I'm assuming after he cut off his hand and left they had no reason to stick around so they wandered off.

I felt him going back was stupid until he brought up the guns and walkie talkie, then it at least made plausible sense.

The only thing I'm learning from this show is that when the zombie apolocalypse happen you are probably better off sticking by yourself than joining up with a group of survivors who are complete idiots.

And they were made before I got modded and are part of the reason I was modded.

His post probably doesn't get as much attention without the stupid racism comment.

ETA- I'm more than willing to continue this discussion, but let's move it to the Random Stuff thread.

I guess my nit of the week will be: why not cut through the chain instead of cutting your hand off?

Only thing that makes sense is that he couldn't cut through the chain I guess.

I kinda like this, and would have liked it more had the performances been better. Had a feel that they were biting off something their cast couldn't chew. Everybody who is a "bad guy" at this point has been really one note. Racist guy, abusive sexist guy- all have less depth that the "wants to eat your brains" guys.

I have no idea why he didn't lead with "I have to get walkie talkies and guns and oh yeah I guess we should save that guy too". Just sloppy.

Seen Saw? (you could see the ripoff coming an hour away.) Flesh and bone are easier to cut through than metal

As for surviving after cutting your hand off; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

You probably have more time if you've been out in the sun all day and you're dehydrated. Blood can clot easier.

We don't know when the opening scene with Merle was taking place in line with the rest of the show. It could have happened just a couple hours before the crew arrived, as opposed to the day prior.

Loving the show.

Hating how the wife is a total bitch.

This, except I think Racist Guy was a little better this episode and his scene at the beginning actually held my attention. Abusive Guy was horrible, and I'm guessing they made him that much of a caricature so we'd get a "frustrated but redeemable" vibe instead of a "violent *******" vibe from Shane when he beat the hell out of him.

Still felt cheesy, though.

Anyway, I'm not on the edge of my seat waiting for the next episode, but it's still been pretty good. I think there's a lot of emotional stuff to milk in this series, but the writing is going to have to be really strong in order to pull it off.

I would be really pissed if shane does indeed turn into a "villain"

he has done nothing wrong at this point. and hasn't tried to put other people in danger.

I remember the story of the guy who had his arm pinned under the boulder and eventually had to remove it to get free.

According to him there was much less pain and blood than you'd expect because his armed had been crushed under the boulder for along time and was basically already dead when he removed it.

And if Shane becomes a villain that'd be fine, he'd at least be a villain with some depth and not the bozos they've given us so far.

Cotton, I guess my problem with shane becoming a villain i that it would be becuase of the other members forced him to become one.
The bitch is being a bitch now. I don't think he will try to bang her while rick is alive and he is not trying to get in the way of things. And also him beating the **** out of that **** was perfectly understandable.

I may be getting ahead of myself here though. I could be talking out of my ass and shane never becomes a villain.

Well, it would be through a series of misunderstandings. Like he probably told her he was dead because he 100% thought that, to help her move on and not be hesitant to leave.

She thinks he lied on purpose, so she's understandably upset.

When main dude finds out all this and that he was boning his wife, he'll also be pissed.

I can understand people being quick to fly off the handle and easily turn on friends in the extreme circumstances too.

yeah that's all true. it makes sense that people would be edgy in this type of apocalypse

I saw it as more a ripoff of Mad Max, but there the guy was under extreme time pressure. Otherwise I'd think you could eventually saw through a little metal chain given a decent amount of time. Or even saw through the pipe if that didn't work. And there's no evidence the zombies broke through to him, so I don't get why he'd be in such a hurry. Maybe it will all be explained. /nit

Overall though I still think it's a pretty good show. It's a real 'page-turner' if I'm allowed to mix my metaphors.

the music when they got to the roof top was just awesome. Show has some pacing issues now and the acting is lol at times. Idk, glad this is only 6 episodes, it could get old quick.

i enjoy seeing redneck wife-beaters get pummeled

LOL at identifying that as a ripoff of Saw. Kids these days. If it's a ripoff of anything, and it really isn't, it's definitely Mad Max.

Also, the zombies were breaking through the door, he was delusional and crazy anyway, it really would take forever to go through handcuff chains with a rusted hacksaw(there was dialogue about that in the second ep). I have no problem with him deciding to go through the wrist.

The whole subplot, though, is dumb as ****. Why didn't they pick up the guns during the initial escape? Why not just drive a few blocks away to lure the walkers and go back for the racist guy immediately? How far away is this mountain camp area?

Also, really, in rural Georgia the best source of guns anyone can think of is a duffel bag somewhere downtown? Combine that with how they are eating squirrels and **** and maybe in the universe of this TV show Walmart doesn't exist.

He could cut through the bolt/bracket the cuffs were on. Handcuff chain is extremely tough and more importantly it moves. The bolt however could be cut through in a minute or two.

Fwiw id have stamped on my hand, broke my thumb and just slid off the cuffs before id cut off the hand.

I feel kinda bad that i told that dude the ep wouldnt be filler I mean it wasnt, but it was a bridging ep with a bunch of character intro and development and not much action.

Shane being painted the wholly unlikable bad guy is lazy but i dont think that is exactly where they are going. They are setting up the show with two sides, Shane and Rick being the two leaders. It will be a competition with the side that plays it safe and the side that takes risk. Shane is the leader who lets people gather supplies for him whilst he hangs back, Rick is the leader who leads a frontal assault against all logic of the greater good. Personal issues with the love triangle aside neither is particularly right or wrong and ironically are complimentary for the long term survival of the group.

Presumably this will play out more in season two as one seems to mainly be about collecting the cast together and introducing the world.

Btw the bag of guns being brought up isnt really a factor, its window dressing. Rick was always going back for the walkie as much as the guy on the roof. The reason they dont have much weaponry is they have hunkered down somewhere safe(r) and are looting what little they can from the city with the gun shop probably already empty from other looters.

I don't think I'd be eating squirrels/deer/etc. killed with that crossbow.

Man, like where's the ****ing weed garden!? I'd be like "Uuuh, see ya later, heroes. I'm gonna blaze, catch a frog later, and bang me a bitchy cop's wife in the back of this stripped Camaro. Bring me back a bag of Doritos bitchez!"

"Wash my underpants, you ****!"

Haha I thought the same thing. He accepts that he shouldn't risk eating the deer after it was gnawed on, but then he shoots an arrow straight into the brain (through the eye), and yanks it out. He then wipes it off on his jeans and moves on.

No. way.

I thought they showed him cleaning them in boiling water. Doesn't show him using it on squirrels either.

You are correct, they did.

Re Shane again.

Was it implied that he purposely lied about Grimes being dead? Meaning he knew he was still in a coma at the hospital while all this shot was goof down? If we are suppose to believe this then it adds to the notion that he's a scumbag but if he was like **** it he's dead let's gtfo then Lori should be the one at fault here.

I just wanna congratulate myself on relevan nitpicking here too.

They can't be that far away because you can see skyscrapers in the distance in some of the camp scenes. Anyone from ATL know where they are supposed to be (or where they are filming these scenes)? My first thought was Stone Mountain, but haven't been any signs of General Lee.

My favourite episode so far. I nearly didn't watch it because of how much I hated the 2nd one, but luckily I was bored enough to give it a go.

I'm excited about next week.

Quick q - do they call the walkers "geeks", or am i repeatedly mishearing that?