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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex
Atak,
Just how much did you used to lie and why?
Amount of 1night stands had?
Worst thing youve done to a person?
I'll think of some positive questions to counter these ones
Youre a utilitarian, right?
I lied about everything — stupid stuff mostly. When I was playing poker, I'd make up careers for myself — a new one every day or week. Stuff along those lines. I wound up not even thinking about it.
One night stands have never been my thing. I'm lousy at picking up women for casual encounters. (I did try, for a while, but gave up about a decade ago because it never worked.) One thing that contributes to that a bit is that I pretty much can't have sex when I've been drinking at all, so bars and clubs don't work so well, but mostly it's that I just don't approach it right. (It probably also "helps" that I am almost always uncomfortable in that kind of place, primarily because loud noise agitates me, to a pretty great extent if it goes on for long.) There have been times, but they've either been really out-of-the-blue things, or occasionally related to my being on Match (though the latter is rare, because I'm not looking for it and neither are the people I tend to be finding or who tend to find me.)
Anyway, I don't know how many, really. Fifteen maybe? Twenty? Somewhere in there.
I'm much more inclined to have brief but not instantaneous relationships, usually without sex on the first date.
Worst things I've done... I don't really know. I feel like I've done awful things, but I suppose since I can't think of any that says something good. The thing that comes to mind most, though is related to the above: I let people fall for me,a and leave them as soon as they do. I don't go into relationships intending it, but I do know that I do it. Sometimes, they get damaged a fair amount, so it's not something I'm proud of at all. I know that I'm better about it now, though. I started focusing on it a few years ago. For example, I managed to leave someone once, just as she was clearly at the stage where she wanted to say "I love you" but wouldn't, because I knew that I didn't and never would — I know that sound s like no big deal, but I was giving up someone who really, really liked me, was smart and attractive, and not incidentally was better in bed than anyone I've ever met. I was proud of myself, because for me that was a big deal. I've taken similar steps with others whom I believed I'd damage if I stayed — and in one case that was hugely bad, because I believe I could have stayed with her (as in forever) but I didn't trust myself not to be an ass, so I left. Balancing these things remains an unsolved problem.
Re being a utilitarian: I don't know. You've read this well; am I? I haven't taken any formal philosophy, and labeling these things really doesn't interest me enough that I've ever looked into it. I know what i think is right, except in the areas in which I don't,a and that's the level on which I think of such things.
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It would be some seriously sick and twisted definition of utilitarianism that could justify killing 85% of humanity.
I remembered last night why that conversation seemed off to me, earlier in the thread: I was viewing it as an extension of a discussion from PE, so I was forgetting that some parts of the discussion hadn't gotten repeated. So let me fix it a bit:
Re the pressing the button, I go back and forth. In a non-depressed mood, I wouldn't do it, because I would realize that it would make those who remained miserable. However, if I could magically make it so that 85% of humanity had never existed at all, I'm pretty sure I would do that, and I'd quite happily take steps to ensure that the world's population dropped to that level over a couple or a few generations, even if doing that infringed on the "liberty" to breed at will.
Last edited by atakdog; 11-18-2009 at 12:11 PM.