looks like ziig won something nice

Yeah Howard's range was KK+

PA was chopping or losing and he pounded away like he had the nuts. I thought it was pretty bad unless he made Lederer fold which would've been funny (but a totally understandable fold although unconventional, considering the read HL should expect PA to have made).

who said he wasnt?

Oh yeah Props are so incredibly annoying. Do these guys actually get something out of hoping for a red flop or a black flop? Seems like ******ed stuff I would expect slot machine players to do.

Also, the 7-2 game is stupid, and is really bad for the lag players. Ivey or Dwan could pull some great bluff, but then someone will think "hmm, he could have 7-2, I call" and their bluff, which wasn't 7-2, will get called down. So I don't know why Dwan wants it. Also, for a tight player, the 7-2 makes the game easier. You no longer have to choose spots to bluff. Just bluff with 7-2, and take advantage of the extra 7-2 equity and all your extra fold equity from never otherwise bluffing.

Also, how dumb is Howard to not know how the 7-2 game works? Is that possible or is he just levelling?

the intro gets cornier and cornier everytime i watch it

that's ******ed

god i hate howard lederer.

wtf took him so long? patrick never has a 9 there, so he only had to be worried about one single hand. if patrick really has KK there, so be it. he will have to go broke no matter what.

i bet patrick was laughing really hard on the inside when howard flipped his cards.

Best line was Ziggy:

"One time I had AK vs AK"

"I just don't pay no attention to it" could be a new 2+2 phrase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phfbm...D13477F8A37726

up on tube in hq if anyone cares,

They should have put Greenstein instead of Howard imo... too nitty

+1

i never noticed tweeden's lisp either; now i cant ignore it for the life of me. not that it would matter one bit in her case.

did anybody else notice when phil seemed to be saying that he had "half of durr"? it seemed like he quickly stated that he had staked dwan for half of the buy in, but it was pretty much ignored.....just me?

i kinda like he props, but im surprised how much people still go on about them while the others at the table are involved in serious decisions during a hand

anyone who can't figure out why howard tanked in the AA vs AA hand must have no clue what was happening. recall that PF went limp/raise/call/limper 3bets/raiser 4bets/call, UTG vs. UTG+1. how many times in your life have you ever seen that preflop action between pros on TV or otherwise. sure they're capable of mixing it up but i think it was pretty damn obvious to every single person at the table that both of them had very big hands preflop. it probably would have been obvious to leann

the only reason PA played his hand the way he did postflop was because he could still beat AK (and even then it was ridiculously thin and arguably quite bad since howard is imo significantly more likely to have KK than AK the way the flop played out)

i wouldn't be surprised if howard's hand is good there close to 0% of the time so you could def argue that he actually should have folded the turn (or just folded the flop to PA's checkraise? not sure) and was extremely fortunate to be up against the other AA. i can't blame him for calling but anyone who's loling at him and proclaiming it to be a snapcall is exposing themselves as pretty clueless

lol yes

yup, fDallas

The 7-2 game also encourages lighter calldowns, which also helps tight players.

+1billion

I agree. Based on the preflop action, I'm sick when I see the "K" on the flop. From either player's perspective. Howard's reraise of the limp-reraise pretty much can't be weaker than KK+ at least not often.

I kind of think Antonius played both his AA and his AT quite bad. Very unprofitably.

And, just as on HSP, Sahamies looks like he has no idea how to play NLHE.

Seems to me only Dwan and Lederer have their heads in the game.

Howard's piano fingers while he thinks is tilting.

#2 he is probably the weakest NL Holdem player on this table thats for sure.

no insult intended to anyone else, but blanko is way the best poster in the TV forum. it's not even close.

No insult to Blanco but that doesn't mean much.

not sure why Lederer didn't just check behind on the K99 flop instead of betting like 18k in to 60k.