Borgata has always structured their prize pools this way...at least for the last several years. The differences between 9th and 3rd are all roughly the same, and then there is a huge jump from 3rd to 2nd.

That's the way it is in the WPT main event, and that's the way it is in their $100+20 daily tourneys. I hate it, and I can't understand it, but obviously someone thinks that's how it should be.

I think that you missed my point:

6th is $38,633 more than 7th.
5th is only $31,914 more than 6th.
4th is only $28,555 more than 5th.

For a few spots, the increases decrease in size.

Could someone help a Borg newb and tell me what the min and max buyins are for:

2/5 NL
5/10 NL
10/25 NL
25/50 NL

thanks in advance

Now this doesnt include what you should ideally buy in for, esp the uncapped games

correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the following to be true following my visit there last wknd:

5-10 is capped at 2k, dunno the min.

10-20 is min 1k, max 5k.

10-25 and up are 100bb min (which is great, no shortstackers) and uncapped.

Is this really what bothers you about the structure? It's a little strange, but these differences are tiny compared to the differences between 2nd/3rd and all jumps further down. Certainly they are nothing compared to the WSOP, which has like a $400K difference b/w 9th and 10th, but only a $30K difference b/w 8th and 9th.

2/5 is 100 - 500 buyin
5/10 is 500 - 2k

Afternoon game update?

Please

Monday is Stan's day off! Though he does still come to check in here...

Let the man rest at least one day!

Thanks Stan!

I had my first ever trip to Borgata on 9/7 - 9/8, and it was awesome. What a great poker room! I was on a motorcycle trip, an ddue to some unplanned maint. I had to get done I didn't get in as many hours as I wanted, but it was great while I was there. I got 3 sessions of 1/2 NLHE in for a total of about 19 hours (and I forgot to card out on one of them...ugh. I ended up about $900 to the good, so that was awesome. Man, the games get much tougher at night.

Anyway, I will be back soon for sure...thanks Stan!

Bah, here I was pestering the man on his day off cause I waited too long to book a room. Now I feel like a jerk.

I know what you mean blane...I mean, as soon as I read your post I was like "wow..what a JERK!"

lol...j/k

Stan, I played in the pink o8 game over the weakend and was somewhat disappointed by the way the game is run. The chopping of the splits down to whites slows the game to a crawl. Half the time the dealers didn't know what to do because the whites were still not even. The regs would argue with each other about who got the extra 50 cents. We were getting about 12 hands a down. It was brutal.

I always told the dealer that a pink equals a white at the end, and that usually gets to split good. At worst, one guy gets $1.50 more than another. If there's just one pink left at the end with no other whites (rare?), then one guy gets $2.50. Whatever.

Doesn't seem hard to me, but may be confusing to those who are new to splitting pinks.

The truth is I am at work and I have been very busy with the tournament and the live games in the poker room. I know there are a lot of players waiting for PM's and calls from me but I promise you will hear from me by tomorrow.

Time for a live game report Monday 5:00pm

(42) Live games

(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(1) 10-20 LHE
(3) 20-40 LHE

(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L

(13) 1-2 NL
(11) 2-5 NL
(5) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL
(2) 25-50 NL

Yesterday's Results

(1018) Event #18 11am $3,300 + $200 WPT Main Event


Today's Events

(346) Event #19 12pm $400 + $50 NL
(???) Event #47 7pm $200 + $30 NL

Tomorrow's Events

Event #20 12pm $350 + $50 NL
Event #48 7pm $200 + $30 NL

BBJP $159,125

Stan

Thanks a ton Stan for the updates as usual. Sorry to hear they got ya working so hard.

Don't feel that way, I enjoy tournament time. Keeps you busy and it's a lot of fun.

Stan

We just sent out some training material so that we are on the same page. Please give us some time to get it right.

Stan

In your opinion, what's the ideal buyin for each?

Every time I have played in this game, the chopping has been done inconsistently...varying from hand to hand, often based on the whims of the players in the hand. One time we asked two floor people about the proper procedure, and got opposite responses. We appealed to Stan, who told us to chop two pinks into five whites, but this decree didn't really stick for very long.

I really wish they would just time charge the game and keep the pots 100% pink.
Nevertheless, it is a fun game to play in, and it is great to see more mid-stakes non-NLHE options being spread.

I agree that there should be a standard chopping rule...with players cooperating and not getting salty about getting $1 or $1.50 less. It's a pink game, it's semi-unorthodox...and it's fun as h*ll. Roll with it.

I do disagree with you about the time charge though. Even with a standard chop rule (which would save arguing time) it's still an omaha split pot game. There will be rotations where 12 hands get played. I still like the 5% rake up to $4....and even when dealers get more comfortable with it, I'm in favor of keeping it that way.

game report early afternoon please

It's really not that difficult to pull 2 pinks and turn into 5 whites, to make the chop. As Stan mentioned, it's just a training issue and once they get used to it, it will go much smoother. This has been the standard chop method, since the game was created at the Trop, years ago.

Time for a live game report Tuesday 1:50pm

(31) Live games

(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE

(1) 10-20 O.E.

(9) 1-2 NL
(7) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

Yesterday's Results

(346) Event #19 12pm $400 + $50 NL
(141) Event #47 7pm $150 + $30 NL

Today's Events

(324) Event #20 12pm $350 + $50 NL
(???) Event #48 7pm $150 + $30 NL

Tomorrow's Events

Event #21 12pm $300 + $50 NL
Event #49 7pm $150 + $30 NL

BBJP $162,682

Stan