although my overall ITM is around 53%
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04-05-2011 , 12:29 PM
Well I'm done with fifty50s. To many regs and to much rake. Time to play cash and make infinitely more money.
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04-05-2011 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
I once won £10 on the lotto! I'm good at lotto obviously.

Juk
sick life
mbsfntby
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04-05-2011 , 03:55 PM
Joshfan asked:
Why are people getting "short changed" just because it's a 60/10/10/10/10 payout structure instead of 20/20/20/20/20 or 50/30/20 ?

Hi Josh. Since you took the time to ask me an intelligent question, I'll answer you. In a way, you kind of answered your own question. If you compare 60/10/10/10/10 to 20/20/20/20/20, four of the people get only half as much money. I watched a 50-50 play out the other day, and when it was over, three of the players got $1.00 and a few extra cents. Not to mention the time they spent.

t_roy wrote:
Well I'm done with fifty50s. To many regs and to much rake. Time to play cash and make infinitely more money.

That's my point exactly. If you're going to get paid based on your chip stack, you might as well get paid for all your chips instead of half. If you sat down at a cash game and tripled your stack, then when you got up you had to give half of the money back, you'd be stinkin pissed, I know I would.

NiSash1337 stupidly typed:
Jesus u must be good.

Spoiler:
You are braindead and have no clue about SNGs

The average player in a 9-man sit n go will make the money 1 in 3 times. If you take 3 to the 13th power you get what? 1,594,323 that's the average number of tries it would take for an average player to make the money 13 times in a row. If you factor in a few 2nds and 3rds then you're looking at 50 or 100 million. I've only played 1300 some games, so I think that means I know a little something about what I'm talking about. You'll notice that NiSash didn't come back with his own sit n go cashing streak. Hey NiSash, you gotta get two in a row before you can officially call it a streak.
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04-05-2011 , 03:58 PM
I meant if you factor in a few 2nds and 1sts...
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04-05-2011 , 04:38 PM
To those wondering about DoNs on other sites, now is a good time to check out the Merge Network. RPM Poker (on Merge) is running a promo in April where every Sunday, if you play 25 DoNs at one buy-in they will give you one buy-in back. Play 25 $20s and 25 $30s and get $50, etc.

In addition to that promo, they have tons of other promos and also a base rakeback rate of 35%, so it isn't difficult at all to get in the 45-50% rakeback range and maybe even up to SNE level rakeback if you play a ton.
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04-05-2011 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Boonshine
The average player in a 9-man sit n go will make the money 1 in 3 times.
Ok.

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If you take 3 to the 13th power you get what? 1,594,323 that's the average number of tries it would take for an average player to make the money 13 times in a row.
The opponent skill level is not constant in all SNGs.

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If you factor in a few 2nds and 3rds then you're looking at 50 or 100 million.
???

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I've only played 1300 some games, so I think that means I know a little something about what I'm talking about.
If you are still playing SNGs, then in about a year you'll come back to this post and repeatedly face-palm: I guarantee it.

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You'll notice that NiSash didn't come back with his own sit n go cashing streak. Hey NiSash, you gotta get two in a row before you can officially call it a streak.
Perhaps he plays poker to make money and doesn't give a crap about this?

Juk
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04-05-2011 , 10:39 PM
Jukofyork can't you type anything besides "ok" and question marks? And what the heck does face-palm mean?
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04-06-2011 , 01:59 AM
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04-06-2011 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Boonshine
Jukofyork can't you type anything besides "ok" and question marks? And what the heck does face-palm mean?
A face palm is that move you make when you realize that you are essentially being a dumb-ass. It is the open palm smack to the forehead. Look in the mirror and see the red spot?
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04-06-2011 , 05:03 PM
Ok, whatever. However my heads up sit n go winning streaks would imply that I'm a very lucky dumbass. You know what I really don't care if some people don't realize that certain tournament structures can be exploited.

It's like playing against two different opponents. One is a skilled, solid player, one is a loose passive fish. You can exploit the bad player, and why the heck would you want to even play the skilled player if you always had a choice? Same thing with tournaments and sit n gos, why would you not want to play the more exploitable format?
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04-17-2011 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
ahaahahahahahah////if they lose cali they are basically gone. big population of players gone!!! guys they are done very very very very soon. I see a domino effect starting in the united states where each state will follow the lead of the other states. peace stars. ur outta here!!!! players, get ur money off that site. also, dont bother learning the 50's cause if stars isnt gone soon then the 50's will be axed anyway. AND BYE STARS COMMERICALS (THANK GOD CAUSE THEY ARE REAL BAD) Maybe Ceaser's entertainment will put dons on their soon-to-be licensed sites (so obvious that this regulation is coming). it's only a matter of when. The "if" part of it is over...this is gonna happen in the u.s. starting this spring. now I will finally know for sure that my cards really are random. niiiiice!!! I'm starting to fall in love with this regulation stuff.
you guys all made fun of me when i said stars would be history soon. please read what i wrote above. i wr0te this less than 6 weeks before they pulled out of the us for good. and yes, this is definitelty it for them. Ur a fool if u believe the crap they wrote about "suspending" real money games in the US> This is permanent, NOT a suspension. No chance they will be back in biz here. if u look at their history in other countries where the govt was cracking down...once they pull out they are out for good. (no matter how much biz they are gonna lose). And frankly, even though i hate them for the don crap, i have to agree with them on deciding that. they would be tards for trying to operate eith what is going on now. It would be like thumbing their noses at the ppl who are after them (fbi etc).
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04-17-2011 , 06:04 AM
So when is Stars reintroducing DONs

Id kinda think every player counts now
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04-17-2011 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by seanysean
you guys all made fun of me when i said stars would be history soon. please read what i wrote above. i wr0te this less than 6 weeks before they pulled out of the us for good. and yes, this is definitelty it for them. Ur a fool if u believe the crap they wrote about "suspending" real money games in the US> This is permanent, NOT a suspension. No chance they will be back in biz here. if u look at their history in other countries where the govt was cracking down...once they pull out they are out for good. (no matter how much biz they are gonna lose). And frankly, even though i hate them for the don crap, i have to agree with them on deciding that. they would be tards for trying to operate eith what is going on now. It would be like thumbing their noses at the ppl who are after them (fbi etc).
That's not why everyone made fun of you
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04-18-2011 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tappy Tibbons
That's not why everyone made fun of you
whatever dude, check out my predictions for pokerstars. i made a sick read. i was dead accurate. I was right about them exiting the market AND i do believe the site will be totally out of business by the end of the summer if not earlier. Go look at their lobbys, they have lost 50 percent of their volume. The remaining euro players are likely to leave for other sites where they won't have to worry about their money getting sucked up in this whole mess. Whatever, they were rigging action flops anyway (the same way were dishonest in the way they transferred funds through phony websites, they are also being dishonest with their players. After seeing the level they went to (if this all turns out to be true) to conceal transactions from uigea prosecution, i have no doubt they were capable of keeping an even flow of money by keeping the lower skilled players on the site by givng them 90 percent of their flips etc. I play many tables at one time YET even with the high v9olume of hands i was playing on stars,,,,there still is no justification for the amount of times in one hour that i would see aces v kings v queens. The odds of that are very small yet it used to happen (still odes) on a predictible basis. i got so good at spoting it that i have folded kings and queens preflop several times to find out i was crushed by the better pair. the site is done. i hate what the doj has done but this will bring about the beginning of regualtion. this was inevitable. If stars didnt nickel and dime by trying to save money using banks and payment processors vs. what cake and carbon do (ewallets) then they wouldnt be in this mess.
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04-18-2011 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MegaFossil
To those wondering about DoNs on other sites, now is a good time to check out the Merge Network. RPM Poker (on Merge) is running a promo in April where every Sunday, if you play 25 DoNs at one buy-in they will give you one buy-in back. Play 25 $20s and 25 $30s and get $50, etc.

In addition to that promo, they have tons of other promos and also a base rakeback rate of 35%, so it isn't difficult at all to get in the 45-50% rakeback range and maybe even up to SNE level rakeback if you play a ton.
Mega...what deoposit method did u find successful for carbon? (im trying to get my money on there but an unsure of the best option)
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04-18-2011 , 03:21 AM
i wrote this 6 weeks ago in one of my don posts "guys they are done very very very very soon".
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04-18-2011 , 03:53 AM
Yes, maybe Stars will bring back the DONs now? Getting rid of the DONs was bad karma. It also cause me to become a losing player again.
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05-17-2011 , 11:20 PM
I'd ask him a question about this:

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve
PokerStars is currently evaluating all Sit & Go offerings, including rake. The stakes offered and rake for Fifty50s are in line with the changes planned for all Sit & Go Tournaments on PokerStars in the coming months.

If players compare Fifty50 rake on PokerStars to the industry standard for similar Sit & Go tournaments, they will find that the comparison isn’t close; the PokerStars’ rake is much lower.

Fifty50s rake across the board is being implied here wouldn't you think?
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05-19-2011 , 02:32 PM
In light of recent collusion activities on Ongame I now believe Stars was right.

Not about all the other mess regarding SNGs, nor about fifties, but they were right about DONs.
I think they figured out they simply do not have the competent and plentiful enough staff to deal with the problem, so they gave up.

Now I think the rest of the sites still offering DONs and this includes its proud inventor Ongame, should do the same.

If they are unable to get rid of colluders, its time to let the format go.

Ongame regular SNG traffic has been severely eroding in off hours due to DONs running. Yet that is precisely when colluders come out in force. Infact they are the ones starting the games. Time to let them go, so the rest of the regs can start regular games and recreational will join just the same.
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05-19-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel inc.
Now I think the rest of the sites still offering DONs and this includes its proud inventor Ongame, should do the same.
Please tell Party this too!

Juk
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