the white 9.5s are going for 800-900 on ebay.

limited edition baby.

I realize we're talking about something different, but doesn't it usually make sense to play for the front of the green?

If you can get it there!

i have the opposite problem, hit way too many approaches long...mid way through a round if i've hit a few approaches long i'll tell myself to take one club less than my brain tells me but even that doesn't help much.

So I got on a launch monitor and my driver backspin is about 2k rpms more than ideal according to the chart based on swing speed. This seems way too extreme to fix by changing shafts or equipment as I was using equipment that should at least be somewhat reasonable and the balls used were ProV1x's. The problem seems clear that I'm hitting the ball with a rather severely descending blow. Perhaps this also explains why I've generally been extremely good hitting driver off the deck in fairways.

I saw one web page mention some tips to lower driver backspin were to tee the ball higher and don't sole the club but hover it before beginning the swing. Anything else to do?

You want to hit the ball on the upper part of the face. It should launch high and flatline when done correctly. Fix your swing though if you are descending into it.

Just hitting it high on the face doesn't ensure you will have the right spin rates. You should be trying to hit the ball on the sweet spot and use technology to ensure the set up is right for your action. That is the best way to get consistent spin rates and flight. Hitting it high on the face for the knuckler creates a lot of variance in trajectory. I know what you are saying and agree it would probably be better than what he is doing, but it's not the absolute best way to hit it.

Agreed. I was just offering a way to knock some spin off right now, but that isn't the correct fix. I would not want to try hitting knucklers all day just to insure some type of proper launch and spin. Like you said, lot of variance in trajectory and balls can get away from you(well, me) very fast. Very erratic shot but a thing of beauty when hit perfectly.

Get a head/shaft combo that fits the bill when hit solid, and have the knuckler ready to roll for certain situations.

Spin is caused by the difference in angle of attack and vertical face angle. Period. The bigger that gap, the more spin. So someone who hits down on it while flipping it is going to spin the ever living crap out of it, because that gap is going to be huge. Like less say they are hitting down on it 3 degrees but are exposing 12 degrees of loft because they flip it, thats a 15 degree difference. Guys who hit low spin bombs hit within a degree of level AoA but also still have their hands in front of the ball meaning the face has less loft. So lets say 1 up AoA and 8 degrees of loft, difference is only 7.

Basically, guys with good golf swings, so not too steep and keep their hands in front of the ball hit it with low spin.

the Annika Invitational is here at reunion while i'm down here - there's nothing better than hitting at the range surrounded by teenage girls (giggity) who can destroy the ball straighter and farther than i could ever hope to on a regular basis

reunion resort grande estate villas are sick tho, courses are great and the disney course i played this morning (palm) was cool - playing the magnolia tomorrow then jetting back home to epic cold and wind

MBPig....I really don't own tis answer.....isn't there a gear effect of some sort? It isn't just a straight equation I think. Or is it "me thinks".

pm me for the answer to golf.

Make sure you bring enough for the whole class!

I like how I did that "pick to the back fringe" thing in my one tournament of the year and I hit the ball 45 yards over the green.

Then the next hole, I just go with the yardage to the flag, and it comes up 2 clubs short. I do stuff like that pretty much 100% of holes.

Not sure I understand your question (and to be honest, I am not an expert in this by any means, I just know enough to be dangerous). Hitting it higher on the face normally exposes more loft, and lower of the face less loft. That will affect spin rates.

I never can hit a low punch shot when I'm in trouble, how do you hit it? I know you have to hit it off your back foot, and typically I'll use like a 7 iron or less (less if I need to hit it lower), but it almost always goes too high.

keep your left wrist bowed more through impact

take a less lofted club

problem solved

I heard this on the golf channel the other day and realized I hit mine totally wrong. But I'm pretty good at punching out from a bad thick lie under trees.

I take a less lofted club (2i), put it up in my stance, put most weight on front foot, crouch down a bit more than normal and choke up like a half inch on the club to get my hands low and closer to the ground. I keep my hands extremely firm (since I'm usually hitting out of thick rough or branches) and swing with my pretty much all with my shoulders. I also keep my hands over the ball or in front of it at impact. I can usually keep these low, fairly straight, and hit them about a hundred yards and get back out on the fairway.

Again, this might be considered wrong form but I've always hit them like this and had good results. I can't possibly imagine hitting a 7i set in the back of my stance low enough to punch out from under trees. If I ever get good at golf maybe it'll work.

wow...i am leaving for the field for 4 weeks (may have limited comp access) went out on a tough course yesterday and shot 74. I felt like i was swinging like dick, but by far the best round in terms of not hitting any off the planet shots. the only bad one was a double fairway hole with ob left. but the left fairway is a1 pos. i was aiming for left fairway and missed about 60 yards right in the right fairway.

but it is safe to say golf is the best game. I said goodbye to not seeing my gf for a month this am, and it was no thing. But knowing i won';t swing a club for a month has me like seriously depressed.

Random story but for those of you who have read or remembered about how I got screwed over by the University of Cincinnati's golf coach a few summers ago. . .

Turns out that he name dropped me to some kid who applied for the same business program that I graduated from. Like it ain't no big deal and we are just jolly friends. The kid ended up applying for my program and name-dropped my name as an alumni.

Words can't put into context how tilting it is... especially considering the screwjob I got from that coach.

/rant

@UCB.. I think I'd rather play golf at a UC school (assuming that's where you plaed) then at Cincinatti.. Can you post a link to the story about what happened..

What's a UC school?

I just didn't play collegiate golf at all after that. Long-story... if I can't find (I'm 90% sure I wrote about it), I'll rewrite and post in here tonight.

Think he is refering to a Cal school. Which is what I was guessing. Think Pulp Fiction the UCSB Bannana Slug t-shirt.

Ah nope... I'm a Midwest boy.

Also medaugh, I'll ship you your monies back Tks for the tip tho