No. Only football losses can enrage me for that long. Well, those and the loss of an entire basketball franchise.

http://occupyherbstreit.tumblr.com/

lol this is awesome

I lol'ed hard at the Notre Dame Charlie Weis sign

Excellent.

Still need to know why my example is a bad one, about how we would know that Texas had gone downhill if they played in a minor conference. Big name, prolonged success, they would likely have a good shot to sweep through the MWC or WAC and only then we would find out that they weren't very good, right?

what are you asking? texas last year was bad and lost to a couple really awful teams

Upon further review, that Texas example was a stupid one on my part. While most of their losses were defensible, that UCLA one was so bad that my argument folds under its weakness. I can't really say that a team that gets slaughtered at home by UCLA would have swept a bad conference. (Then again, neither did Boise.)

But yeah, disregard my silly example. I was still trying to make a larger point about how problematic it is to give teams the benefit of the doubt based on the past five years.

And my larger point is that using the smallest sample possible doesnt make sense when you can at least get SOME information from the last couple seasons.

If they go from winning games by 28 to winning them by 7 then yes we can conclude that they are not as good. Winning doesnt matter as much as how you do it. If they are still winning by 28 then its reasonable to conclude they are just as good.

I guess the argument might be pointless since I rate Boise at #9 right now anyway. That is to say...I'd rather see an undefeated Boise squad (assuming dominance the rest of the way) over someone like the Big East champion in a BCS game. We may not know how great they are, but we largely do know that the Big East champ isn't that great and Boise at least might be.

Obviously I will virulently oppose letting them into the actual BCS championship except in the most extreme scenarios (if there are undefeated or one-loss teams available from the SEC/Big 12/Big Ten/Pac-12 available to play, they should make it...only if we had this huge glut of two-loss teams, which happened a few years ago, could I see maybe justifying Boise in the big game).

Speaking of football games that keep me irate for months (longer than months, really)...

Now I don't even feel bad about my last post. Gotta go strong with the Boise State hate or don't go at all.

Don't get me wrong. The hate is there. I root against them every single time they play. Tough to stick with that when they played Oregon, but on balance I more or less backed Oregon.

But if they get shut out of a BCS game and in my heart of hearts I think they deserved to make it, I'd rather they were there (and hopefully got their asses kicked) rather than getting shut out of playing in the game at all and attaining national martyrdom. It would be sickening for the Boise sympathizers to have a complaint that was actually valid.

Sorry; I always strive to be fair and honest.

you seem extremely mad that they have been the best team in the northwest for the couple years

Of course it upsets me when an unlikable team does well. Doesn't that upset you?

(Also, yes. Oregon beats them out for that "honor.")

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292460068

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=282642483

Do not trot out head-to-head like it's a be all and end all when you discounted it practically yesterday.

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no emotional attachment amirite

I mean, damn you for making me champion the ****ing Oregon Ducks, but they just got done blowing out an entire BCS conference and then made an entirely respectable showing in the national title game. I realize that nothing they did may have been as cool as a Statue of Liberty, but still.

when they are 43-2 over the time period in question with both head to head wins thats a better body of work, its not like Im using head to head to justify putting a 6-6 team over a 10-2 one.

I was comparing two teams that had the same exact record and using head-to-head as a tiebreaker. And I "didn't know what I was talking about." Nothing even akin to your 10-2 vs. 6-6 straw man. Let's not lose sight of the importance of intellectual honesty in life, son.

the 2-0 is worth mentioning; the 43-2 isnt

there is a massive difference between a win at home and winning both games in a home and home, dominating the one at your place