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02-08-2010 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Qstick333
What is the nl equivalent of 10-20 limit regarding bankroll size. I typically play the 10-20 or 20-40 games in the summers and rarely play in Atlantic City through the winter. I've been here for a couple days and have a couple more. The limit games in the back room are filled with regulars that all know each other and are driving me crazy. I'm ahead a bit, but the games are frankly not great with many locals staying out of pots with each other etc...

There always seems to be several 2-5 and 5-10nl games. nl is not a great game for me, but they might prove to be more profitable with a no nonsense straight-forward approach.

Curious as to any opinions etc...
I hear the 1-2 game can net you $20 an hour. I play the 20 game all the time and find the game to be rather soft. I would say there are many solid ABC players in the game but really only 2 I can think of off the top of my head that can actaully make the game a pain in the balls to play.

I also talked with a friend of mine who said he had to strictly play 2-5 NL for a month and was able to make 5k just short stacking each time.

If you want to earn decent money I would try the 2-5nl game. Bring a book or somethine to distract you in between hands and just play super nitty and whort stack the **** out of them. I think you will do fine. Plus much lower varience in NLHE then LHE.
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02-08-2010 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by keevin33
yeah but it is supposed to be GUARANTEED

that would be BS if they didnt guarantee the 15k. hopefully i win the tourny of 10 people
Borgata honors its guaranteed tournaments. You should be grateful to be able to play in the best run poker room period. However, this Wednesday's tourneys are canceled due to impending storm. Completely reasonable.
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02-08-2010 , 09:38 PM
I think 1k would be a good amount for you to buy in to the 5-10 with to start fosterman. Anything less is too small imo. You can generally build 1k up pretty quickly without finding urself in too many difficult spots. Although the players aren't much better than those you normally find at 2-5, the pots are much, much bigger on average. Making the jump from 2-5 to 5-10 is not even comparable to making the jump from 1-2 to 2-5. It is worlds bigger. Just be ready.
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02-08-2010 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by keevin33
thinking of playing the Wed. 15k guarantee tournament. think they will have a good turnout this week?
DON'T come for the Wed. tourney, as it was cancelled, due to impending storm.

Word has it that tourneys are cancelled from Tuesday night thru Thursday
night at the Borgata...

Looks like the next tourney there won't be till Friday at 12 noon...
But there should be some good live action !!!
Lots of die hard players tend to come out in storms !
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02-08-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nocrying
Borgata honors its guaranteed tournaments. You should be grateful to be able to play in the best run poker room period. However, this Wednesday's tourneys are canceled due to impending storm. Completely reasonable.
why is it completely reasonable?
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02-08-2010 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
why is it completely reasonable?
Because (if pokerrocks is right) they gave a 48 hours heads up. What more do you want?

The had like a 9K overlay on Friday in the 30K and honored it.

Backing out the day of is scummy....canceling 48 hours in advance (for a valid reason) is beyond reasonable.
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02-08-2010 , 11:12 PM
Guys please do not feed the troll.
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02-09-2010 , 12:03 AM
9k overlay last week is ridiculous, but that just shows you how classy of a joint the B is, much props to Stan and the crew
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02-09-2010 , 02:59 AM
Could anyone who has eaten at NOW (Noodles of the World) comment on the food? I would like to hear opinions before I step in for a meal, thanks!
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02-09-2010 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by runLOLArun
Could anyone who has eaten at NOW (Noodles of the World) comment on the food? I would like to hear opinions before I step in for a meal, thanks!
It's great - you will enjoy it. There can be lines at peak times.

Jeff
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02-09-2010 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
Because (if pokerrocks is right) they gave a 48 hours heads up. What more do you want?

The had like a 9K overlay on Friday in the 30K and honored it.

Backing out the day of is scummy....canceling 48 hours in advance (for a valid reason) is beyond reasonable.
They honored the guarantee, nice. There was an overlay almost certainly due to the snow. Now its supposed to snow again, so they cancel so they dont have to again honor the guarantee. Its not as scummy as cancelling day of, but its almost as bad.

Last edited by Bersicker; 02-09-2010 at 09:22 AM.
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02-09-2010 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
They honored the guarantee, nice. There was an overlay almost certainly due to the snow. Now its supposed to snow again, so they cancel so they dont have to again honor the guarantee. Its not as scummy as cancelling day of, but its almost as bad.
You obv just want to be one of the 80 players in a tourney with a 10K overlay....or are you not even going to be there and feel like arguing?

The spirit of a guarantee doesn't extend to a huge snow storm when you KNOW players can't get there. If it were just a random Wedns with no extenuating circumstances and 75 people showed up, they'd honor the guarantee....like they always do. You won't find a single example of The B backing out of a guarantee...so they certainly get a pass for this week.
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02-09-2010 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by runLOLArun
Could anyone who has eaten at NOW (Noodles of the World) comment on the food? I would like to hear opinions before I step in for a meal, thanks!
don't go to now, they are undergoing renovations and won't be open til the 11th of feb.
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02-09-2010 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
You obv just want to be one of the 80 players in a tourney with a 10K overlay....or are you not even going to be there and feel like arguing?

The spirit of a guarantee doesn't extend to a huge snow storm when you KNOW players can't get there. If it were just a random Wedns with no extenuating circumstances and 75 people showed up, they'd honor the guarantee....like they always do. You won't find a single example of The B backing out of a guarantee...so they certainly get a pass for this week.
this is how the guarantee is set up:
for a simple example, they take a look at how many entries they get for daily tourneys over a period of time. lets say they looked at one year of wednesday tourneys and found that the lowest turnout was ~110 players @ $100. thats $11000. voila, we make wednesdays tourney a $10,000 guarantee. the casino uses this as a promotional tool to attract customers while giving the illusion of risk on there part. in actuality, the risk is minimal if any at all. even in the cases where they had to put some cash into the pot, the number of extra customers they attract throughout the duration of the promotion (and thus the reason for the promotion in the first place) covers the very infrequent outlay by the casino(poker room, whatever). the only problem would be if there was a huge amount of no shows, due to maybe, you know, a snow storm or something. then they would take a hit (which still might be aborsbed by the added traffic), unless they simply cancel the tourney altogether for that day.
the above might not be exact, but they definitely dont close their eyes and pick some random guarantee number and hope enough people show up.
the 'spirit' of the promotion is supposed to be that on this day at this time, we will have a tourney that will have a prize pool of $xxxxx. not, 'on this day at this time, we will have a tourney that will have a prize pool of $xxxxx, unless we think enough people wont show up'.
the poker room will be open wednesday, right?

so whatever. maybe i dont know what im talking about. who cares. be happy and content that they cancelled the tourney.
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02-09-2010 , 01:05 PM
Another part of the problem for the tournament is staffing. If a good amount of dealers are snowed in that could effect the amount of tables they can even open for the tournament.
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02-09-2010 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by StackerBA
Another part of the problem for the tournament is staffing. If a good amount of dealers are snowed in that could effect the amount of tables they can even open for the tournament.
ok so they only have enough dealers for 5 tables- the first 50 players are in, after that, any players signing up will be notified they are standbys and will replace any bust-outs.

or

they can adjust the live games to accommodate the tourney. this wouldnt be a new concept. ive had to wait around for tourney tables to break so they could open a new live game.
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02-09-2010 , 01:28 PM
a whole lot of nit picking and complaining over nothing at all.....obviously by some trolls who are trying to angleshoot their way to a big overlay....stop hoping for an overlay artificially fabricated by a huge snowstorm.....and remember this, not all is fair in life and gambling.....it's well known that gaming establishments have always reserved the right to rule as they want, when they want, so stop being so apalled over this "injustice" the borgata goes well above the competition when catering to their clientele overall.
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02-09-2010 , 01:39 PM
im not appalled at all. its exactly what i would expect to happen. the borg is covering their ass. its business. its comical that the the person trying to look out for the players (who obviously dont realize they are being deceived) is called a troll.

sure, the casino can do whatever they want. but one casino doesnt honor the guarantee (i assume its happened. ive never heard of it happening, but i will assume it did) and theyre scummy, the borgata doesnt honor it and they are praised for it. standard from the borg fans i guess.
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02-09-2010 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
ok so they only have enough dealers for 5 tables- the first 50 players are in, after that, any players signing up will be notified they are standbys and will replace any bust-outs.

or

they can adjust the live games to accommodate the tourney. this wouldnt be a new concept. ive had to wait around for tourney tables to break so they could open a new live game.
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
im not appalled at all. its exactly what i would expect to happen. the borg is covering their ass. its business. its comical that the the person trying to look out for the players (who obviously dont realize they are being deceived) is called a troll.

sure, the casino can do whatever they want. but one casino doesnt honor the guarantee (i assume its happened. ive never heard of it happening, but i will assume it did) and theyre scummy, the borgata doesnt honor it and they are praised for it. standard from the borg fans i guess.
There are extenuating circumstances that do not allow Borgata to manage a tournament of the quality that would meet their expectations. You seem to be used to playing in sub par poker rooms where some areas are negatively affected to make other areas work.

Your complaining won't change things. You are hereby encouraged to play elsewhere.
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02-09-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
im not appalled at all. its exactly what i would expect to happen. the borg is covering their ass. its business. its comical that the the person trying to look out for the players (who obviously dont realize they are being deceived) is called a troll.

sure, the casino can do whatever they want. but one casino doesnt honor the guarantee (i assume its happened. ive never heard of it happening, but i will assume it did) and theyre scummy, the borgata doesnt honor it and they are praised for it. standard from the borg fans i guess.
I've read your post....and I can't find a single line that actually makes a good point. BTW, You ARE trolling in this instance.

There's certainly no deception at hand. Nobody is showing up Wedns and having the rug pulled out from under them.

Let's all agree to not reply to this debate anymore. If you wish to continue it, make a diff thread asking if a casino has the right to do a ONE TIME cancel on an event (with 2+ days warning) when 24 inches of snow is pending. If you choose to start a thread, make sure to include all the facts....stop trolling and hijacking this thread.

EDIT: not to mention....like Stacker said (who is or was a dealer at Showboat I think)...there will be staffing problems due to ummmm 24 inches of snow!!
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02-09-2010 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
I've read your post....and I can't find a single line that actually makes a good point. BTW, You ARE trolling in this instance.

There's certainly no deception at hand. Nobody is showing up Wedns and having the rug pulled out from under them.

Let's all agree to not reply to this debate anymore. If you wish to continue it, make a diff thread asking if a casino has the right to do a ONE TIME cancel on an event (with 2+ days warning) when 24 inches of snow is pending. If you choose to start a thread, make sure to include all the facts....stop trolling and hijacking this thread.

EDIT: not to mention....like Stacker said (who is or was a dealer at Showboat I think)...there will be staffing problems due to ummmm 24 inches of snow!!
wtf are you talking about? hijacking? we are talking about the borgata tourney in the borgata thread. htf is that hijacking? htf is trying to help players trolling? are you on crack?

regardless, carry on with the naivety. enjoy.

edit: re the part i bolded- i guarantee people show up not knowing the tourney was cancelled
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02-09-2010 , 02:59 PM
LOL....I guess people are moaning about no guarantees for tomorrow? Get a life degenerates! It'd actually be irresponsible for them to have a Wed guarantee b/c it would entice people to come out who wouldn't normally. Stay home, chain smoke your Newports and watch Maury like you normally do.
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02-09-2010 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
You seem to be used to playing in sub par poker rooms where some areas are negatively affected to make other areas work.
i play 99.99% of the time at the borg, so yeah.
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02-09-2010 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersicker
wtf are you talking about? hijacking? we are talking about the borgata tourney in the borgata thread. htf is that hijacking? htf is trying to help players trolling? are you on crack?

regardless, carry on with the naivety. enjoy.

edit: re the part i bolded- i guarantee people show up not knowing the tourney was cancelled
I guarantee it will be their fault.....Borgata's site clearly lists the tourney as cancelled.
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02-09-2010 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
I guarantee it will be their fault.....Borgata's site clearly lists the tourney as cancelled.
I met a couple of different people this morning who had come from hours away and were disappointed to find out that the main reasons (daily tourneys) for their trip had been cancelled. They did feel a little like the rug had been pulled out from under them, but felt better after some explanation behind the cancellations.

I don't think enough people can be expected to check the web site that regularly in that two day window to say that it's their fault.

That said, I'm on the side of the Borgata being completely reasonable and NOT scummy for doing what they did. Among other things, getting things running smoothly during a snowstorm is really tough when staff can't get to work safely. Saturday was a good example of this. Anyway, to think otherwise is a sign of being too self-important and entitled.

And I am pretty bummed that no PLO has run since Saturday.
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