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03-13-2010 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JLBorloo
"A lot of the white parents were concerned about safety," Buckley said. "They were afraid that fights were going to break out, but the prom went smoothly. It was great; nobody got hurt or anything."

lol

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movi...rom/index.html

(just inquired cause I did not know what integrated meant in this sense)
If you get a chance, you should watch it because it's mind-blowing. And before any a**hole says that I'm a Canadian who's anti-American they should know that I have a ton of American relatives, my Dad has dual-citzenship, I go to the U.S. all of the time, and I like it there. (but I love Canada!)
03-13-2010 , 11:18 PM
Canadian director Paul Saltzman moved into the Mississippi Delta town to document how preparations for the dance might shake up traditions and raise fears.

"When I was doing the research and asking people 'What was the problem in having the prom together?' what whites usually said is, 'You know, blacks are into drugs; they're into violence' and on and on and on," Saltzman said.




Is it 2010 or 1810?
03-14-2010 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
LOL! Touchy are we??? Comparing anglophone/francophone relations in Canada, which are actually pretty good right now, to the history of racism against black people in the U.S. is ridiculous.

You're actually not even picking the easiest Canadian target..... most people would highlight racism towards aboriginal people.

Anyway, the fact that a high school anywhere in North America is having a segregated prom in the 21st century is f*cking disgusting.
in the U.S. defense...we forget that Mississippi is even here.
03-14-2010 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
in the U.S. defense...we forget that Mississippi is even here.
fwiw, I'm not taking issue with the "U.S", but racism in general. Racism in many other countries is much, much worse than what we encounter in North America.
03-14-2010 , 12:50 AM
Due to stuff like the above re: 'extremist' behavior (segregated proms, hatred of a skin color, etc) - I get extremely pessimistic about the future survival of the human race.

It's very depressing. How can we fix this? It will obviously take over a generation to completely change attitudes and we would have to wait until all the old bigots died out, seems like a difficult problem.
03-14-2010 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
fwiw, I'm not taking issue with the "U.S", but racism in general. Racism in many other countries is much, much worse than what we encounter in North America.
in all seriousness, there is still a lot of racisim in the U.S. I think we are "acting" closer to how we should, but some of the conversations I hear and undertones are ugly.
03-14-2010 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by illini43
Due to stuff like the above re: 'extremist' behavior (segregated proms, hatred of a skin color, etc) - I get extremely pessimistic about the future survival of the human race.

It's very depressing. How can we fix this? It will obviously take over a generation to completely change attitudes and we would have to wait until all the old bigots died out, seems like a difficult problem.
its not the extremist behavior you should worry about, that is why its refer to as "extremist". Its when self destructive behavior becomes tolerated that is the problem.
03-14-2010 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
in all seriousness, there is still a lot of racisim in the U.S. I think we are "acting" closer to how we should, but some of the conversations I hear and undertones are ugly.
Yeah, but I think we're a lot further along in the way people speak when it comes to race relations in comparison to sexual orientation.
03-14-2010 , 12:56 AM
I'm not racist... I hate everyone.
03-14-2010 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
its not the extremist behavior you should worry about, that is why its refer to as "extremist". Its when self destructive behavior becomes tolerated that is the problem.
This.
03-14-2010 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Equus asinus
I'm not racist... I hate everyone.
So, pretty much, you feel for others what others feel for you.

Got it.
03-14-2010 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Damntra
So, pretty much, you feel for others what others feel for you.

Got it.
Wat police. Do people hate him?
03-14-2010 , 01:07 AM
Halo 3 is so crappy after playing MW2 for a few months...this is so sad
03-14-2010 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Wat police. Do people hate him?
Only if he hates me.
03-14-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Canadian director Paul Saltzman moved into the Mississippi Delta town to document how preparations for the dance might shake up traditions and raise fears.

"When I was doing the research and asking people 'What was the problem in having the prom together?' what whites usually said is, 'You know, blacks are into drugs; they're into violence' and on and on and on," Saltzman said.




Is it 2010 or 1810?
This attitude is still very prevalent, the difference is that in Mississippi they don't try to hide it in public.
03-14-2010 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
LOL! Touchy are we???
No, just having a little fun. As Sammy said, we only remember Mississippi when something is going wrong in our state and think, "Well, at least we aren't as bad as Mississippi."
03-14-2010 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by springsteen87
This attitude is still very prevalent, the difference is that in Mississippi they don't try to hide it in public.
Man this really sucks. I'll never understand it. I remember when I was 12 on a family trip to Disney World. We drove down from Canada National Lampoon's style, except we had a mini-van instead of a station wagon. One day we stopped in Charleston, SC for a night, which is a beautiful old city that dates back to pre-Revolutionary times. As soon as we got to our hotel I was off in the pool because it was 95 degrees or something. I met this black kid around the same age who was from NYC and was staying at the hotel too. Of course I thought it was the coolest thing ever that he had been to Yankees, Mets and Giants games, so we became friends for the little time we were at the hotel.

The next day my family went on a shuttle bus tour of the historic sights of Charleston. We went past a bunch of churches and the tour guide, some old white guy, was describing them. Then we came by another church and he said that it was the church for black people because the whites don't really like them attending their churches.

I don't remember much else, but I do remember asking my Mom about it and feeling sad.
03-14-2010 , 11:24 AM
I fear there will always be racism, and it is sad. With humans being the way they are, insecure, fearful, afraid of change and anything or anyone that is 'different' in any way ... it will always be with us. All we can do is continually speak out against it and hope to contain it to some degree.

Garon
03-14-2010 , 12:27 PM
the most frustrating thing in the world is when other nations point at the US and say look at your racism and look at how stupid you all are like there aren't racist and dumb people everywhere. i am sorry we happen to have an enormous incredibly diverse country when most countries are small and homogeneous.

i guess since the US is still the most powerful country in the world they expect better of us? not sure really. i do remember one bbv thread where a guy asks how the games are going to be on the super bowl which is the single most watched sporting event each year. EVERY SINGLE eurotard on this forum jumps down his throat saying looking at these stupid arrogant americans, everyone knows that the EUFA or whatever is the most watched sporting event of the year. of course, it isn't even a yearly event! sorry that sometimes people forget about the rest of the world but if you don't pay that much attention to the news and you live in a country that is removed (not in terms of involvement but in terms of proximity) from many of the tensions of the world then sometimes these kind of things happen.
03-14-2010 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanguard
the most frustrating thing in the world is when other nations point at the US and say look at your racism and look at how stupid you all are like there aren't racist and dumb people everywhere. i am sorry we happen to have an enormous incredibly diverse country when most countries are small and homogeneous.

i guess since the US is still the most powerful country in the world they expect better of us? not sure really. i do remember one bbv thread where a guy asks how the games are going to be on the super bowl which is the single most watched sporting event each year. EVERY SINGLE eurotard on this forum jumps down his throat saying looking at these stupid arrogant americans, everyone knows that the EUFA or whatever is the most watched sporting event of the year. of course, it isn't even a yearly event! sorry that sometimes people forget about the rest of the world but if you don't pay that much attention to the news and you live in a country that is removed (not in terms of involvement but in terms of proximity) from many of the tensions of the world then sometimes these kind of things happen.
I find it frustrating when some Americans first instinct is to get defensive. If you're talking to me, read the rest of my posts - I wasn't singling out the United States. Besides, the movie I watched was developed mainly by Americans, and just happened to be directed by a Canadian.

And remember, I like the U.S. quite a bit. I also live in one of the most multi-cultural cities in the world, Toronto, ON.
03-14-2010 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
I find it frustrating when some Americans first instinct is to get defensive. If you're talking to me, read the rest of my posts - I wasn't singling out the United States. Besides, the movie I watched was developed mainly by Americans, and just happened to be directed by a Canadian.

And remember, I like the U.S. quite a bit. I also live in one of the most multi-cultural cities in the world, Toronto, ON.
i wasn't singling out you.
03-14-2010 , 12:58 PM
You're pretty defensive yourself sometimes Brock, do other people get as defensive about their country as Americans?

First bicycle ride of the year, any of my brothers to the north enjoying the tropical heat wave?
03-14-2010 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by illini43
Halo 3 is so crappy after playing MW2 for a few months...this is so sad
Try Battlefield Bad Company 2, forget about that Halo thing
03-14-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by springsteen87
You're pretty defensive yourself sometimes Brock, do other people get as defensive about their country as Americans?
I'm defensive about Canada , but unlike some Canadians I'm not anti-American. That being said, if somebody points at a major flaw in my country, like the treatment of aboriginals, I stop and think about it and don't immediately chalk it up to Canadian bashing. It's often easier for people outside of your country to more clearly see the problems within your country.

The interesting thing is that it's much easier to find an anti-American in Canada than it is to find an anti-Canadian in the U.S. I'm sure this has to do with the size difference of the two countries and the relative indifference most Americans have towards Canada, which is fine imo.

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03-14-2010 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1

The interesting thing is that it's much easier to find an anti-American in Canada than it is to find an anti-Canadian in the U.S. I'm sure this has to do with the size difference of the two countries and the relative indifference most Americans have towards Canada, which is fine imo.
I agree with this. I'm not sure how easy it is in Canada to find anti-Americanism, but I know that all my life Canadians have had an excellent reputation in the U.S.

I've always been around Canadians. My home town attracts a lot of Canadian tourists by advertising in Canada, and I soldiered with Canadians many times. I have lots good and nothing bad to say about Canadian people. My view seems to be practically universal in this country, as far as I can tell.

      
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