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06-09-2010 , 05:56 AM
Perhaps in season 4 we will learn more of how Gus rose to power, as Walt wrestles that power away from him.
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06-09-2010 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
No more half measures.
that monologue was so sweet
06-09-2010 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thatpfunk
gus is the producer of the drugs. he has become the largest supplier of meth in the southwest US. he is much, much higher than either stringer or avon (and prop joe for that matter) and makes significantly more money. the greek is a flawed example because he was also an importer, but he is the closest comparison between the two shows.

they havent handled the details of gus all that well, unfortunately, but i really dont find it to be much of a detractor of the show. there have always been small flaws like this in breaking bad but i really dont think theyre worth getting hung up on, its a great show.
But he is also micro managing and not wholesaleing in the quantities the Greek did from what we know.
He is producing, thats true, but he is also managing on street level, so I guess we cant put him in a category.
06-09-2010 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by savant111
+1, Just wanted to add that he windshield of the Aztek has symbolized the state of Walt's life all season. This episode (in walt jr driving scene) we saw it was held together with tape...lol
ha, i was actually kinda nitting up over seeing that. He had the windshield replaced a while ago. We can assume at least a week ago on show time, probably closer to 2 or 3 weeks, maybe even a month. You can take the tape off your new windshield after a few days.
06-09-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by blankoblanco
add me to the list of "that ending was so badass awesome that i don't even care if it was a little bit unrealistic". if some perceived implausibility was enough to ruin your enjoyment of that amazing sequence, and all the build up to it, then i don't know what to tell you -- you may be taking the wrong approach to living?
same. Part of me stopped to think afterward, "wait, was that as stupid as the S2 finale?", but then I went with my initial reaction of, "holy crap that was amazing."
06-09-2010 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SnotBoogy
Some irl gangsta watches the wire and calls BS prolly
ha, prob true. Klosterman said something similar on a Simmons podcast.. they were talking TV and he said, "my favorite thing about the wire was how real I thought it was. Then season 5 came along and depicted what it's like working at a major newspaper, and I've worked at a major newspaper, and it wasn't that realistic. So it's made me re-think how realistic all the street level stuff is."

fairly interesting.
06-09-2010 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by goborage
I think the thugs would be too scared to kill the kid without Gus' permission.

Gus using the meeting to appease Walter and using the kid's death to get rid of Jesse seems like a Machiavellian play right up his alley.
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Originally Posted by DC11GTR
I never considered that. Pretty obvious then that Gus "ordered" the kid to get killed.
i considered that, but I got the impression from the meeting that Gus was surprised that kids were even involved. So the dealers weren't too scared to operate on their own and employ the kid.

they're idiot street level dealer thugs. they could have definitely killed the kid without Gus's permission. Hell, they could have just thought that's what he meant when he said "no more kids".
06-09-2010 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kap arai
i'm predicting that jr has to drive skylers car with the touchy breaks for his driving test and that causes him to have an accident and die. 1 time!
right into walt's pool!
06-09-2010 , 07:15 AM
grunch: so this show must be decent?
06-09-2010 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
grunch: so this show must be decent?
Very.
06-09-2010 , 08:16 AM
It's great.
06-09-2010 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
But he is also micro managing and not wholesaleing in the quantities the Greek did from what we know.
He is producing, thats true, but he is also managing on street level, so I guess we cant put him in a category.
Until this past episode we had zero reason to believe he was micromanaging though. And weren't you one of the people constantly talking about how his blue meth was everywhere but ABQ, and now you're saying he's been micromanaging in ABQ the whole time?

Also, Gus seems to be pushing more weight than the greek did regarding meth vs heroine. Though the Greek was also into sex trafficking and most likely other things.

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
ha, i was actually kinda nitting up over seeing that. He had the windshield replaced a while ago. We can assume at least a week ago on show time, probably closer to 2 or 3 weeks, maybe even a month. You can take the tape off your new windshield after a few days.
Jesus christ learn to multiquote. Guess that's how someone gets 38k posts.
06-09-2010 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
ha, i was actually kinda nitting up over seeing that. He had the windshield replaced a while ago. We can assume at least a week ago on show time, probably closer to 2 or 3 weeks, maybe even a month. You can take the tape off your new windshield after a few days.
the best was he had to get it replaced 2x
06-09-2010 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DC11GTR
I never considered that. Pretty obvious then that Gus "ordered" the kid to get killed.
Not so fast, my friend. My guess was that the kid got told he's outta the game, and went postal on the guys, and they had to shoot him. The kid wanted to be in it. He liked it. Or at least he was so manipulated he was ready to kill again to be in it. I just don't see Gus ordering a murder on a kid. He does seem like he has some kind of rules, however twisted they might be.

Also, if he did kill the kid, and jesse found out, that would be two people Jesse lost to Gus. Jesse isn't above getting stupid revenge on Gus, it's not like it would be hard to walk into Pollos and waste his ass, he doesn't have Stringer/Avon security.
06-09-2010 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
grunch: so this show must be decent?
way better than decent, better than almost everything else at the current time. Not to hype it so you dont like it but its just so good.
06-09-2010 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
"Run"

don't know about anyone else, but i totally had an "OMGWTFBBQ" reaction to this scene.
wtf why is the image mirrored?
06-09-2010 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DirDirDirty
Until this past episode we had zero reason to believe he was micromanaging though. And weren't you one of the people constantly talking about how his blue meth was everywhere but ABQ, and now you're saying he's been micromanaging in ABQ the whole time?

Also, Gus seems to be pushing more weight than the greek did regarding meth vs heroine. Though the Greek was also into sex trafficking and most likely other things.
First point, yes I always said that he didnt sell in ABQ, and I wasnt the first one to be surprised that he did in fact sell in ABQ.
I didnt say that he micro manage before this episode. But since he clearly cared about some street level thugs, I got the impression that he is more involved in street level slinging than I formerly thought.

The greek was a completely different player. He was involved in a lot of illegal activities and didnt care about street level action.

But as I said above, I dont think you can really come to an agreement on this.
06-09-2010 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
First point, yes I always said that he didnt sell in ABQ, and I wasnt the first one to be surprised that he did in fact sell in ABQ.
I didnt say that he micro manage before this episode. But since he clearly cared about some street level thugs, I got the impression that he is more involved in street level slinging than I formerly thought.

The greek was a completely different player. He was involved in a lot of illegal activities and didnt care about street level action.

But as I said above, I dont think you can really come to an agreement on this.
The Greek's guys handled Cheese for the car incident. Isn't this comparable to that? Hardly any micromanaging, but when suppliers have a problem he steps in to handle things himself rather than leaving it up to someone else.
06-09-2010 , 12:28 PM
I enjoyed the moment where Skylar was reading about money laundering on wikipedia, made me chuckle.
06-09-2010 , 12:33 PM
whos skylar
06-09-2010 , 12:43 PM
that moaning woman who considers her Walts wife.

Its Skyler?
06-09-2010 , 12:52 PM
you probly mean zsqilarh
06-09-2010 , 01:02 PM
Apart from the attention to "Run" in that final scene, the thing that stuck out for me was the horrified look on the Hapless Jesse Pinkman's face. There he was, the stone cold killer, probably with the safety on, probably about to fumble his piece. Walt takes care of business, making that the 47th murder or so that Jesse has been on the periphery of, and the look of shock, terror, horror is kind of funny. Jesse thinks he is a murderer and he isn't. Walt thinks he isn't, and is.
06-09-2010 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shemp
Apart from the attention to "Run" in that final scene, the thing that stuck out for me was the horrified look on the Hapless Jesse Pinkman's face. There he was, the stone cold killer, probably with the safety on, probably about to fumble his piece.
Definitely.

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Walt takes care of business, making that the 47th murder or so that Jesse has been on the periphery of, and the look of shock, terror, horror is kind of funny.
Plus the effect of their product, he really pulled that off well. Total shock and disbelief, he even probably thought he was walking into death there, but didn't care because he was at the end of his rope. Probably difficult for him to tell if it was real or not.

Good post.

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Jesse thinks he is a murderer and he isn't. Walt thinks he isn't, and is.
True. I think they were alluding to this in the scene at the bar where Jesse was telling Walt about his plan. I think Walt's line is "You're not a murderer", before he tries to correct himself and say "We're not murderers", if he really believes that. I think he knows Jesse isn't, which is part of the reason he rushes out to save him.

Also, what's the significance, if any, of the two craziest scenes in the show's history being preceded by meetings at a bar? Walt "never does that", and at this point should probably stop going to bars, only bad can come of it, lol.
06-09-2010 , 01:26 PM
It also goes back to the first episode of the season, when Walt says "Who are you?" and Jesse goes "I'm the bad guy." Sorry, Walt, you're the bad guy too.
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