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05-02-2009 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cardassian
Well done sk!!!! big fracken high five from me.

Agree that A.ertjberg looks wolfie as here, the whole vote JD then change like 2 minutes later cos JD had too many votes (i know his vote was cross posted with another but that's only 1 more than he was counting on) looks real dodge.

Kinda like someone voting for a wolf mate then realising they might actually get lynched and jumping wagons to save them (i think this as i made this mistake when i was a noob wolf).

I also think karak still looks dodge.
Especially when he didn't comment on my post on him yesterday, but chose to defend against other people's posts on him.
I also think his last minute vote was weird considering he'd looked like he was being all buddy buddy with jack earlier (see post 807) nad then votes him cos he trusts caedus and has a "read from earlier" (not mentioned earlier i notice, you seemed pretty non committal on him d1 and pretty friendly d2 until you voted him).

Also i find it strange that he had agreed with the case against brian, pushed the brian wagon, voted brian and then changed last minute to jack with no reasoning and what looks to me to be an excuse.

So please karak if you are a villa (have played 2 previous games with you and read you as vill in both) explain your voting and posting please as you really aren't reading vill to me in this game.
woooo i voted them cause i came back near eod and didnt know waht ot do. obv jack frost was a mistake but i trusted caedus, i dunno. i should have stayed with brain, big error on my part. woooo. i am villa though. even through all the alcohol i cant lie im villa villa villa all the way baby.

also: sk i dont know hwo you are but you have sick soul reads gg
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05-02-2009 , 04:09 AM
WOW. Nice result serial killer. We must buy you a beer.

I would like to ask again for the following guys to give me their thoughts on who is wolfy and villa like:

chaser
malgin
a.ertjberg
Illya

Whoever out of this quad contributes the least ITT will get my vote in 5 hours time and I will try to drum up other customers against them.
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05-02-2009 , 05:36 AM
Well no one counted my vote yesterday...my bad for embedding it in a larger amount of text but I voted Mdom yesterday not no one.

What is up with Mrs unvoting right before eod two days in a row???

I still don't like mdom88 right now.

I didn't answer your questions because I as I said in my posts I was on my way to work which I have just no gotten home from and am going to bed as I must return there in eight hours. I'll try to put together more substantial answers to your questions late tomorrow night/sunday before eod.
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05-02-2009 , 05:51 AM
I'll give a couple thoughts on some of the players slink mentioned

ily - He has posted 3 times:

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RiverFenix seems to make the most sense and I don't have much of an idea of what I'm doing, so I'll tag along with what he says

Malgin
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this mirrors my trail of thought. That and I'm effin clueless :P
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my god, I've read through 675 posts and am still clueless o_O.

I do recall a few avatars n stuff. So given that I've never played this before, I'll be pretty useless, I'm sorry in advance.

Now, do people pull up an excel sheet and put their reads etc in there or how do people keep track? Also, what's the relevance of the post counts being posted here a while earlier?


Also, just reading through basic villager strategy:

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It's hard to keep track of who said what in there. Other villagers will see 100 posts since they last checked the thread, and just give up. If they bother with the thread at all, it's to hop to the end, and they vote for whoever looks like a likely target.
It is very daunting to read through 670 posts, where maybe 100 were of any real value. I don't know how these games are usually run but I don't want to spend my days sifting through haystacks, looking for a couple of needles Just my 2 cent observation.
This looks pretty wolfy. No content, making excuses about being a noob. Not voting d1 seems like something a noob wolf would do. He also voted Malgin for no clear reason. I don't like the late vote and I don't like the logic behind it.

Malgin - I'm not too sure about him. He could go either way aorn. He has had some wolfy posting but I don't necessarily think hes a wolf. The fact that ily voted him helps his case. We need more info on him before lynching

A Ert - that JD vote then switch to jack looks a wee bit suspicious last night but I can't say much more about him. He voted WU the first day and was in the middle of the pack iirc

I don't have a read on chaser.

GTP mentioned that he thought a lot of the wolves were utr. That makes me think there are some active wolves. I doubt there is more than 1 wolf in this group
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05-02-2009 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911
We also have a NEUTRAL role being played by the Seerial Killer. He is allowed 1 kill per night and can not win without being the last man standing.
FYP, this is beyond awesome.

Sorry I am very afk on weekends, but I am still skimming the thread once a day. Gonna post a little in 9 hours, then afk again for another 12.

GL villa, Seerial Killer for the president.
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05-02-2009 , 07:03 AM
7:55

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Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
wow, that was a lot of JD votes.

Unvote Jack Frost
7:56
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Originally Posted by Mrsbutton
everyone get off JD
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Originally Posted by Mrsbutton
of coarse cause we work hard as a village all day and the wolfs just run us over at EOD
makes me wanna vote a.ertjberg/mrsbutton/JD
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05-02-2009 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nightwood
makes me wanna vote a.ertjberg/mrsbutton/JD
it looks bad but mrsbutton changed her(?) vote 4 times total yesterday. 3 times the day before. Not out of the ordinary. Ert looks worse imo
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05-02-2009 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BingoBango
it looks bad but mrsbutton changed her(?) vote 4 times total yesterday. 3 times the day before. Not out of the ordinary. Ert looks worse imo
what strikes me most is two people simultaneously shouting "get off JD"

and what about buttons "the wolves run us over" .. i just don't like the tone

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those last 5min yesterday really bug me. yes, JD sucks big as a wagon (only 3 posts + 5 from saymond), but ertjberg/buttons are just ... and then four people jumping on jack, none giving a reason. that is wolfwork.
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05-02-2009 , 09:02 AM
***** dead******
Gl wolves if the villa was dumb enoug to let me get lynched they deserve to lose

LOL "exerinced playeraments"

*****dead*****
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05-02-2009 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nightwood
what strikes me most is two people simultaneously shouting "get off JD"

and what about buttons "the wolves run us over" .. i just don't like the tone

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those last 5min yesterday really bug me. yes, JD sucks big as a wagon (only 3 posts + 5 from saymond), but ertjberg/buttons are just ... and then four people jumping on jack, none giving a reason. that is wolfwork.
Slink also jumped on and off JD. He ended up going with a throwaway vote mal
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05-02-2009 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BingoBango
Slink also jumped on and off JD. He ended up going with a throwaway vote mal
I'm gonna be afk soon and I know he's gonna try to argue malgin was not a throwaway. He had 2 votes and you voted with no time left. The wagons were 6 votes so even if the +3 guy voted for mal, it would not have been enough to matter
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05-02-2009 , 10:38 AM
Sorry for my post last night.
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05-02-2009 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gtpitch
Voting for Karak based solely on Karak's post is pretty terribad. Karak is obviously a villager this game.
Karak getting defended by a wolf here looks bad for Karak.
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05-02-2009 , 11:33 AM
[0] A.Ertbjerg-
[0] Ainex-mdom
[0] BingoBango-
[0] BitchiBee-
[1] Brian -
[0] cardassian -mburke
[0] chaser1942-
[0] corsakh -
[0] djstu -mburke
[0] goofyballer-
[0] I_Like_Beer-
[0] IlyaMuromec
[0] jobeen-
[0] JumanjiBoard -
[0] Karak567 –
[0] Malgin-
[2] mburke05-
[1] mdom88 -brian
[0] Mrsbutton-
[0] nightwood-
[0] O0Brian0O-
[0] RiverFenix-
[0] J.D.(For saymond)-
[0] Slink-
[0] starkwired -
[0] WinEvryRacex -
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05-02-2009 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Slink
Karak getting defended by a wolf here looks bad for Karak.
Not nessasarily, the Karak wagon wasn't too much heat, and wolves love to defend villagers in v/v wagons. But its something to keep an eye on, especially if both Brian and Nightwood are villagers, because then theres a chance that Gt preemptively defended wolf Karak

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Sorry for my post last night.
wat?
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05-02-2009 , 11:47 AM
Anyways, we have a great villager cast here. Whove done a great job clearing themselves.

Slink, Mdom88, 00Brian, Wineveryrace, Cardasian, Riverfenix, goofyballer*. All=villagers

From the remaining list,

J.d/A.E/Mburke/Jujami/BingoBango/Ilyamurenec/DJstue

Are goot candidates.
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05-02-2009 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Anyways, we have a great villager cast here. Whove done a great job clearing themselves.

Slink, Mdom88, 00Brian, Wineveryrace, Cardasian, Riverfenix, goofyballer*. All=villagers

From the remaining list,

J.d/A.E/Mburke/Jujami/BingoBango/Ilyamurenec/DJstue

Are goot candidates.
Agreed.
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05-02-2009 , 12:14 PM
I still don't quite understand why everyone thinks im a wolf. The wagon I've been trying to start on nightwood never works and I did have gtpitch in my wolf group. I can't believe JF would get voted either considering he played the EXACT same last game as a villa. I mentioned this, he mentioned this, and at least two others mentioned this.
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05-02-2009 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Slink, Mdom88, 00Brian, Wineveryrace, Cardasian, Riverfenix, goofyballer*. All=villagers
eh, forgot to explain my asterix. Goofyballer seems to be cleared fromed the nk, but due to the other motives suggest itt, we should still keep an eye on him. Everyone else I'm 100% on.
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05-02-2009 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Not nessasarily, the Karak wagon wasn't too much heat, and wolves love to defend villagers in v/v wagons. But its something to keep an eye on, especially if both Brian and Nightwood are villagers, because then theres a chance that Gt preemptively defended wolf Karak



wat?

My... less than coherent post. NVM.
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05-02-2009 , 12:45 PM
GTP knew that karak could very easily be lynched, there was already a wagon starting on him yesterday. Defending him could have been for villa points after he came up villa (if karak is villa).

GTP defending karak might actually make him look GOOD..havent thought about it yet tho.
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05-02-2009 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jack frost
***** dead******
Gl wolves if the villa was dumb enoug to let me get lynched they deserve to lose

LOL "exerinced playeraments"

*****dead*****
Yeah, you're not at all at fault for getting mislynched. Excellent play.
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05-02-2009 , 12:54 PM
Ok, I'm gonna post in bulk cos I don't have time to monitor the thread right now. I'm also not gonna address yesterday right now, because I was not here and it looks like a total cluster****. I skimmed the main parts though. If someone has specific questions to me or any non-apparent cliff nots that I might have missed from a "look though", please fire. I will be checking on this thread for the next 6 hours, then I go afk again for 12.

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Originally Posted by nightwood
another tl;dr at daybreak.

the following four people voted for jack in the last 10min before eod. none gave any substantial reason.i consider those noisy/wolfy votes.

chaser (no reason)
gtpitch ("only because i trust caedus")
malgin (no reason)
a.ertjberg (no reason)
We can not say for sure without knowing Brians role yet. If Brian turns out a villa, I say they did more good than bad.

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Originally Posted by mdom88
fwiw on d1, 00brian00 pretty much tried to lead a crusade on gtpitch
I don't remember the exact details of that wagon. But keep in mind tow things. First, do not put too much stock into d1 wagons. Second, gtpitch was a "special" pup and who knows what kinda of plan some wolves had for him. Is it too out of line to assume that some may try to wagon him early to play it out later in some way since they know its not really going to kill him immediately? I don't fully understand how this "double pup" works, if someone has a better idea, please nelighten.

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Originally Posted by djstu
imo I say we just sit back and let the SK do our work for us.
Ye, awesome plan. At the rate we are myslinching + 2 night kills every day, we are going to be done in less than a week. I will take it you were kidding here.

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Originally Posted by nightwood
mdom fake peeked gtpitch villa. would a wolf be so stupid to fake peek another wolf?
I am not sure how to explain my thoughts here, but I would assume it depends how long he would expect to live / get picked by a seer. Hope this makes sense.

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Originally Posted by mburke05
seers:
car
djstu
Another brilliant plan in action. Did you also speak to a possum to figure this?

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
My money is on a seerhunt, which means we should be keeping votes off of goofy. Its a stretch to think that the wolves will be hunting the SK, as they had no idea the SK's strategy on n2, as the n1 kill could of been something random. Now that 2 wolves have been killed, the wolves are likely more inclined to SK hunt and their NK's for future nights will likely reveal less information.

As for the strong player argument, that is pretty ******ed. As strong as caedus is getting the seer is far more important. Caedus can guess at a wolf, while the seer knows DUCY?
This is so wrong, I don't even know where to start. Compare Caedus skill level to the rest of the village. Take into account that seer picks are currently dilluted by the fact that we lose whopping three people a day (and hence some of their picks may be dead) and that their villa picks do not clear anyone 100% until we know that the SK is dead. Also if I was under impression that Caedus first tried to claim two peeks, then realized there was no d0 peed. I may be wrong here, did not read last night carefully. Anyway, whatever. I find this very strange if you really think this way.
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05-02-2009 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JumanjiBoard
I still don't quite understand why everyone thinks im a wolf. The wagon I've been trying to start on nightwood never works and I did have gtpitch in my wolf group. I can't believe JF would get voted either considering he played the EXACT same last game as a villa. I mentioned this, he mentioned this, and at least two others mentioned this.
Do you still want to see a nightwood wagon? Anyone else?
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05-02-2009 , 12:58 PM
What did you guys make of that nightwoods drunk post?
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