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11-06-2011 , 03:41 PM
really pulling for uga to win out to see wtf happens

youd have to put boise in the ncg, then ?????
11-06-2011 , 03:42 PM
Definitely no emotional attachment.
11-06-2011 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
really pulling for uga to win out to see wtf happens

youd have to put boise in the ncg, then ?????
If UGA won out, I figure they'd end up ~#10, maybe like 9, so to a BCS computer, that makes the Boise win over UGA huge. However, UGA is a completely different team now than in September imo.

I really don't want to see them in the ncg tho b/c LSU will curbstomp them.
11-06-2011 , 03:53 PM
lolboise

really hoping they don't get to play in the NCG. what a waste of time that will be.
11-06-2011 , 04:02 PM
I don't think there's a significant danger of Boise tarnishing the championship game by appearing in it. LSU will win out, and at least one of Stanford/Oklahoma State will as well (more likely Stanford IMO). Obviously Oregon would have a decent case to make it over Boise also if they beat Stanford and win out, but I'd far prefer the Cardinal to just bludgeon the Ducks next week.
11-06-2011 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage00
If UGA won out, I figure they'd end up ~#10, maybe like 9, so to a BCS computer, that makes the Boise win over UGA huge. However, UGA is a completely different team now than in September imo.

I really don't want to see them in the ncg tho b/c LSU will curbstomp them.
yes uga is the only team in the country to get better as the season goes on

the point is it will be interesting to see how the media treats the situation of the team they dont like having wafflecrushed the champion of the best conference of all time on the road, plus undefeated stanford with the best player in the country, undefeated ok st who would have a win over oklahoma, and then one-loss alabama and lsu teams who are the best two teams but didnt win their conference.
11-06-2011 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
yes uga is the only team in the country to get better as the season goes on

the point is it will be interesting to see how the media treats the situation of the team they dont like having curbstomped the champion of the best conference of all time on the road, plus undefeated stanford with the best player in the country, undefeated ok st who would have a win over oklahoma, and then one-loss alabama and lsu teams who are the best two teams but didnt win their conference.
i fully expect ok st. to drop a game.
11-06-2011 , 04:10 PM
i do think they lose to oklahoma and will almost certainly be an underdog even at home
11-06-2011 , 04:11 PM
I would hope that the media is good enough to properly treat the clear 5th most deserving team as the clear 5th most deserving team. I would expect that to be the case if that's how things play out.

Regardless, Georgia beating LSU is really unlikely so this speculation is about a hypo that we probably won't see.

Last edited by LKJ; 11-06-2011 at 04:12 PM. Reason: I agree about the Cowboys losing to OU. Hoping otherwise though.
11-06-2011 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I would hope that the media is good enough to properly treat the clear 5th most deserving team as the clear 5th most deserving team. I would expect that to be the case if that's how things play out.

Regardless, Georgia beating LSU is really unlikely so this speculation is about a hypo that we probably won't see.
even if everyone except LSU finishes with one loss there's at least 5 teams that deserve to be in the NCG before boise.
11-06-2011 , 04:38 PM
You don't have to convince me.
11-06-2011 , 04:39 PM
seem to be dismissing that the entire point of the hypothetical includes uga beating lsu, which while unlikely is not impossible although it would take a major lesmilesluckbox malfunction
11-06-2011 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I would hope that the media is good enough to properly treat the clear 5th most deserving team as the clear 5th most deserving team. I would expect that to be the case if that's how things play out.

Regardless, Georgia beating LSU is really unlikely so this speculation is about a hypo that we probably won't see.
SEC tho
11-06-2011 , 04:49 PM
I don't know why we're back on this Boise thing again aside from a certain poster's irrational emotional attachment to them, but under this scenario where Georgia/Stanford/Oklahoma State/Boise all win out, it's not as if the potential of Georgia being top 10 gives Boise some kind of winning argument. Under that scenario, Stanford would have beaten Oregon and Oklahoma state would have beaten Oklahoma.

Realistically if I was a Boise fan and didn't have access to razor blades and a warm bathtub, I would know that I had to root like hell for both Oregon and Oklahoma to come through and pull upsets (upsets where seeding is concerned anyway). If Stanford and Oklahoma State don't both lose then Boise is not getting in. And they shouldn't.
11-06-2011 , 06:06 PM
Its the potential of uga winning the undisputed best conference and boise crushing them in their place would be the best win anyone has this season by far.
11-06-2011 , 06:09 PM
Do you actually view that as an intellectually honest point?
11-06-2011 , 06:11 PM
Which do you disagree with?

1. The SEC is the best conference by far.
2. Boise crushed UGA on the road.
3. Crushing the champion of the best conference on the road would be the most impressive win this year.

lsu right now has the best win even though it was a game of aids, I guess if oregon beats stanford by 21+ on the road they have a shot at the best win.
11-06-2011 , 06:15 PM
3, obviously...though I give you credit for mitigating your absurdity by taking out the "by far" this time. You know very well what really significant problems exist in your argument; you shouldn't be trying to put anyone in a position of putting in the effort to deconstruct it. When you debate points, it is beyond clear that you don't look to seek truth but instead look for favorable evidence of what you want to be true that you can then present in the best possible light.
11-06-2011 , 06:19 PM
Then tell me which wins you think are close to being better. Right now the only one thats comparable is LSU at alabama in the (worst) game of the century.
11-06-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
Then tell me which wins you think are close to being better. Right now the only one thats comparable is LSU at alabama in the (worst) game of the century.
OU @ KSU 58-17 is pretty impressive.

and since when is georgia a good team? they lost to boise st and south carolina and haven't beaten a good team all year. south carolina and boise haven't beaten any good team either. georgia has no chance of beating LSU and i actually expect them to drop another game in the regular season too.
11-06-2011 , 06:37 PM
true, although it will look less so after kansas st loses their next two games and people realize that a team who beat eastern kentucky 10-7 isnt that good
11-06-2011 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
OU @ KSU 58-17 is pretty impressive.

and since when is georgia a good team? they lost to boise st and south carolina and haven't beaten a good team all year. south carolina and boise haven't beaten any good team either. georgia has no chance of beating LSU and i actually expect them to drop another game in the regular season too.
thats a really cool story bro and if true would make the entire premise invalid since georgia wouldnt have won the sec
11-06-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
thats a really cool story bro and if true would make the entire premise invalid since georgia wouldnt have won the sec
even if georgia wins out and beats LSU, do you truly believe boise's body of work is more impressive than a one-loss LSU/bama/OU/oregon/etc

winning one good game just isn't enough for me
11-06-2011 , 06:47 PM
Anyone who wants to see Boise in the title game should go diaf.
11-06-2011 , 06:48 PM
LSU and potentially Stanford beating Oregon are stronger. Oklahoma State potentially beating Oklahoma is stronger. And yes, LSU beating Bama was stronger as well. There are undoubtedly more, but those are just the ones that quickly come to mind.

You're dishonestly propping up "champion of the best conference" in your hypo as if it's synonymous with "best team in the best conference," which it most decidedly would not be in that scenario. We both know that Georgia is only going to get a shot at the title because of the fact that they drew the far weaker division. They won't have beaten a single ranked team in order to get to that game. And pulling one big upset that they won't pull wouldn't magically change that they are not the best team to lose to one of the title contenders.

      
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