Sounds about par for the course.

Oldest pitcher to ever steal a base.

Also, baserunners' steal rate against Maddux over the course of his career was just over 76%.

Not to diminish your feat, but assuming a tight blind defense range for Maddux, it's only marginally easier to steal his blinds than it was to steal second on the Hall-Of-Famer.

So if you make a rough 21 you push with dealer bj? And if you both have BJ you win? Not sure if this is what you're saying but if it is I think that game would be +EV with basic strategy, although optimal strategy would also change.

I didn't get a BJ but I'm guessing it's a push. I doubled 11 twice v. dealer 10, made 21 @ time and got my bet back when dealer had an Ace in the hole. Dealer didn't even bother checking to see if he had BJ w/ a Face up although tried w/ and Ace, didn't work for that either. IDK how many tables are affected but all you have to do is watch to see if they check w/ a Face up. The problem for the casino is that the cards are a bit rounded and don't fit properly into the device.

I'd have to do math, but I'd guess doubling with 11 vs a 10 may be wrong if dealer is going to have 21 little over 7% of the time.

There is some variation in the basic strategy charts but nearly all say to double 11 v. 10. Having looked at a few there is differing advice on whether or not to double v. an Ace w/ most saying just to hit. And if dealer shows up w/ the Ace in the hole we push, for now.

I'm saying our expectation doubling surely has to be less when dealer will have buried 21 7% of the time and we we lose 2 bets in a spot we obviously never would have doubled had they 21.

How did you find that out? You've given up the pit forever, right?

Where you get screwed is if you split. You'd never have the opportunity if the dealer played it right, but you would prob lose both bets otherwise.

Bah, he had bad catchers.

OIC. I'm pretty sure, although I didn't ask specifically but that's the way I took it, that they will only take 1 bet from us when they have the BJ that would have prevented us from doubling. Virtually certain of that actually or else I wouldn't have doubled.

1. I hit the 1st quarter football pool w/ the 0-0 ticket for $450.
2. I'm sick in the head.
3. This was the first time in like 2 weeks or so that mom wasn't very sick and I could go to the casino and I wanted to get my money's worth. Now I'm thinking that I'd better just give it up entirely for a good, long while.
4. Which I won't do.

You were the guy sitting next to me at 8-16 until I table changed.

Heh, fwiw you were the person at the top of my 'this is prob CrazyLond' list. Now confirmed.

Seems like there are often professional athletes in the Talking Stick Arena. Just every day guys like you and me looking to have some fun and throw a few cards around the table. Give them their privacy. They are not on the clock.

Was this a special case, or is the new management now banning all husbands and wives from playing at the same tables? If not, then ... well, it speaks for itself I guess. Wow.

q/q

The floor told me it was an old rule that was invoked. I've played for years in the same game with husbands/wives, brothers, boyfriends/girlfriends, even dads/sons. Never had a problem and heard of this rule till now.

There is only one reason this rule exists, the fear of collusion, and that makes it one of the dumbest rules ever. Because it's far harder to collude with someone related to you than it is someone who is not. It's far easier to notice suspicious behavior between two related players, because it's a natural association players will make. If a husband and wife both make odd decisions in a hand, the first thought most players have is whether they were up to something. When two random regs do the same thing most players first thought is, boy they sure play bad.

So the only reason the rule exists is for players to troll others and make the games worse. CAZ is unlikely to fix or remove the rule, so I expect a round of tit for tat rules invocations. CAZ also refuses to use the most standard set of poker rules, Roberts, which give the floor the right and responsibility to enforce rules in the fairest and best manner and not let the rules be abused by angle shooters.

Hey, they aren't in business to do things in "the fairest and best manner". They do what's best for them (they think).

From my experience they don't really get bothered at the tables; most players recognize them but realize they are loaded so are respectful. Played a lot with Paul Azinger/Jeremy Roenick too in AZ. Most professional athletes play pretty tight.

LOL...Azinger played along one night ( back in the 5-150 spread game days) with a kid who was touting how great of a golfer he was (talking about himself) and offering challenge matches, Azinger just sat quietly listening..finally kid says "you play? to Azinger..."Yeah, a little bit im decent" half the players knew Azinger and just laughed out loud, kid didnt have a clue till later( one of the players told me), when apprently they told him it was Azinger ( he was kind of hard to recognize).

For the floor and/or tourney poker people in the room:

1) kudos in adding back in the football promo tickets for tourney players. Esp with the timing of the Monday and Thursday tourneys starting around half time of the games, it doesn't discourage the players from playing the tourney. Hopefully the prize pools/fields grow a bit thanks to that.

2)Quick suggestion on rake for tourneys: keep them uniform % wise rather than charging absurdly higher amount of rake/add on for same buy in tourney.

Example: Nightly is $115+$15+$10
And the Omaha on Sunday is $120+$30+$15.

Just because it's a bit more involved for the dealers to deal Omaha vs Hold Em, that hardly justifies the doubled rake and higher add on when the prize pool gets the same (+$5 difference) amount from the buy in. Pretty sure more players would show up to the Omaha tourneys if the rake was the same as equal buy in Hold Em tourneys. (Unless of course you are just hoping people don't notice and show up anyway, which I know is most likely the case since many never pay attention to rake amounts and %s).

Just my couple of pennies, thanks

I think suggesting this is more likely to result in increased nlhe juice

Well that would certainly be epic fail

So now you're gonna pay FB tickets again in top section? Paying out of hard drop? Better late than never to give a promo of any kind to the players who spend the most hours/money in the casino. Well done Ravens, I mean Talking Stick.

He said tourney players, not top section.

Thinking about heading over there... Haven't played poker since the World Series...