This is way, way off.

lol

They were definitely out of line. No where in golf etiquette must you actively look for the group behind to let them play through. If anything you were doing a favor to let them play through. Just be the better man and let them through and take slow breaths or take out your top flights and drill some drives into them.


Hitting drives into a party is probably THE most offensive thing you can do on the golf course. I don't know how you could put the blame on Kvitlekh.

So how are you supposed to play through if the group ahead isn't bound by etiquette (since when?) to look back to see if faster groups are playing?

You guys make it seem like playing through is a privilege. Slow groups that don't let people play through slow up the whole course, which is why playing through isn't just a nice thing to let faster groups do, it's mandatory.


I'm not saying Kvitlekh was doing anything wrong, because he didn't really give a detailed enough story to know. I'm speaking in general.

Sometimes I see weekend warriors playing way too fast. Just hacking it up and playing like they are trying to escape the police. I don't get that. I enjoy golf for a couple reasons, it's relaxing, and it's a fun challenge. So in either case it's not in my best interest to be rushing through. If these guys are just hiding from their wives for 4 (or 2.5 hours the way they play) hours why not just rip some range balls then hang out at a strip club or something? I just don't understand playing golf and rushing like it's a chore.

It's definitely a privilege. From the story he gave, he didn't do anything wrong and the group behind him definitely did by


1) hitting into them
2) not yelling fore
3) disturbing the group on the green
4) for being ahole's when confronted


Kvitlekh was the gentleman and it's not even close.

It's pretty simple: You can't.

Intentionally hitting into someone like that is NEVER justified. Ever. I don't care if the group in front of you is Satan plus three and they're on pace for a 27 hour round.

Hit the putting green tonight for the first time in a long time. Worked on my new stroke and noticed much better results. First shot at lagging from 20 feet and I hit all 10 balls within 3' of the hole, and distance wise, there was only a 2'-6" difference between my shortest putt and longest. So basically all 10 putts from 20' were between like 19' and 21'-6". Those are much better results for me. Still gonna take a while to get my putt distances down as related to back stroke length. But for now it seems a 10" backstroke (just to outside of back foot) was resulting in consistent 12' putts.

Someone in the group behind me today shanked a ball on a par 3 and it came over to the next tee block and hit the cart of the guys I was playing with while they were sitting in it. When the guy from the tee rode his cart over, all he said was "did it go in the water?". The guys in the cart didn't say anything to him, I'm surprised they didn't ****ing kill him.

Wow @ that. No way that dude's not getting an earful if that **** happens to me. Well, unless he's really big I guess. But seriously how are people so ****ing clueless out there? All you have to do is scream "fore". Then apologize. How hard is that?

About as hard as letting faster groups play through.



How are you being serious?

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Isn't it common for a group to be ready to tee off on a par 3 while the group ahead is just leaving the green? It doesn't mean that group is playing faster, because on the next hole (par 4 or 5) it's not likely that they can reach that group like they can on a par 3. B/c while the next group is teeing off those other guys are still on the green, which takes a while. If someone rips a shot on a par 3 that hits someone's cart up ahead it doesn't mean they should play through, it means they are a thoughtless *******.

Pace-of-play on a par 3 is about 12 minutes. Par 5 is about 15 minutes. Not nearly a proportional difference. Yet the group ahead of you is far more physically reachable on one hole than the other. In other words people should be a bit more patient and courteous on a par 3. But if they aren't, at least be bothered to yell "fore" or "hey bro!" or "lookout man!" or something. Instead of "did it go in the water broheim?"

I have no problem with letting others play through. I actually enjoy every minute I'm on the course. I don't rush when I play golf, I like to savor each moment. But these guys never gave any indication, nor did it seem to me that we were being slow. And then they decide to get aggressive and try to hit me in the back with driver off the tee 200 something yards away.

I wasn't referring to that situation lol. He definitely should have yelled fore there and said how much he sucks and is sorry. It takes no effort at all, just like letting people play through. That was the point I was trying to make.

Edit: And now that we're on the "fore" topic, I have been using it liberally this year thanks to my lack of accuracy and added distance. I seem to be hitting it right at the ladies tees on other holes at least once a round.

Then you ask them what their problem is and throw down.

It is not their job to give an indication. It is your job to notice if there is a group behind you waiting on your shots, and to decide if you are playing slowly enough to be a hindrance to their round. Assuming the course is open in front of you of course. It sounds like the tee shot was your indication. I don't support it, they are *******s, but you still brought it upon yourself.

Tz is 100% right here. I can't believe how rarely I get waved through when I play by myself. I would be really embarrassed if I was in a group that was failing to let faster groups play through me, it's just common sense golf etiquette....or at least it should be.

this, hurry up or wave me through ty

obviously if there's no where to go in front then it doesn't matter and I usually just play a few balls if I'm by myself or in a twosome

it is absolutely not the responsibility of the group behind you to yell at you and ask if they can play through, lol

If there are holes ahead of you and a group behind is waiting on every shot then definitely let them through even if your own group is playing fast. You are being extremely rude not to offer to let them through and the trailing group should not have to ask. A big clue that you aren't playing very fast or as fast as you think you are is that there are holes open in front of you!

Definitely no excuse to hit into a group though I wouldn't be opposed to a state making it justifiable homicide when using a sniper rifle to take out a slow group ahead.

I'll give that guy credit, that was some pretty elite spam.

Obviously i was speaking solely about this incident he posted about and not slow play in general. Admittedly I've been, unintentional or not, the a-hole who "drove it too far" into the group ahead. I hate slow play more than anyone but no one person owns the course to himself and once you become the bs "oh-really-I-didn't-know?" card you lose the privilege, right whatever you call it to play through. Golf is a respectful game and they crossed the line IMO

you weren't out of line, they were clearly. I am kind of an ass so I can assure you that I would have got on my cart and drove back to the tee the minute they hit into me and let them show me how they could not have seen me in the fairway. Then it would have got heated.
I mean he joined in December and has 4 posts and then does that....links to a site (his site I am sure) and then when shown that he doesn't even understand the golf swing gets defensive.

WP

I don't know when or how it happened, but I have gone from being pretty feel oriented and just swinging the club pretty naturally to standing over the golf ball and analyzing every single element of the golf swing. Are my feet online to the target? Why does my clubface look hooded shut? Are my knees bent properly? How's my posture? Am i going to swing this club down the target line?

It has turned me into an absolute mess on the range and on the course. I played 18 yesterday and I think I parred 2 holes with no birdies, just bogeys and doubles. I shot a 73 two weeks ago and I barely broke 100 last night.

ungh, I just can't seem to get over this mental hump. Going to the range has proved fruitless, as I end up getting frustrated and playing a game of 'rake and hit' until my bucket is empty. Maybe I'll go the range tonight with a really small bucket and try to reset my focus on every shot.

Got hooked up with a free round at The Glen Club on Sunday afternoon.

http://www.theglenclub.com/layout10....=180&page=3746

So freaking pumped I can't even stand it.

Looks like a sick course, hf!