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That skillz and Fraley think it's absurd other suspects should have been investigated and people thinking so are the conspiracy nuts is just too good.

why investigate a guy who attacked his wife with a axe(who was seen on the crime seen and went crazy about at that time) when you can prosecute a guy who killed a cat 20 years before

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02-05-2016 , 10:49 AM

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Ya, dont worry though. Daily mail is on the case with their top notch investigative reporting!

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02-05-2016 , 10:55 AM

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Well, investigations can be tricky, I'll try to explain:

On one hand, Steven was the last known person to see her, his and her blood was in her Rav4 on his property, her bones were in his pit and her key in his room, and cops were interviewing and running DNA on everyone who lives on the property.

On the other hand, some guy with no association to Teresa attacked his family with an ax.

(I'm fully expecting comments about the evidence being planted, starting the cycle once again, but I'll be sitting this one out.)

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02-05-2016 , 11:12 AM

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Yeah imagine trying to look for someone with actual motive. The level of investigation that would require is unimaginable.

It's not like they didn't pick a suspect for rape, exclude all other suspects or options, and wrongly jail some dude for 18 years in the recent past or anything.

lol poorskillz

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02-05-2016 , 11:15 AM

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That skillz and Fraley think it's absurd other suspects should have been investigated and people thinking so are the conspiracy nuts is just too good.

Other suspects were investigated.. No, you are right, I think we should be looking into the "windmill theory" precious tax dollars could not be spent in a better place.

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02-05-2016 , 11:16 AM

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Other suspects were investigated.. .

link? I mean other than Avery family.

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02-05-2016 , 11:18 AM

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Do you think whoever killed TH, cut up her body and burned her had any motive besides being a ****ed up individual? It wasn't like she was killed in a rage, whoever did this clearly has some serious mental issues.

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02-05-2016 , 11:20 AM

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link? I mean other than Avery family.

What do you mean? Everbody that lived on the salvage yard had their dna taken. Also, i you listen to the initial interviews it is clear they treated everyone on that property like suspects.

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02-05-2016 , 11:21 AM

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link? I mean other than Avery family.

Why would they investigate anyone other than the avery family? Who else had access to his yard with the capability to dump her bones on his property without anyone noticing?

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02-05-2016 , 11:22 AM

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Oh thats right

#ededwardsdidit

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02-05-2016 , 11:28 AM

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Fraley gets another well deserved el oh el

Strawman.jpg

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02-05-2016 , 11:30 AM

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great perspective on nancy grace : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6yOhFeitnvM

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02-05-2016 , 11:31 AM

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I like that Fraley and skillz cry and cry and cry about their positions being misrepresented and people being meanies to them on the Internet but I simply ask for a link to the other people investigated you know because I'm trying to learn and stuff and get ridiculed by Fraley about some "ededwards" person.

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02-05-2016 , 11:42 AM

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If you're trying to learn, I've provided several links ITT, including links to the transcripts.

However, IMO the only thing you and many others are trying to learn is who besides Steven killed her.

Which is like trying to learn what number besides 4 that 2+2 is equal to. "Why haven't they investigated number 683?" "Number 872 is divisible by 2+2. Why wasn't it investigated if 2+2 =872???"

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02-05-2016 , 11:45 AM

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Why would they investigate anyone other than the avery family? Who else had access to his yard with the capability to dump her bones on his property without anyone noticing?

Getting into the Avery property isn't like breaking into Fort Knox.

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02-05-2016 , 11:45 AM

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lmao

prana: Why weren't other people investigated?

fraley: they were

prana: link? I'd like to read it.

fraley: lol you believe other people (#EDEDWARDS?) did it (strawman)

poorskillz: <continues strawman> with a healthy dose of "READ THE TRANSCRIPTS HURR DURR"

You two are two peas in a pod.

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02-05-2016 , 11:47 AM

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No, you are not trying to learn. You enjoy thinking there was a massive cover up here because you think it is more interesting than what actually happened. And why would I provide you a link when you agree with me? I told you they didn't investigate anyone outside the family once they knew where her body was. Why would they? Do you think it is normal to not narrow down suspects during an investigation?

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02-05-2016 , 11:48 AM

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No, I think they should have investigated other people like they didn't do when Avery went to jail for rape. Therefore, I don't think the investigation was thorough and proper. That doesn't mean I am convinced that someone else did it, just that the police work was improper and shoddy.

please learn basic logic.

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02-05-2016 , 11:49 AM

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Other suspects were investigated.. No, you are right, I think we should be looking into the "windmill theory" precious tax dollars could not be spent in a better place.

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link? I mean other than Avery family.

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What do you mean? Everbody that lived on the salvage yard had their dna taken. Also, i you listen to the initial interviews it is clear they treated everyone on that property like suspects.

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Why would they investigate anyone other than the avery family? Who else had access to his yard with the capability to dump her bones on his property without anyone noticing?

... this is actually how the conversation took place.. I through the ed edwards thing in after this just to point out how ridiculous this whole thing has become..

But I did answer your question.. Pretty sad when you misrepresent me on the same page.

el oh el.. as you say.

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02-05-2016 , 11:50 AM

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You dismissing them investigating other people because it is hard to dump stuff on their property is the definition of el oh el. Dood......you need a break i think.

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02-05-2016 , 11:52 AM

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Who else should have been investigated once her body was located at the avery salvage? Who else should have been a suspect iyo? Are you suggesting their time and effort should have been used elsewhere other than her last known location and where her body was located?

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02-05-2016 , 11:56 AM

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Hint for aspiring killer: Dump the body on someone else's property - they will never suspect you.

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02-05-2016 , 11:56 AM

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You dismissing them investigating other people because it is hard to dump stuff on their property is the definition of el oh el. Dood......you need a break i think.

Omg,

Please use your critical thinking skills for one second.

They begin questioning everyone that could be potential suspects, friends, family, ex bfs, roomate, co workers etc...

Then they start to learn stuff, IE: Where her last phone call took place, where her last meeting was, stuff she said about avery etc..

Then they start to question the avery's they find inconsistencies in some of their stories

Then they discover her bones are on the property,

Her rav4 is on the property

her blood is in the rav 4

his blood is in the rav 4

At this point.. There should only be one suspect.

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02-05-2016 , 11:58 AM

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Hint for aspiring killer: Dump the body on someone else's property - they will never suspect you.

They should focus their energy and time on where the body was located. Especially if someone owns the property.. And guess what, it worked! They were able to find tons of evidence leading them to the murderer. If they found no evidence after searching then yes, they should start exploring the possibility someone could have killed her and dumped her there.