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11-16-2016 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
LOL. "Misinformation"? Brendan Dassey is about to be released after being wrongfully accused, tried, convicted and imprisoned for 11 years...all based on an entire law enforcement agency's massive spew fest of pure lies, coercion, fabricated and falsified records and evidence, and straight up corruption.

And you talkin' 'bout birthdays.
Yeah, no evidence to support anything you just aid there.
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11-16-2016 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Yeah, no evidence to support anything you just aid there.
We have another one here guys. Did you buy a 2+2 account on the darkweb? There's no one here that believes BD is guilty or even involved in TH murder. Not even the biggest book selling Manitowoc LE shill ITT thinks BD should be in jail. Well beyond that, you actually believe he committed rape? Speaking of no evidence to support anything said by anyone regarding BD's involvement of rape and murder....

I'm gonna skip the pleasantries and evolution of the communication rituals and go straight to berating and then ignoring.

You've got to be a complete idiot to come in here NOW swinging hard for the fences that BD is guilty of anything at all aside from being not-too-bright and easily coerced into saying whatever he needs to return to 5th period english and WWF. Save the typing, your stupid arguments already have the hallmark of a pure shill or obtuse idiot - either way you come across as annoying.

GTFO
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11-16-2016 , 06:11 PM
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Wasn't our daughter or sister or lover or friend chained to that bed, pleading with Dassey to do the right thing only to have him rape and mutilate her instead
Nope. Didn't happen. Did you watch the documentary?
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11-16-2016 , 06:13 PM
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some dumbass judge
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(+2 if you want to count both Willis and Fox)
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11-16-2016 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Nope. Didn't happen. Did you watch the documentary?
Did you read Dassey's interrogation transcripts and do you think "the documentary" should supersede them?
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11-16-2016 , 06:17 PM
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People never cease to amaze me, throwing their logic, reason and common sense out the window
I know right? Like just use logic, how could either of them been convicted of this? If he raped and murdered her and cut her throat and hair and punched her, should her DNA be everywhere in that trailer? Shouldnt HIS DNA be anywhere within 100 yards of the Avery property? Well neither his nor her DNA was found anywhere ever to support anything they have been accused of.
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11-16-2016 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
+ 1

(+2 if you want to count both Willis and Fox)
Honest question: Do you truly think Duffin is justified in ruling Dassey's confession as involuntary? If so, why? Specifically?
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11-16-2016 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Did you read Dassey's interrogation transcripts and do you think "the documentary" should supersede them?
Yes, I read the transcripts. I also watched the actual interrogations and listened to the ones not on film. Just use logic and common sense. You can't CLEARLY hand feed the kid answers, then magically make evidence appear to support the answers you just told him to say. That **** don't fly and a Magistrate agrees. Tick Tock...
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11-16-2016 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Honest question: Do you truly think Duffin is justified in ruling Dassey's confession as involuntary? If so, why? Specifically?
Honest answer: This aint kiddie game. You think we haven't been JAQed off before? Go JAQ yourself off you shilltard.
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11-16-2016 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
I know right? Like just use logic, how could either of them been convicted of this? If he raped and murdered her and cut her throat and hair and punched her, should her DNA be everywhere in that trailer? Shouldnt HIS DNA be anywhere within 100 yards of the Avery property? Well neither his nor her DNA was found anywhere ever to support anything they have been accused of.
No, Ian Huntley murdered two girls in his home and no trace of them were found there. He was still convicted. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence and both were cleaning up the place anyway.
You seem to think that because a crime didn't occur the way you expected it to occur, it therefore couldn't have occurred and that's not how it works, sorry.
DNA isn't required for a conviction, long before DNA profiling & testing was invented, people were still convicted for crimes such as rape and murder.
Gary Heinz Jnr slaughtered eight people in a cramped trailer home via bludgeoning and left none of his DNA at the cs.
In my country Mark Nash committed two double murders by stabbing and bludgeoning and mutilating the victims and left none of his DNA at either crime scene.
Dassey and Avery aren't special and don't get the burden of proof bar raised just for them.
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11-16-2016 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Yes, I read the transcripts. I also watched the actual interrogations and listened to the ones not on film. Just use logic and common sense. You can't CLEARLY hand feed the kid answers, then magically make evidence appear to support the answers you just told him to say. That **** don't fly and a Magistrate agrees. Tick Tock...
Great so you should have zero problems citing via the interrogation page transcripts precisely where this hand feeding occur, specifically about the sweat leg irons/handcuffs, Avery's .22 and Dassey claiming that Teresa was shot through the left side of the head. page numbers will be grand thanks so whenever you're ready mate. Truth is easy to defend and indeed invigorating. So defend it. Cite the page numbers where this occurs. Thanks in advance.
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11-16-2016 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Honest answer: This aint kiddie game. You think we haven't been JAQed off before? Go JAQ yourself off you shilltard.
No idea wtf "Jaqued" even means and only one I see shilling here is you for a rapist. Now... can you defend Duffin's ruling or are you gonna waffle some more? Doesn't say much for your case for innocence if it's the latter option is all. Now back up your sh**e or stfu with your shilling for nonces.
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11-16-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
No, Ian Huntley murdered two girls in his home and no trace of them were found there. He was still convicted. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence and both were cleaning up the place anyway.
You seem to think that because a crime didn't occur the way you expected it to occur, it therefore couldn't have occurred and that's not how it works, sorry.
DNA isn't required for a conviction, long before DNA profiling & testing was invented, people were still convicted for crimes such as rape and murder.
Gary Heinz Jnr slaughtered eight people in a cramped trailer home via bludgeoning and left none of his DNA at the cs.
In my country Mark Nash committed two double murders by stabbing and bludgeoning and mutilating the victims and left none of his DNA at either crime scene.
Dassey and Avery aren't special and don't get the burden of proof bar raised just for them.
Ian Huntley had over 2 weeks to tidy a crime scene and as for the other two it's very easy to cover your own DNA if you are careful enough but were they able to hide their victims DNA?

I mean a women gets her throat cut stabbed and raped while handcuffed to a bed a noting in the room not even cleaning products used just a bleach stain on one of BD jeans.
I mean you have to use common sense every now and again.

FFS her DNA was not even on her car keys a you fkn kidding me.
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11-16-2016 , 06:47 PM
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No idea wtf "Jaqued" even means and only one I see shilling here is you for a rapist. Now... can you defend Duffin's ruling or are you gonna waffle some more? Doesn't say much for your case for innocence if it's the latter option is all. Now back up your sh**e or stfu with your shilling for nonces.
Pretty sure its been done in this thread. Have you read the whole thing?

Has 404 hacked your account?
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11-16-2016 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Dassey hasn't been exonerated, his conviction has been provisionally overturned.
Please read my post again ty.

Also everyone itt has the halbach family in there hearts, we wish them well moving forward and hope they receive the appropriate support moving forward, god bless them.
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11-16-2016 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
No one said Dassey was exonerated. The reference was to a PREVIOUSLY exonerated citizen aka Steven Avery.
Thanks
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11-16-2016 , 07:21 PM
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Yeah with the "PREVIOUS" intimating that Dassey is the "next" exoneree...
Nope, that's just wrong.
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11-16-2016 , 07:39 PM
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Wasn't our daughter or sister or lover or friend chained to that bed, pleading with Dassey to do the right thing only to have him rape and mutilate her
There is no evidence to support that TH was chained to the bed or raped. SA was not guilty of mutilation and wasn't even tried on rape.

You are putting far too much weight on confessions. As I mentioned, over 50 people confessed to carrying out the "Yogurt Shop Murders". Why aren't all those people in jail?

If confessions were all that mattered, that would be the entire trial.
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11-16-2016 , 07:40 PM
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Great so you should have zero problems citing via the interrogation page transcripts precisely where this hand feeding occur, specifically about the sweat leg irons/handcuffs, Avery's .22 and Dassey claiming that Teresa was shot through the left side of the head. page numbers will be grand thanks so whenever you're ready mate. Truth is easy to defend and indeed invigorating. So defend it. Cite the page numbers where this occurs. Thanks in advance.
All the information required to you is ITT laid out by 2/3 posters who were kind enough to give there time to do so....


Also can you ( as I'm not a judge, never mind. Magistrate) tell me in your own words why magistrate Duffin is wrong, ty.
And 1 more thing from you, can YOU provide 1 piece of factual hard evidence that supports BD conviction, thanks?
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11-16-2016 , 07:51 PM
SA bedroom, trailer & garage had NOT been cleaned in months as you can see in the walk through videos and photos, BD's DNA was never found in any of those places & nor was TH's....but you know better CV, dust they replaced all the dust.
What pisses me of is that SA has more respect for the Halbachs that LE will ever have.... #Bobcat
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11-16-2016 , 08:52 PM
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He's not going anywhere just yet and they do indeed deserve condolences over some dumbass judge who stretched the definition of involuntary way past its breaking point. Dassey's actual sentence doesn't sit right with me due to his youth at the time but he's guilty of rape and complicit in murder. He mentioned the rape in an earlier interrogation iirc.
His confession is supported by evidence and he knew info without being prompted.He was in no way coerced, they even explain what an admission against interest is to him, ffs.
But hey Wrestlemania poor kid blah waffle drone. Wasn't our daughter or sister or lover or friend chained to that bed, pleading with Dassey to do the right thing only to have him rape and mutilate her instead, so such unpleasant facts and images can be put from our heads as such things disrupt the Feelgood Narrative about witch hunts and wrongful convictions and how the poor kid should go to WrestleMania and be compensated gazillions. Facts? Who needs 'em?
People never cease to amaze me, throwing their logic, reason and common sense out the window just cuz they watch a deceptive Netflix doco.
I can only imagine the amount of scummy losers currently doing life without trying desperately to contact documentary filmmakers so people like you can swallow the kool aid and decide that facts and evidence are what you say they are, long as it feels right, yeah?
People are stupid .
Surprised at this.

There is zero evidence against Dassey. Zero.

The victim was never in Avery's house, never chained to a bed, not raped. This is a classic example of a coerced confession.
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11-16-2016 , 09:07 PM
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How so? Are you seriously saying with a straight face that you haven't engaged in repetition and rehashing of issues already covered?
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Surprised at this.

There is zero evidence against Dassey. Zero.
I hope he can take his own advice.....
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11-16-2016 , 10:01 PM
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Hi Oski,
I haven't gone through all the thread but have you read Duffin's ruling? Do you think he's justified in ruling the confession involuntary and are his citations aptly comparable?
I read it awhile back, but did not study it (I focus mostly on civil matters - so anything related to criminal law generally requires me to find time to look into it).

I do not recall thinking anything was out of order in the ruling based on my participation in this thread, etc. If the question is whether this judge's finding that there was a coerced confession is justified, I would lean heavily towards that being so. Because the ruling appeared to me as non controversial on that subject (of course, controversial in its effect given the circumstances of the case) I did not really pay it much attention.
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11-16-2016 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
LOL. "Misinformation"? Brendan Dassey is about to be released after being wrongfully accused, tried, convicted and imprisoned for 11 years...all based on an entire law enforcement agency's massive spew fest of pure lies, coercion, fabricated and falsified records and evidence, and straight up corruption.

And you talkin' 'bout birthdays.
I am not the one that brought it up, and yes. It is a total misrepresntation of facts to pretend like one guy just guessed her password.

I don't have much to say about BD, I think that he has done enough time for his participation in TH murder. If he would have accepted the plea deal offered to him he would have been out a year ago. Now he will be released and retried and likely find himself in the same situation. Unless of course he accepts a plea deal this time around.
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11-16-2016 , 10:29 PM
That also isn't why he is being released. But whatever.. Its moot at this point. You don't care if you are wrong or why you are wrong.
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