Just remember it when I flip

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You not dying is not role neutral. Any wolves who read my d1 know your are my most likely target if I win the contest. If you aren't a wolf, they are unlikely to RB me. I posted charts with you alone in the wolf category, I could have laid out a clearer signal to the wolf team as to my preferences.

For it to be neutral you need wolves or runner up villager (who never came forward) to RB me on a whim basically.

Sure, it is not impossible that one of these things could happen, but it is very unlikely, and you pretending it is "role neutral" is just complete nonsense

idk these scream villager to me .. maybe its because i'm almost always a villager and almost always get killed early because people ALWAYS thought i was a wolf .. and no matter how hard i tried to say otherwise it didn't matter.. and i'm projecting that onto shortline but yeah .. something just still doesn't seem right

and maybe he's really good and maybe i'm the perfect patsy but i'm not gonna get on the shortline wagon

Another possible piece of evidence that Shorty is a powerful wolf with this "one more night" stuff from shadsters

There is a village rollblocker too right. BobO? He could have rb'd Jdalla and he isn't here to say if he did or not.

k lol

Given how he posted itt yesterday, there's a reasonable chance the wolves roleblocked him.

If that's the case, it says nothing about your role.

In general I think this is more likely roleblocked villa than wolf FPS on his part.

Stop making it about you now and go find some wolves.

Also, I voted Luckbox and I don't think the tracker picked it up.

multiple other people in this thread (like Nich and Gus) have pointed out to you @jdalla that it is, in fact, role neutral or barely adds to the wolf rand(). you could reread and notice that. whether they are wolves or not, they are right.

when i come up villager - and if you are a villager - you will need to live with the fact that is was YOUR bad play and closedmindedness that screwed the village. you don't get to pawn it off on me when you are the one who won't consider your own irrelevance.

on its surface this is a strong argument .. but doesn't it assume that people knew you would win the minigame in order to know who would be targeted and who to block? seems like a pretty big hole in your theory, no?

you may be back on my wolf list jdalla ..

He's screaming that it is completely role neutral for him to not be dead, and it's just not true given the facts and circumstances.

Others that said he gets emotional and angry as a wolf (I don't recall). I'll grant you his tone is on point, but the content of his posts tell the story.

Day 2: Automated Votals from #1860 to #1911

Luckbox Inc (6): Sun Tzu (29), jonnyd (24), Kukraprout (53), KruZe (6), Luckbox Inc (103), riverfish1 (4)
shortline99 (6): JDalla (28), dmk (43), Tokyo!! (42), wdcbooks (20), crackedquads (11), sixfour (4)
gusmahler (4): shortline99 (74), Nicholasp27 (4), coordi (8), Crossnerd (3)
Crossnerd (2): aaronk56 (20), atakdog (4)
KruZe (1): YouKnowWho (17)
coordi (1): Felix the Cat (20)
aaronk56 (1): mrs. jonnyd (13)
Not voting (3): biggerboat (0), gusmahler (18), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 1h11m. Hammer at 12.

Vote history:

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i posted my wolfy list

Crackedquads
Gus
Dmk
Kruze
Coordi
One of Jdalla / atakdog
jonnyd

i'm willing to amend this list because Kruze only posts raptor GIFs and the intransigence in this thread is just super confusing

but dmk is screaming wolf to me because he knows better than to tunnel on my role after the last 2.5 games. quads hasn't redeemed himself. the comment about gus' "busywork" still rings true to me. i would add sixfour to my suspicions after his quick vote on me just now. i'm certainly not opposed to crossnerd voting but don't have a good read there.

ughhh i don't like gusmahler but i'm not a fan of most of the people voting for him so not sure if that is the way to go either

what's up with crossnerd? does she(?) normally post?

it assumes wolves thought he would win the minigame. I wasn't paying much attention at the end last night. That's not a terrible leap to make, it's not like it was a random draw.

Also if it's not clear from this post, my original response to Shorty was incorrect and did not take into account Jdallas strong wolf read on shorty properly.

I would like to welcome JDalla to my list of villagers who will likely be dead tomorrow. Forget about the claim, his tone today also screams village. For those keeping score we have:

Tokyo, then Sun Tzu and JDalla. The rest of you remain wolves.

No. It was a no downside roleblocker. (unless I'm a wolf ofc)

I think you're missing the full picture here. He survived SOMEHOW.
- village had no angel
- wolves had a once per game angel
- wolves had a RB
- if someone got 2nd place in the contest, they had an angel OR RB

If he was angeled by a wolf, he's a wolf
Otherwise, I was RBd.
the normal villager RB doesn't work on villagers

So I had to have been RBed (if he wasn't protected) by
1: wolves (who could have only put me on shooting shorty as vig or contest winner)
2: villager RB (and then I'd have to be a wolf for shorty to live here)
3: a villager 2nd place in contest, who would have claimed by now almost certainly
4: a wolf 2nd place in contest, which is same as (1)

reading mrs. jonnyd villa here - a wolf in her position would likely be lying lower with no real reason to be actively engaging here

i'm desperate to find villas since i had WDC and Dustin both villa, and Books is doing the thing where he only thinks I'm a wolf, and Dustin is starting to do the thing where he's being way too hedgy about his role and mine + self voting

remember when you said i was only half a wolf? i thought that was nice. now i'm your top wolf

go back to thinking i was not a wolf, you were doing good then

They are clearly wrong, either because they're protecting you w/w or (more likely) they didn't follow my d1 posting and realize how explicitly likely it was that I'd be targeting you)

You'd get this as a villager.

Give it up

No I'm definitely a villager. I know that for sure. You I just think are a villager.

wonderful. JDalla's logic makes more sense to me but this wolf list has a lot of overlap with a lot of my current list. I also think I agree with the DMK read on balance. He's had some good posts (I think I've noted) but the overall body of work is bad - and I still can't shake how he called Birdman one of the only 'cleared villagers' early today while also trying to lead a wagon on birdman yesterday.

So what's more likely - I'm a bad villager or shorty is actually a villager?

mrs. jonnyd looking much, much, much better than when I left.

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These drive-by votes are really creeping me out and the gusmahler wagon is poopy.

What does this mean? BobO couldn't have roleblocked you?

village roleblocker does not block villager actions. So if village roleblocker blocks JDalla it means he's a wolf.