Howard folding the turn in the AA vs AA hand would have been truly epic, if for nothing else than to watch the total meltdown of the 2+2 server in the minutes following.

note that i said way the best

can anyone explain tom dwans re raise of ilhari with a king flush draw? when ziigmund had the jack high flush draw? i mean what that some great read that he has the best flush draw? because ziigmund could have had the ace flush draw.. or he could jsu call with top pair or whatever

equity + fold equity + metagame + lagtard.

They play the same way in the micro stakes.

Agreed the AK vs. AK quote needs more love

This.

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Yeah, he's really flatting Howard's 4-bet with K9 or 99 there after trying a squeeze play by limp-raising. The way the hand played out, Howard had PA on either AK or KK (or a small chance he also has AA).

this. also when he said "Now its a coinflip" after he picked up a gutshot with his j7dd vs durrrs k2dd.

Ziigmund seems like a funny guy just wish he would talk more :P

it's obv important for howard to appear to play "perfect poker" and so the aces on the turn call prob. wasn't a hollywood (kinda weird to do that there anyway) it was because he wasn't sure how much of a % pa having kk/9x is

why does howard push the image he's a professor of poker

Because the kinds of people who want that image tend to be kinds of people who push that kind of image relentlessly.

I liked last nites ep better but this was a solid episode. Gus for lederer anyone?

If Gus was in for Lederer, I bet the Dangs, Galfond, South, Hastings would be sitting in the background starting a wait list...

Great week and definitely +1 on the Ziigy AK vs. AK once.

I'm really wondering if Ziig pay all of his taxes though lol.

Let's say he made 10-15 million in the last 2,3 years playing PLO online and live, after a 50% tax rate plus a few cars and a home, how the hell can he afford to play a few million dollar pots at Bobby's Room lol.

lol at everyone who's talking about the PA hand and going "PA is never raising with a 9!!!"

it's true, he's not. but howard doesn't know that, he's ******ed. did you see how long it took him to call with his AA on the turn? That wasn't because he was afraid of trip kings... Howard's the kind of guy where if KK was literally the only hand PA could have then he'd just go "if you got me, you got me" and call. He was literally considering a fold because there were 2 nines out there and he thought patrik might have a third.

this is a great week..

poker tv shows: learn from this..

and well done to nbc for having it streaming on their site as usual a few hours after it is broadcast.. so handy for non americans

for christ's sake PA called a 4bet out of position from the least creative player at the table after he himself limp-reraised, all of which took place in EP. hint: his range for doing this is really, really, really freakin' narrow. he practically doesn't have a 9 in his range. you really think howard lederer was not aware of this? i mean the guy isn't amazing but he sort of has a clue

the paired 9 on the board was almost completely irrelevant and everyone knew it. howard is pretty much worried about KK and rightfully so since AA/KK -- maaaybe AK but doubtful -- are the only hands PA can have that make any sense (and KK makes quite a bit more sense than the other 2 aces)

he didn't tank because of the 9s, he tanked because of the K, period

I swear that Dwan plays like he can see the hole cards of the other guy. It seems like he almost never makes a bad move. He bets or calls when he's ahead or has a decent chance to draw out. He always seems to get away from trap hands. And he always knows just when and how much to thin value bet. It's uncanny.

Lederer probably thought Antonius had to have KK. He said "thank god" when he saw the AA.

Antonius should've been scared of Lederer's KK but it seems Antonius isn't familiar with nitty poker. Because his flop c-raise, and his turn bet, are never, ever getting called by worse.

where is sam farha ?

Given Howard's perceived range of PA, was a fold more in order? I don't recall stack sizes so maybe not so much, however if KK, AA are literally the only hands PA likely has, then he's essentially calling to chop.

Just wanted to add fuel to the fire, lol

This is what separates the truly great players from the really good players: poker instincts. It's not something people like to talk about a lot because it's non-quantifiable and you can't teach it in a book but it's the real x-factor in determining a great player.

The reason why every pro player says Ivey's the best is because he's got poker instincts up the wazoo.

PA's checkraise, and turn bets, were both reasonable times for Howard to fold. I suspect if the game wasn't on TV, and if Howard hadn't already lost a stack in the session, that he might've found the fold.

He really couldn't beat anything but a bluff. If Antonius played AK like that thinking it's good then he's clueless.

I also think Antonius smooth calling the 4bet is terrible. One of the worst plays I've ever seen from a non-fish. If he limp-reraises and Howard still 4bets him, wtf is Howard's range? KK+, with occaisonally AK and QQ? I doubt AK and QQ are even in Howard's range here. So PA should be 5betting to get it in right now against Howard's KK, not giving Howard a chance to get away.

Unless PA was concerned that Howard would fold KK to the 5bet. But then PA playing his hand the way he did post-flop didn't make much sense either.

i bet a lot of these players dont pay taxes