This was an old SRP tradition

The Mike dentale podcast in unwatchable. Well done

Joey, you should just leave. I bet he talks for hours anyways. But yeah he's a **** guest. I had no idea who this guy was before this pod and he's a piece of garbage. I say that as someone who hates SJWs and I don't mind the use of the f word as an insult.

Mike literally explained that it's ok for black people to call each other "******" by saying he calls other Italians expletives about their heritage. That just opens up all kinds of cans of worms. If you don't like people who aren't your type saying it, you probably shouldn't say it to each other as a term of endearment (or as an insult as Mike did). Such a dumb individual.

Joey: "Why do you think people don't like then, Mike?"
Mike: "From people that don't know me, I'm a very, you know, very - how do I put it?"
Joey: "Loud?"

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based on the people who are riled up by "social justice warriors" as well as the literal meaning of the term, i can only assume its a great compliment to be called one.

Aside from him blowing his own trumpet and rambling on and on about this and that, thought he was a likeable dude.


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yeh boi

more Dentale

you completely missed the point.

Well explain it. He's saying that he'd call another Italian some slang word that they don't appreciate (missed the word and don't care that much to go back or learn it). No different than black people calling each other ******s and garbage like that. So races and nationalities can call each other bad slangs but when another race/nationality calls them that, they actually pull the race/nationality card? It's ******ed.

That would work, but people usually go for easy targets - someone whose irrational in one direction complains about people who are irrational in the other direction to avoid addressing the option of just being balanced and rational.

Like the pod, Dentale is just from a different time and different area then 99% of people in the poker community. I disagreed with a lot of what he said and how he was saying it, but the guy was interesting and "solid" as he said lmao. I especially liked the part when he was talking about "If we are friends and you're getting your ass kicked, we are getting our ass kicked together".

what about NVGtards using the word ******ed?

it's true. moderation isn't interesting and doesn't get clicks - a broken incentive structure for sure.

The Podcast with Mike Dentale is the best one I've seen, and this is high praise as there are many brilliant other ones that Joey has done. Why was it so great?, because it was so REAL. I know many viewers want only to hear stories of poker degeneracy, name dropping exclusives in poker stories and general wild, wacky and entertaining stuff, and so do I. But this podcast was pure reality and therefore a podcast and interview of the highest order.

It may indeed have been one of the most candid and honest interviews ever given by anyone in the history of interviews. I give Mike Dentale respect for that, "100%", and also big props and praise to Joey as ever for his great interviewing and presentation of the podcast.

This interview showed once again, that the vast majority of the dumb clique of pro poker players and grinders sided with the person who they *knew* was in the right, Cate Hall, by applying their one dimensional lacking of much life experience superiority complex barely above average minds to the situation.

Mike Dentale gets in his car, gives an articulate and open account of everything while driving from Albany to New York or something using one hand!, and guess what, yes he's a tough guy, but as he put it he is also a stand up guy (meaning a fair person of good principles) and this did come through to the viewer that he is a decent person with good values, and as far as I am concerned, every intellectual point he put forward, including about how ridiculous it is that players such as Cate Hall going on and on and on, on social media, ramming their political points down people's throats, people who have followed her for her poker exploits, was correct.

He also showed some humility, apologised for some of his verbal and occasional physical behaviour, but also logically explained the origins of it, and showed a conciliatory side of his character too by explaining that he has no bad feelings against Cate Hall, but that the Twitter feud was born out of his default personality of being someone who always stands up for himself and doesn't back down.

We also learned in the podcast that he was a stock trader. Again a lot of the poker clique I am sure thought he was a trench digger, because they are so one dimensional and dismissive of so much that is around them that doesn't match up to their own deluded thoughts about how wonderful and superior they are.

Plus he spoke the truth about most players not being winners, even grinders, or just going up and down and never really getting anywhere financially through poker.

Last point I'll make, which I've made before, is that someone's poker persona in live poker is usually not their IRL personality or being, it is linked and often exaggerated, but it is not the same.

Yeah I liked the podcast and I think Mike came off as a stand up guy. I even believed him about the part about folding his big blind in the satellite and not explicitly colluding.

Thank you Joey!!!

I have nothing against Dentale, I enjoyed the podcast. But lol if anything thinks he didnt collude in that satty, I mean w/e people soft play in sattys all the time its just the way it is (not that its okay, or should be the way it is), but there is 0% chance he didn't intentionally collude.

Okay, let's just say that you (not you but anyone) has an unwritten agreement that in any live tournament from now until eternity that if you are ever on the same table as each other, be it a satellite or not, that you will soft play each other as a means of mutual protection of your tournament life.

So a one time unwritten, "from now on" agreement.

Would this be wrong?

It is maybe not a clear cut yes or no but it is what loads of players are doing and especially when they have swapped equity.

I think doing this is a different thing to out and out collusion.

On balance, although I think it is common place, I do think it is wrong.

The last time I swapped equity, the player came up to me the day before and started talking about soft playing and what we would do in certain situations. He was in no way asking to do signals sharing holdings info or anything like that but he was definitely asking me to agree to soft play for tournament preservation purposes. I point blank said "stop" I do not want to discuss this and that I would be playing normally against him.

Then this happened...... some months later I swapped with a totally different player in a huge live field. There were 40+ tables and we are on the same table straight away. He had briefly hinted about "you know what do" in a private Twitter message a week before the comp. Again I said well okay but that it not something I want to discuss so I left it at that.

Then in the comp, after a few hands, I had the nuts against him, I looked up at him knowing he would very likely call a big value bet, but then a little devil on my shoulder said "don't do it, don't do it", so I bet small.

The little devil wasn't telling me this because I had 10% in him, it was the memory of his message to me and how I thought it might affect our poker relationship going forwards if I'd value bet big.

Later on in the same level he played very fiercely against me, so I mean who can you even trust.

This is why this soft playing/not soft playing against friends or equity swapped players is a grey area.

P.S. Anyone about to complain about the length of my posts, DON'T, just mute me. Thank you.

Love Joey...Love the podcast but cannot find love for Mikey D. I am very surprised that he has received so much positive feedback ITT. He was literally unbearable to listen to. That is not to say that he is not a good dude...or right or wrong in the Cate Hall situation or any other situation he has found himself in. I found zero humility in the conversations just me...me...me! Then an "I am sorry if I offended you but f@#k you...But I am a good guy....F^*k you....I don't care what you think!" Which is a fine stance to have but it just seems so childish and comes off bad. Maybe it just really rubbed me the wrong way. FWIW, I think they are both embarrassing themselves. This did Mikes side no justice. I even felt he annoyed Joey.

My .02 from a nobody other than a faithful listener. 2 thumbs down (Not at all Joeys fault)

Happy Holidays!

I refuse to care about or find out the background behind a dispute between two random live players, both outside the top 1000 on the all time money list.

Gawd your awful posts are idiotic. And too long.

Mucking when you've already called an allin is not soft playing, it's blatant collusion and Mike admitted doing it on the podcast.

Not to forget he previously denied doing it, making him a liar yet you call him a standup guy.

My answer to your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs is here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...2/index24.html in post #595 but prepare yourself for the unbearable pain of reading a long post.

Just so I am clear what your insult means, for clarification:
idiotic= very stupid. stupid, silly, foolish, half-witted, witless, brainless, mindless, thoughtless, imprudent, incautious, irresponsible, injudicious, indiscreet, unwise, unintelligent, unreasonable;

TLDR.

Okay, you are being tongue in cheek I guess, but I was always going to reveal who I was on the Mikey_D thread. Yes the date of the reveal was accelerated by Mike himself saying in the podcast that it wasn't him.

(P.S. I donated the £82 direct to an individual homeless person in London last night, in relation to the charity donation I mentioned in the Mikey_D thread. I think publicising one's charity donations is self-serving b**l$**t, even if it is for a matched $175K or $175M, and it is not something I would usually do but I did stick to my word about the £82 and maybe it will help the person for a couple of days)

Having criticised Dan Smith, the $175K man, (which I have already directly done to him also on Twitter), that in Joey speak I am supposed to say, "bang, bang".

Furthermore, unlike many people I do not hide behind a screen name. On my Twitter account @sagedonkey you can see exactly who I am by clicking on my profile and tournament results link.
(I am not saying you are hiding behind a screen name, it's just that I don't and I do post a lot of hard hitting, contrarian maybe even controversial things about poker on Twitter and on 2plus2)

I Tweeted Mike Dentale with the link to the Mikey_D thread declaring myself as its creator, and he said he thought the thread was funny, thanked me for my comments on it and said we should catch up some time at a tournament. He also Tweeted a picture of his Silver Range Rover SUV + "Lol", to show that my guess that he drove a Black Cadillac Escalade was fairly close. It was hilarious when the actual podcast was from inside his SUV! What were the chances of that?

P.S. People who use push/fold charts or push/fold apps in MTTS at the live poker table are cheats (or at least are being allowed to cheat), and you can quote me on that.