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04-21-2015 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
"modding probability in a racist manner", so awesome, you can't make this stuff up. It sounds like as long as he kept his racism separate from his duties as a mod then he would have been fine and the fiasco could have been avoided.
I was being flippant in response to something not worthy of a serious response.
04-21-2015 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
I'm pretty sure no one has actually claimed that it is.

Actually that has been implicitly equated to theft and murder. Which curiously also makes it a political issue.

However the purpose of the question was to potentially achieve better articulation of the specific moral accusations being made.

The moral faults of racism can be specifically articlutated, so which of these specific faults is equal or relevant to discussing ideas in a science, philosophy, or politics forum?
04-21-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I dunno if we ever figured out what cheeze actually wanted. He said something about Bruce not posting about the controversy for a while and facing no consequences, but the only person who stopped that from happening was Bruce. And yet, chez still thinks I drove the alienation of Bruce.
You got confused. There was never any question that Bruce could have faced no consequence at an earlier point.

Not sure why you got stuck on that.
04-21-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I was being flippant in response to something not worthy of a serious response.
I have clearly explained to you multiple times that I consider posting racist tripe makes one unfit to be a mod, even if you don't ban all the Mexican posters. I thought you said you had reached an understanding of my position. Clearly you need to reread.
04-21-2015 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
You got confused. There was never any question that Bruce could have faced no consequence at an earlier point.

Not sure why you got stuck on that.
OK, after Bruce failed to uphold that part of the arrangement, then what would you have rather seen happen?
04-21-2015 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I think you're underselling the impact of this King of NYC guy being introduced as a new character, though. You see that post with all the weird formatting about "opinions" and "facts"? That was impressively pointless. SMP-caliber nonsense.
Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment. Never posted in SMP fwiw.

And considering how opinions get tossed around as truth around here, it migh be worth exploring how both kinds of statements impacted what happened.

Or not. Post a quip and just move on
04-21-2015 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Actually that has been implicitly equated to theft and murder. Which curiously also makes it a political issue.
Phone Booth was comparing the logic of the situations.

lets not claim Phone Booth was comparing some bad posts as mod to rape or murder.
04-21-2015 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK, after Bruce failed to uphold that part of the arrangement, then what would you have rather seen happen?
Are you saying there had been an agreed arrangement?
04-21-2015 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I thought you said you had reached an understanding of my position. Clearly you need to reread.
You're getting confused again - are you on the phone?

The flippant response was to a silly point re Mat becoming aware of Bruce causing further trouble as a mod.
04-21-2015 , 07:35 PM
Mat was pretty clear that Bruce just needed to stop talking about this and then he would do nothing.
04-21-2015 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Mat was pretty clear that Bruce just needed to stop talking about this and then he would do nothing.
Not sure why you got stuck on that, we never disagreed that Bruce could have faced no consequence at an earlier point but that's not an agreed way forward like I was suggesting could have been achieved at the later stage if you had wanted to find a way forward (which you clearly didn't).
04-21-2015 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Who knows if we are really done but barring anything new we might well be. We know LG will do his best to ensure we aren't done but as long as wookie brings it here we should be fine.
OH MAN I'M SO GLAD WE'RE DONE WITH THIS
04-21-2015 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I have clearly explained to you multiple times that I consider posting racist tripe makes one unfit to be a mod, even if you don't ban all the Mexican posters. I thought you said you had reached an understanding of my position. Clearly you need to reread.

What about your racism?

Spoiler:
In comes the completely made up definition of racism only applying to specific skin colors (despite no dictionary supporting that conclusion) and not accepting the true definition of "stereotype". This while others say some racism, including your self, is tolerable or does not matter.

Last edited by braves2017; 04-21-2015 at 08:18 PM. Reason: In before someone calls me racist for pointing to racism
04-21-2015 , 08:27 PM
Damn, so not only is Wookie responsible for every single thing that happened to Bruce, he is also now solely responsible for the discussion I had with braves only two days ago in which he never participated in any way!

Wookie, what else are hiding from us that you need to take the blame for?
04-21-2015 , 08:30 PM
04-21-2015 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by metaname2
Acclimating affirmation.

That is nonsense.

Remember excessive argumentation, mockery, derision, and accusation have all been identified.

On a related note, Specific moral positions against these kinds of behavior can be articulated.

Are you morally bothered by dehumanizing behavior?
04-21-2015 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Damn, so not only is Wookie responsible for every single thing that happened to Bruce, he is also now solely responsible for the discussion I had with braves only two days ago in which he never participated in any way!

Wookie, what else are hiding from us that you need to take the blame for?
Your arguments have been made by MrWookie numerous times over the past 5 years, at least. Our discussion really has no bearing other than repeating the company line. Almost every time MrWookie is present in one of these discussions, you are too as with fly making the same absurd arguments.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2203

Based on that posted, MrWookie subscribes to my definition of stereotype....except he will change this definition at his leisure and when it suits his argument. So will you.

Last edited by braves2017; 04-21-2015 at 08:41 PM.
04-21-2015 , 08:40 PM
So do you have a link to those times?

eta: I'm impressed you've caught up on the past 5 years of forum history in only 2 days.
04-21-2015 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
So do you have a link to those times?
Are you doubting my claims of MrWookie believing whites are privileged?

We do not need another derail where you completely ignore the definition of a stereotype.

EDIT: I've been reading this forum for a few weeks....
04-21-2015 , 08:44 PM
Interesting to consider MrWookie has publicly proclaimed his opinions on racism are infallible.

What happens when a person who thinks and operates as if they have an infallible opinion actually has a rather weak, one-sided opinion excessively supported with accusation, derision, and mockery?

What happens if this person has authority? We can actually look. Well, Seems like a good spot to lose the opinion, lose the infallibility, and seek a better opinion.
04-21-2015 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
Are you doubting my claims of MrWookie believing whites are privileged?

We do not need another derail where you completely ignore the definition of a stereotype.

EDIT: I've been reading this forum for a few weeks....
I ignored your definition because it was universally regarded is idiotic nonsense.

However, I really do enjoy how often this topic turns into Lash Out At The Figurehead Who Doesn't Even Mod This Forum For Things He Had Nothing To Do With And Are Often Completely Unrelated To This Thread Topic As Well.
04-21-2015 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I ignored your definition because it was universally regarded is idiotic nonsense.
Two fundamental problems you have:

1. Not realizing its not my definition.
2. Not realizing some of the company you surround yourself with (the universal regarded part) here in politics have an equally fallible understanding of the issue. I mean, certainly because they agree with you does not make you right...right?

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Originally Posted by zikzak
However, I really do enjoy how often this topic turns into Lash Out At The Figurehead Who Doesn't Even Mod This Forum For Things He Had Nothing To Do With And Are Often Completely Unrelated To This Thread Topic As Well.
Deflection:

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I have clearly explained to you multiple times that I consider posting racist tripe makes one unfit to be a mod, even if you don't ban all the Mexican posters. I thought you said you had reached an understanding of my position. Clearly you need to reread.
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Originally Posted by braves2017
What about your racism?

Spoiler:
In comes the completely made up definition of racism only applying to specific skin colors (despite no dictionary supporting that conclusion) and not accepting the true definition of "stereotype". This while others say some racism, including your self, is tolerable or does not matter.
When you make a statement like that, you open yourself up to the criticism of being racist yourself, especially when there is empirical evidence. Yes, I know, you and others change or ignore the definition of racism and stereotype in order for it not to be racist which actually does not prove you all are not a racist, its just you manipulate and distort facts to assuage your own racism when it occurs and revert back to the standard understanding when its racism you do not like. People on Stormfront do this all the time as well, they are just as racist.

Last edited by braves2017; 04-21-2015 at 09:07 PM.
04-21-2015 , 09:01 PM
If you are incapable of understanding a dictionary and project your own nonsense onto a word, it becomes your definition.
04-21-2015 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Not sure why you got stuck on that, we never disagreed that Bruce could have faced no consequence at an earlier point but that's not an agreed way forward like I was suggesting could have been achieved at the later stage if you had wanted to find a way forward (which you clearly didn't).
Can you briefly elaborate on what exactly you believe the timeline of Wookie's actions was?
04-21-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I ignored your definition because it was universally regarded is idiotic nonsense.

However, I really do enjoy how often this topic turns into Lash Out At The Figurehead Who Doesn't Even Mod This Forum For Things He Had Nothing To Do With And Are Often Completely Unrelated To This Thread Topic As Well.
Racists hate MrWookie almost as much as they hate Mexicans.

      
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