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05-06-2015 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Anais
i'm just studying the culture
Best done down the pub. Cheers
05-06-2015 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
plaaynde,

You said Bruce was a "scapegoat." Could you elaborate a little bit about what he was being blamed for unfairly that he didn't actually have any responsibility for?
Somebody dug among his posts, took them out of his context, and suitably got one symbol for racism also on our tiny site, like in the big world.

Anti-racism: yes. Sacrificing Bruce: no
05-06-2015 , 01:26 PM
What was the context we missed that made Bruce's posts not racist?
05-06-2015 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
What was the context we missed that made Bruce's posts not racist?
Provocative philosophy. Abstraction without emotional bonding to the theme.

It was an example of the milieu of SMP at the time, honestly didn't like it much, I can give you that. But Bruce was not the guy for the scapegoat role. At least not this protracted.

Last edited by plaaynde; 05-06-2015 at 01:35 PM.
05-06-2015 , 01:33 PM
Bruce made a few stupid comments with a racist overtones, but honestly who was really offended?

I see a lot worse every time I surf the internet. Has there been even one Mexican that said anything about what Bruce said?

Seems to me its a bunch of white people over reacting again.
05-06-2015 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Somebody dug among his posts, took them out of his context, and suitably got one symbol for racism also on our tiny site, like in the big world.

Anti-racism: yes. Sacrificing Bruce: no
So what the **** do you want us politics posters to do about it? What are you accomplishing here other than further annoying us? Why are you even here?

Why dont you guys go bother the backgammon subforum for a while?
05-06-2015 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
So what the **** do you want us politics posters to do about it? What are you accomplishing here other than further annoying us? Why are you even here?

Why dont you guys go bother the backgammon subforum for a while?
Troll.
05-06-2015 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
I see a lot worse every time I surf the internet.
Of course you do.
05-06-2015 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Of course you do.
Look at any comment section. Man you are a dumb ass.
05-06-2015 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Troll.
See, looking at this dude's posts, he appears to be a sub-first level thinker. He's angry at the things that other poster wrote, so he'll call him a troll.

playaande, Bruce was a stupid racist. That you're defending him makes you a stupid racist.

So congratulations, you're now the sort of scum that defends slavery.


But, and here's the thing:
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Abstraction without emotional bonding to the theme.
A brief review of what actually happened actually shows that Bruce was INCREDIBLY EMOTIONALLY INVESTED in those posts, to such an extent that he had a meltdown over it.
05-06-2015 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
See, looking at this dude's posts, he appears to be a sub-first level thinker. He's angry at the things that other poster wrote, so he'll call him a troll.

playaande, Bruce was a stupid racist. That you're defending him makes you a stupid racist.

So congratulations, you're now the sort of scum that defends slavery.
lol its getting deep now.
05-06-2015 , 01:50 PM
yes, the ability of the anti-cockroachers to see things and then later remember them is quite incredible
05-06-2015 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
See, looking at this dude's posts, he appears to be a sub-first level thinker. He's angry at the things that other poster wrote, so he'll call him a troll.

playaande, Bruce was a stupid racist. That you're defending him makes you a stupid racist.

So congratulations, you're now the sort of scum that defends slavery.


But, and here's the thing:


A brief review of what actually happened actually shows that Bruce was INCREDIBLY EMOTIONALLY INVESTED in those posts, to such an extent that he had a meltdown over it.
Your interpretation is interesting, but doesn't quite make the cut.
05-06-2015 , 02:01 PM
It's part of an 'open' format to discuss ideas. Generally speaking, There is no big purpose in the SMP discussion to label people by whatever ideas they present. It's not politics.

There is no big moral problem against discussing any type of ideas in SMP and for a moral purpose. Morals related to freedom and knowledge are the roots of the 'open idea' style format.

A person who understands more the one-side of an issue or argument has more knowledge about it than a person who has information that is limited by as bias or unavailability. This method goes beyond philosophy and works in politics, but the posts were not made in politics and were not made for a political purpose.


Taking posts out of that setting/context and making them political- changed them into something else that adds intention and meaning that doesn't belong to Bruce or SMP.

Forgetting or overlooking the setting and context is likely part of why people went overboard with an opinion that doesn't factor any of this in.

As I recall, SMP seemed inclined a while back to address the issue of objectionable content by abridging their application of the 'open idea method' with upfront warnings.
05-06-2015 , 02:08 PM
Fly has no idea how emotions work if he thinks it just about drawing simplistic connections that supports his opinion and gives him an internet gotcha. He likely has little idea of how the people he targets actually work.

Also he is just here to argue and provoke people he think he can provoke. Look, Watch.
05-06-2015 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Provocative philosophy. Abstraction without emotional bonding to the theme.

It was an example of the milieu of SMP at the time, honestly didn't like it much, I can give you that. But Bruce was not the guy for the scapegoat role. At least not this protracted.
This interpretation never really worked for me. While it's not beyond the realms that this was Bruce's intention he would surely have made this clear as soon as people outside of that forum pulled it up. Like if you are advocating for the devil and someone points out you're advocating for the devil you know this it doesn't come as a surprise and yet his response suggested he was in fact surprised by the reaction.
05-06-2015 , 02:10 PM
Plaaynde going with the Bruce was play acting a racist angle. You should realize chef and foldn have spent months switching back and forth between Bruce's comments not being racist at all and him role playing some bigot for us to all learn a lesson.
05-06-2015 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Provocative philosophy. Abstraction without emotional bonding to the theme.

It was an example of the milieu of SMP at the time, honestly didn't like it much, I can give you that. But Bruce was not the guy for the scapegoat role. At least not this protracted.
If Bruce was so detached from his argument, why was he so invested in arguing that his arguments were not at all racist?
05-06-2015 , 02:13 PM
Prana with some mockery and making accusations.
05-06-2015 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
Plaaynde going with the Bruce was play acting a racist angle. You should realize chef and foldn have spent months switching back and forth between Bruce's comments not being racist at all and him role playing some bigot for us to all learn a lesson.
nope, this is the movie groundhog day and the last 8 months never happened

also, bruce's meltdown and racist garbage didn't happen

somehow, probably thru dark magic, bruce was demodded and that keeps him from being able to post, apparently. That is where we are right now. The Sklanskys using dark magic and not apologizing for it.
05-06-2015 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
If Bruce was so detached from his argument, why was he so invested in arguing that his arguments were not at all racist?
You can't figure that out yourself? Just role play and pretend other options than the one you already have exist.

Asking other people to explain your poor reads of someone else's emotions through the internet doesn't help your opinion.

Plus a range of options have already been offered for you, which have been mocked, diminished, and ignored.

Are you just repeating the same questions hoping to form the same "funny" gotchas out of the answers? It looks that way.
05-06-2015 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Provocative philosophy. Abstraction without emotional bonding to the theme.

It was an example of the milieu of SMP at the time, honestly didn't like it much, I can give you that. But Bruce was not the guy for the scapegoat role. At least not this protracted.
except that his "cockroach" mexican neighbors actually did exist, and his jimmies were legit rustled by all that "circus music"

fail
05-06-2015 , 02:25 PM
and like everyone else said, bruce went hard with the idea that he totally wasn't being racist and that everybody else was a bunch of weak livered nancy boys
05-06-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
except that his "cockroach" mexican neighbors actually did exist, and his jimmies were legit rustled by all that "circus music"

fail
You are distorting that post to make a moral accussation about it. You're almost constantly emotional and denigrating on this topic. It has been months.
05-06-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Troll.
No seriously, why are you here?

      
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