Thanks stars you just castrated my main utility for building up a bankroll.
This! Will not encourage me to play your 50/50s they suck!
This!Will not encourage me to trick off my money playing cash games to reload 1 zillion times like all the other degenerate tools on this thread cheering your decision.

when?

In the coming months. Lol. That's as specific as support would get with me when I asked the same question.

Any info from DON grinders who have moved to other sites?

i so hoped for april 1st to get something finally ****ing done

I doubt they'd phrase it like that if they expected to take more than like 5 months on it. So, fwiw, I'd bet that you'll hear something by July.

Obv could be much sooner.

"There will be a followup announcement made once changes are final and ready to be implemented. I don't have a more specific time estimate than the previously provided 'coming months'. Its understood that you are anxious or even excited to see the changes, but there is still a bit more work to be
done before they can be rolled out.

Cheers,
SteveD
PokerStars VIP Team"

Read into that however long you think it means they'll take. Of course, the sooner the better.

sigh hoped for april...

someone post a baby for me

Either don't play the DON's or adapt to the structure. I've made a lot more profit on the new format that I have on the traditional DON's, because more often than not, I'm in 2nd or 3rd place.

In my last 75 DON's at $20, I have "survived" 62 times, with an average win of $43.27. It is a hugely profitable game for my style of play.

The DoN's at the other site are so soft

Would "the other site" be that network that starts with the letter M? (since we're being so cryptic)

I try Merge and Party
Over 11$ they offer only speed DoN's(5min.):no traffic at all for 31+2$ and good traffic 52+3$ and the blind structure suckz

Overall i prefer Merge with theirs FR & SH DoN's with 7 min blind level & better Blind structure and since i can't be lock to a site to play each month, i love their daily rakeback and they have nice promo for cash and sng players.


But lately i don't play too much DoN's learning SnG HU wow i why never try this before
Before i forget no PTR tracking on Merge. oh yeah

With the Fifty/Fifty you've got virtually no incentive to survive, because surviving until the money basically gets you your buy-in back. Who wants to sit there for 45 minutes to win 5 cents? In the Double or Nothing making the money would get you double your buy-in minus the rake.

In a 50-50, you'd have to have 11,600 chips at the end to make the same amount of money you would get by winning a normal 9-man sit n go. That's $4.50. So you have to turn 1500 into 11600 against a bunch of nits who are just sitting there trying to make the money? Give me a break.

You've got no incentive to survive, and no incentive to build your stack. One point of building a stack is to use it later in the tournament, to see flops, make plays, wait out opponents, well forget that in a 50-50. Not to mention the difficulty of building a stack in that scenario. If you're trying to build a stack, you'd be better off playing a real tournament.

I got a better idea. Bring back the double or nothings, but make them bigger. Like 100 or 1000 people. This would increase the tournament strategy aspect, as opposed to if there were only 10 people. Make a triple or nothing, or quadruple or nothing. Have 500 people, and the top 100 get 5x the buy-in. The potential variety is endless. Wouldn't that cut down on collusion or eliminate it? Don't award any extra money for having any extra chips. Keep those two ideas separate. They work against eachother.

So... does PokerStars enjoy the drop in business because they've discontinued these?

i like the fitfty50 , all you gotta do is double up , and sit their lookin all pretty ha, easy money while the peons kill themselves off

The goal isn't to make the same money you would in a normal 9 man SNG. The goal is to make a profit over time. Since in most "traditional" 50/50 tourneys, when I finished in the money, I'd finish in the top 1-3 spots, having the top 1-3 slots usually pay better than 50/50 in the revised format, makes it more profitable for me now. And n the rare occasion you do amass a huge amount of chips, you will win 3X the buy-in. You couldn't do that in a traditional 50/50.

The format isn't for everyone, but it certainly does suit a certain style of play over another one. You aren't looking to survive, but you are looking for building a chip stack, and that can be done and there is certainly an incentive to do so.

Have to say that I like the new format. Creates more action than the DONs did. In the old ones no one played until it became a shove fest as blinds got up there. In the new 50/50 there is much more action and people doing stupid stuff early.

Think that its mainly due to chips now being worth something. No longer does 1 chip and 4X starting chips get the same result. Overall very happy with the change.

If you like accumulating chips, wouldn't you rather get the full 100% value that you deserve? Accumulating chips and surviving are both good strategies, however make it all survival or all chip accumulation.

why

Because he wants to fold into the money as near as damnit and can't play poker?

Pretty much everything that was said here is completely stupid. I am now dumber for having read it.

so has anyone found a site with double or nothings and also take echecks in my state(ohio)?

agreed, i honestly doubt somebody who posts that is going to beat any form of sng.

LOL!! The incentive to survive = Not losing a ****load of money. The incentive to build your stack= making some money. The incentive to write really long posts about nothing = ??? wtf is a 500 man DON gonna change? how is this different from a regular DON besides the fact that it will stay 9 handed the whole time, making players switch tables constantly and adding even less skill to the mix? Oh and the fact that they will take forever to fill up?

50 50s are awesome IMO. People that write things like this illustrate their profitability- You'll cash every so often because two even stacked players shove AJ and get called by 22 while you're sitting with 400 chips, since they are unhappy with their measly 5 dollar profit.

To the person who said that based on my post I could never win playing sit n gos, I once cashed in 13 Omaha 9-man sit n gos in a row, and they weren't all 3rds. Even won a few. That's in a row. Have you ever done that?

The statement alluding to the fact that people who just want to survive and make the money are weak just shows how little they know about tournament formats. The whole point of a sit n go is just to survive. The structure implies that you should correctly adopt survival tactics in certain situations. That's not weak or stupid, it's just making the higher EV play.

Those of you who love playing these 50-50's don't see that you're being short changed. You build up that stack, but at the end, half of the money is going into the survival pool. If you're just trying to survive, then half your reward is distributed based on chip stacks. You're getting shortchanged either way.

I don't really care if people play 50-50's, all I know is that I'm not.