epic walter.. cant wait for the finale

No I'm pretty sure Walt saves Jesse here because he thinks Jesse is family.

I think he actually just really hates mexicans

Some surprising things:
1) Walt saying all sorts of incriminating things over the phone these days
2) Gus was always portrayed as a guy who went to great lengths to preserve his cover - the Volvo wagon, the legit businesses, etc. - he's really meeting with these street level people directly? Is this just due to the fact that he cut out the cartel and now has to vertically integrate to get involved at that level, or was he always involved that much? i was under the impression that he was strictly a high-level, high volume wholesaler earlier.
3) There's nothing going on at the DEA now that Hank's out? Really?

4) Are we really supposed to believe that none of the characters on this show never saw The Wire? Maybe a basic vs. premium cable inferiority complex thing.

(Aside - read David Simon's book Homicide recently - for any big Wire fans, it is definitely worth reading. A ton of the stories from the show came from the stories he witnessed in a year spent imbedded with the Baltimore homicide unit.)

Don't get me wrong, I love the show. But it seems like poor writing to be sloppy about these details that would be nailed down by people who fit the exacting, cautious profiles we've been given of both Walt and Gus.

are you serious with #4? lol

Not entirely serious, but you'd think some of these things would be criminal stay out of jail 101 stuff.

Very well put. I agree completely with everything u said. The show is great and all, but; The one thing keeping it from being completely flawless is the fact that the guys portrayed as "criminal masterminds" are making sloppy mistakes. I know that if there was no mistake there would be no drama, but i mean beyond that. The mistakes they do make are to basic to fit into the "mastermind" persona. It seems far fetched that Gus (especially-since he stayed under the radar his whole life) and Walt would make sloppy and impulsive gangster-type mistakes that fit much more into Tuco's character. This is the only thing that is a bit off about the show imo.

1)Can you give some examples? I couldn't think of anything.
2)Honestly, this surprised me, too. I didn't think Gus would deal with them on a normal basis, and I still think it's likely Gus was only present because Walt and Jesse's involvement necessitate him.
3)I mean, I'm sure the DEA still operates normally, but none of our main characters are there right now. The DEA is surely not following Jesse around, as we've discussed already.
4)I think they only have one channel, and it only shows Jeopardy! and the news.

I can understand thinking this with Gus-- although, even though he's been successfully in the business for over 20 years, he is in uncharted territory now as well, so I also understand him making mistakes-- but Walt has shown to be very impulsive throughout the series.

the wire is a realistic depiction of baltimore and all its inter-workings. breaking bad is a drama about a man rising in the crime ladder. completely different types of show so no point comparing the two.

regardless, stringer bell often met with his street crews to micromanage so i don't see the argument.

Some irl gangsta watches the wire and calls BS prolly

Bryan Cranston on Kimmel Tonight for anyone interested.

With Hank out of the hospital now, I'd like to see him find out in the finale that Walt has been paying his bills. The card-playing scene where Marie asks Junior if he's been learning from his Dad was great.

Junior plays an underrated and under-appreciated role in the series. I always liked him ever since he said, "just ****ing die!"

because gus is the greek, not stringer.

Hmmm perhaps I'm being cold hearted but I can't see how killing the kid would really make Jesse angry in real life. I mean it's a sad situation and all but the kid also murdered one of his good friends, and showed absolutely no remorse. In fact, the kid was bragging about the murder. He was destined to grow up to be a pos thug, and would probably end up killing more people.

No, Gus is a mix of Avon and Stringer, he is actually nothing like the Greek (going from a job point of view).

Watch the episode where Jesse 1st hooks up with his sister again. He freaks out just because she wants to get high when her kid will be home within a few hours. Jesse does nor blame the kid for the murder, he realizes Tomas is nothing more than a pawn being pushed into action by it's master and how it affects the families of the people involved.

i'm pretty sure gus had nothing to do with the killing. feels more like a thug mentality behind it. "we hate being told what to do so here's a **** you for making us get rid of the kid." gus intervened in the first place so jesse wouldn't do something stupid, why instigate it?

gus is the producer of the drugs. he has become the largest supplier of meth in the southwest US. he is much, much higher than either stringer or avon (and prop joe for that matter) and makes significantly more money. the greek is a flawed example because he was also an importer, but he is the closest comparison between the two shows.

they havent handled the details of gus all that well, unfortunately, but i really dont find it to be much of a detractor of the show. there have always been small flaws like this in breaking bad but i really dont think theyre worth getting hung up on, its a great show.

At the very least he wouldn't have objected if he knew what the corner guys were gonna do. Chances are though that he knew exactly what would happen when he said "no kids", and what Jesse's likely reaction would be. He was gambling that his experienced street thugs would take Jesse out. As I said earlier he took the "half measure" of relying on someone else to do his killing for him, while Walt took the "full measure" of protecting Jesse himself.

I think the thugs would be too scared to kill the kid without Gus' permission.

Gus using the meeting to appease Walter and using the kid's death to get rid of Jesse seems like a Machiavellian play right up his alley.

I never considered that. Pretty obvious then that Gus "ordered" the kid to get killed.

i'm predicting that jr has to drive skylers car with the touchy breaks for his driving test and that causes him to have an accident and die. 1 time!