The good answer they already been advertising hard on social media that an overall 600k has been won and now that it has reached a million in total payout. Seems one trick pony strategy to get more paying players. There is another game in town called the lottery which says you can become a millionaire overnight it can be found at - www.lotto.com

I will not expect them to lower down the entry fee for 10k GPP to £2, they will eventually hike it to £10 and it still will not fill. Maybe in 2016 they will listen to customer feedback and have a smooth fun product with the rough edges polished off. Thought the paying customer feedback was valued in DFS. Maybe not from what you see across the board.

Not totally sure why people dislike Mondo so much here. Don't get me wrong, I am not affiliated with them in any kind of shape or form, but at least they offer big contests in the UK and proper money has been won on this site by some UK players.

At the same time, DK decided to spit again in the face of their future UK customers with a poor press release that gives us absolutely no clue what's going on with their UK ambitions.

As for the small sites, most of them are basically a joke. I asked all of them what were their plans re late swaps, and none of them gave me a proper answer. Talk about customer services

Mondogoal is solid but I've grown sour on their scoring since they nerfed fouls. Also insanely hard and time consuming to put in volume for cash games. Just don't have the time to balance managing lineups on two sites.

really disagree with deathorglory that 8 isnt optimal. When you're playing for free, having to choose 11 players and 3-4 are complete punts due to a salary based system it's ok. But if you're playing for money as a rec player, you want picking a lineup to be fun. You want to be picking dudes who can actually score or assist. Once you choose Aguero or Sanchez in an 11 player system, the rest of your team will largely be scrubs. What rec player wants to choose the Norwich RB then get screwed because he doesn't cross enough?

Garrincha, the FPL has that many players because it's on the main EPL site and it's free. It sucks as a non free product.

The FPL games has paid monthly and seasonal game for £5 entry fee which they started two seasons ago. The monthly has a £1k prize and seasonal winner takes all £25k prize.

The number for the paying players as of today is - Total Players 23,607.

That is impressive and total combined entry fee's is - £118,035 and if you subtract total prizes of £35k. It leaves them just in December with net profit of £83k that will rise as the season does progress.

No UK DFS sites can boast of that many paying unique customers neither that sort of profit margin. Good luck to them in getting these players to try DFS.

So basically you're saying season long soccer is played for peanuts while DFS is played for big time money, but you also think that they won't be interested in DFS?

Does MG have commercials and stuff in the UK? Do they advertise at all?

No adverts and commercials be it in newspapers, magazines or TV. They do sponsored adds on FB and other affiliate sites online.

Let me quote a writer on fantasy backers forum who nailed it on the head:


"Bournemouth beat United, Newcastle beat Spurs, WBA draw at Liverpool, Leicester beat the Champions; just another normal week in the prem. How the hell are we supposed to account for all of that when picking our DFF teams?! I suppose selecting over 20 teams is one way of doing it but I’m covering old ground there But just in case you missed it (!), new players are attracted by large pots but they are soon turned away by having to compete with managers who have the resource to enter multiple teams. At the moment the industry is catering for the latter and not the former. You can see why, the latter are providing a significant proportion of their income but it is unsustainable. If the industry wants to grow, attracting new players is only half the battle. All the radio adverts and marketing in the world won’t make them stay once they realise the game is stacked against them, I know because I speak regularly with a few managers who are interested in transitioning from season long but are fed up of being blitzed out of the water. There is a place for both types of player, the industry needs to accept that and improve it’s offer."

Do any sites offer a mass player change? (swap a player in all your line ups by just doing one change). I appreciate that sometimes this wont work as it may take you over 4 players from one team in some teams or even over the budget.

An example of this from earlier in the season where this function might have been useful, was with the Chelsea defence. I had Ivanovic in x amount of teams and Zouma was starting in his place. It would have saved me a bunch of time to just be able to mass swap Ivanovic with Zouma who were both similarly priced at start of season.

I don't think you or the guy who posted that understands DFS. There already is many ways to play DFS, not just massive GPPs that allow tons of entries and require contrarian plays to win.

edit: @ Garrincha

All the real sites have this already.

I would suggest that converting 23,600 players to the paid version of FPL is a pretty poor effort tbh given that there are over 3.6 million players in the free game.

I confirm that the guy who posted that do not understand DFS. He has a v good content site but he should refrain posting such things considering that he has had v little success in small gpps as well. The other guy from the site is top class though

I still believe that 2016 will be the year when DFS takes off in the UK. Tons of big guys will come (DK or not) and will have some good marketing budgets for the Euro and new 16/17 season.

I have to side with the people saying DFS will get big in the UK too, sorry Garrincha.
Yes UFPL has only 23,600 people, I think this is because:
1. They advertised UFPL awfully & too late, think it was only on the FPL website.
2. You have to pay so much attention, swapping players in at least 3 times a week, after the sat fix ends, after the sun fix ends, and obviously after the mon for next week.
3. Its season long again.
4. That is all for a different market to Daily Fantasy anyway. Instead of going down the bookies to stick on an acca you stick £5 on a daily fantasy team, and cheer them on all weekend - even if one player lets you down you can still win, unlike an acca.

If they just change the normal FPL to £5 entry I'm very confident they would easily get 100k+ players, but again thats different to DFS. Already 3 of my friends have signed up to mondogoal and prefer doing that now to accas, when we're down the pub watching 3pm kick offs, and these guys are not Poker/strategy people, and have said to me they prefer the sweat of daily fantasy sports.
Theres been nearly no advertising for daily fantasy in the UK, which will come I'd think, given the amount of Bet 365/Paddy Power adverts there are every game at HT on TV etc, there is so much money in gambling in the UK, and DFS will in the future grow to take a certain cut of that.

Looks like DK switched 50/50s to double ups - any rationale? (besides the obvious rake hike)

Here we go, basically nobody knows if DFS will be a success or not here in the UK as no one has advertised it yet. But early signs are positive IMO

Lol dfs will crush super hard in uk. Dk tends to go ham on big contests to attract players . If they are in the UK early next year I wouldn't be surprised if they have a massive (500k+ ) prize pool for the end of season contest.

So we will see how big it gets in the UK market, before the World Cup in Brazil just three DFS sites existed Totel Football since (2010) and Pick Live and Play On since (2012). We had a glut of news DFS sites since the Brazil World Cup in 2014, some quality but for the most part hit and miss.

I have played in all the sites be it seasonal or DFS. If any good one has missed my attention will be glad to now. So except DK, FD, football fanager and matchday fantasy all have gone live to play.

I see no reason to stop playing seasonal games which offer quality prizes. I will be delighted if DFS has appeal to a wider audience but for now it remains a niche product

Here are the weekend odds for the highest scoring players in the FPL game for game week 17. Interesting to see these markets being offered, Ighalo at 12/1 looks tempting.

So the odds on winning a GPP on any given weekend vs playing on this market ? You decide.

Highest Scoring Player - Listed Players Only - Prem Fantasy Football - Game Week 17

5/1

Costa (CHE)

11/2
Coutinho (LIV)

11/2
Mata (MUN)

11/2
Ozil (ARS)

13/2
Mahrez (LEI)

7/1
Lukaku (EVE)

10/1
Kane (TOT)

10/1
Sterling (MCI)

10/1
Vardy (LEI)

12/1
Ighalo (WAT)


This for the highest scoring bargain player.

9/2
Mahrez (LEI)

5/1
Lukaku (EVE)

13/2
Ayew (SWA)

13/2
Wijnaldum (NEW)

15/2
Gomis (SWA)

15/2
Vardy (LEI)

17/2
Cabaye (CRY)

17/2
Ighalo (WAT)

9/1
Rondon (WBA)

10/1
Carroll (WHU)

You are better comparing those bets above to 10 man tournaments, not GPPS because the return is more comparable.
GPPs are more comparable to accas where you are getting 100+ to 1. But you don't just get paid for first... And thats currently with Mondo, if you're on DK or Fanduel you can get like 5000/1+, not in the same bracket as betting on highest scorer thing. People aren't interested as much in little wins, its about boom or bust

Yes, we know how bookies love Accas's and how much value they offer to the punter. You do not get paid first for GPP contests of course, regardless it is still top heavy payout. Most weekend's one will be lucky to break even with cash positions. Twenty team buy-in's for the GPP is £100. Just ten team buy-in is £50. Go on a cold streak and in no time bankroll is busted.

My point is these markets hold greater appeal to the casual, newbie, fish or whatever they are called in DFS. Hence why Bet4the best have scrapped salary pricing and also offer this type of markets. For a new platform, they doing quiet well too.

anyone ever played on playon.co?? Is it any good?

Their biggest GPP is a £1k £5 that includes both of Sundays games and Mondays game too. It also tells you what % of teams a player is in.

Playon is good and actually one of the long-standing UK DFS site around. This is their third season and recently they been offering others sports (Cricket & NBA). Decent free-roll's as well to build bankroll for paid games.

The only aspect of their football game that needs improving is different formations. For now it is only 4-4-2. The ownership percentage is handy to have and helps in making a contrarian/differential pick.

Not played as regularly there this season. Will do so with these fixtures galore over the holiday season. Their champions league games have the softest games to win on European evenings.

ok ty for the info, gl this weekend. Am sure will see u 40 spots above me in the 10k on mondo

The fixed 4-4-2 on playon is a big drawback. They list way fewer players than mondo as F. They do single match tourneys, in which if you want to play two starting F you have litterally a single choice.

Also player prices are so low that salary cap is meaningless.

Agree Jean with your observation on the drawback of their game. In all the time I have played on UK DFS site's, just a handful have bothered to do a survey and customer feedback to improve their product & engage with the customer.

PlayOn rep did come in this forum to hear suggestions few months ago during the International break. For me the number one issue is having non-staring players and not being allowed to have tools to make changes. Playon have taken off the early kick-off game on Saturday, but still has issues like all the other sites.

Why call it daily fantasy game ? We might as well call it daily guess the manager/coaches thought process game. To the first UK DFS site that has a functional late swap tool, my money will go to them. Till then I play small stakes and risk nothing. This functionality is very long over due!