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Old 05-02-2009, 01:01 PM   #1126
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

The main reason I guess I am not a fan of pushing nightwood is that he seemed to have a crusade against jumanji and jumanji was the guy who seemed to gain the most from WU/Beer wagons.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:02 PM   #1127
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I don't remember the exact details of that wagon. But keep in mind tow things. First, do not put too much stock into d1 wagons. Second, gtpitch was a "special" pup and who knows what kinda of plan some wolves had for him. Is it too out of line to assume that some may try to wagon him early to play it out later in some way since they know its not really going to kill him immediately? I don't fully understand how this "double pup" works, if someone has a better idea, please nelighten.
This is very interesting, as I always thought OObrian`s tone was a bit wolfy. However if 00Brian is a wolf the senario you suggest is extremely fpsy, as gt if he survives d1, will likely get rewagoned and lynched d2 ducy?

Striking him off of my 100% list for now, but its still very likely that hes a villa imo.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:06 PM   #1128
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Ye, awesome plan. At the rate we are myslinching + 2 night kills every day, we are going to be done in less than a week. I will take it you were kidding here.
It was obviously a joke Corsakh, I thought you had better sense then that.

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We can not say for sure without knowing Brians role yet. If Brian turns out a villa, I say they did more good than bad.
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The main reason I guess I am not a fan of pushing nightwood is that he seemed to have a crusade against jumanji and jumanji was the guy who seemed to gain the most from WU/Beer wagons.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:11 PM   #1129
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Perhaps. But what if gtpitch hits a tie break? Does he survive because he is a double pup? Because he wins a flip? Or because a 3+ villa was pushing the other wagon?
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:14 PM   #1130
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

If the choice is between villa Brian and villa Jacky, who do you think the pups are more likeey to want to kill?

Jumanji was the closest third wagon when WU/Beer thing took off.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:15 PM   #1131
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

To explain my votes at last EOD.

I thought, and still do, that nightwood is a villa, I wasn't fond of the brian wagon, so I voted JD.
This was based on the vote-summary done by OTI so I thought I evened up the votes. After I posted my voted I saw that both GTP and Malgin also had voted JD.

I really didn't like this as the dynamics behind this wagon just felt wrong, so I voted for Jack Frost. I think I was number 3 on this wagon, and as such not really jumping on an ongoing wagon. I did this because I really didn't like any of the three wagons going and a lot of people were posting something like: vote someone, but Jack Frost seems like a good vote. So I voted for whom I thought most likely a wolf at the time. I was a bit surprised that the wagon actually took off like that but I think I had to stick with it a the time.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:29 PM   #1132
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

i have sick reads ldo. if the SK wasnt so baller, i was going to vote gtpitch today for the 3rd day in a row
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:51 PM   #1133
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Dont have much time today until Sunday as it's my cousins graduation, gonna do a reread now and come back w/ some thoughts. Also by my count it shouldnt have been a flip last night as Karak voted for JF not Brian. Everyone voted as well except for Bingo which was different from the final tally.

Also JF should have a strikethrough in his name, forgot
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:55 PM   #1134
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

am i even on there fenix? lol
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:56 PM   #1135
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

You are JumBo, your name is too long to fit into the columns w/o eventually having the final pic have like a width of 2k px
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:00 PM   #1136
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I haven't checked yet, but Caedus pretty adamantly defended Nightwood and me yesterday, if I recall correctly...

seer hunt clearing?
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:05 PM   #1137
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9pm EOD)

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This is basically 100% villager, IMO.

Anyone voting for Brian needs to gtfo off now
Well, looks like gtp spewed brian villager. This was 3.5 hours before EOD.

No way does he say this about the leading wagon who's a wolf.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:32 PM   #1138
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Well, looks like gtp spewed brian villager. This was 3.5 hours before EOD.

No way does he say this about the leading wagon who's a wolf.
Id take the opposite stance here as if Brian is a wolf he'd want people to get off his wagon and if since he is a wolf and if Brian is a villa it'd be a great chance to get Brian lynched in the early game. Yeah it creates a tie between the two of them that looks bad for GTP if Brian comes back wolf but he could say other people were saying Brian is a bad wagon for the day too.

Also didnt have as much time to reread as I wouldve liked as I need to be out the door in ten minutes so Ill have to come back and give more thoughts late tonight or early tomorrow.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:46 PM   #1139
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Well, looks like gtp spewed brian villager. This was 3.5 hours before EOD.

No way does he say this about the leading wagon who's a wolf.
Could be a level, but I agree.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:50 PM   #1140
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Do you still want to see a nightwood wagon? Anyone else?
i still want a nightwood wagon
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #1141
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I do too, and I will continue to start it until I am given evidence that he isn't a wolf

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Old 05-02-2009, 03:10 PM   #1142
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Could be a level, but I agree.
Well, my whole point was that I'm fairly sure that it's not a level, and that brian is a villager. I'm not voting brian for a loooong time here, and will always be saving him at eod.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:13 PM   #1143
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Well, my whole point was that I'm fairly sure that it's not a level, and that brian is a villager. I'm not voting brian for a loooong time here, and will always be saving him at eod.
o that makes me feel good since you pushed the last 2 wagons who ended up being villagers
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:15 PM   #1144
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

mburke, same reasons as before, and cardassian's analysis seems spot on about what gtpitch said with the "v/v" comment likely being a w/v instead
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:16 PM   #1145
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btw when is the next EoD, today or tomorrow? (or Monday?)
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:21 PM   #1146
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btw when is the next EoD, today or tomorrow? (or Monday?)
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:24 PM   #1147
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

k i'm here. and surprise surprise, goofy grudge votes me without doing a single bit of analysis/contribution on his own.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:36 PM   #1148
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I did the analysis yesterday and if anything the reasons I presented have only gotten stronger since then given gtpitch being a wolf.
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Old 05-02-2009, 04:19 PM   #1149
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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I don't remember the exact details of that wagon. But keep in mind tow things. First, do not put too much stock into d1 wagons. Second, gtpitch was a "special" pup and who knows what kinda of plan some wolves had for him. Is it too out of line to assume that some may try to wagon him early to play it out later in some way since they know its not really going to kill him immediately? I don't fully understand how this "double pup" works, if someone has a better idea, please nelighten.
It was like 00brian's only post, and no one had mentioned gtpitch IIRC. He made a super long post with about 10 quotes from gtpitch analyzing his play and being sure that he was a wolf. I really dont think a wolf would do that randomly, keep in mind that the double pup thing isn't as much of an advantage as it would seem imo, as the pup escaping from the lynch that night is certainly going to die in the next few days once everything is figured out (unless the pup escaped due to tie, and we just assume that he won the flip -- but this is way too much of a risk just for a level).

i'm basically certain that 00brian is not a wolf at this point. some pretty crazy stuff would have to happen for me to change my mind on him.
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Old 05-02-2009, 04:22 PM   #1150
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9pm EOD)

here it is for reference

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hai.

this is my second game ever, i got wolf the first time, and was utr for like the whole game, so ill be looking at utr people really closely, since i was that last time

im villa this time and it will be fun to pwn the wolvies, my first guess it gtpitch



fluff



fluff



fluff



fluff



fluff



fluff



not going to read too much into anything? fluff



fluff



this is so wolfy



uh huh, since 90% of your posts are fluff we shouldn't lynch you?



fluff



yeah, fluff, if this guy isnt wolf, i would be so suprised, we need to start a wagon on him for sure

vote: gtpitch

also, there are 2 brians in this game, so try to say oobrian or something so we know which one youre talking to
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