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02-15-2012 , 01:19 AM

#926

PBJaxx

2010 WSOP November 9er

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,329

I think you rock, Karak. Thanks for sharing what you know.

Last edited by PBJaxx; 02-15-2012 at 01:20 AM. Reason: lol at anyone who gets mean if things don't work out

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02-15-2012 , 01:26 AM

#927

LirvA

banned

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43,568

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Originally Posted by TheEngineer

I also wanted a mechanism for consumer protection.

That's not what you've told me before imo. Before you've said if you had it your way, things would be pretty much exactly as I advocated (online poker free from government regulation, consumers regulating the sites themselves through the free market)

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02-15-2012 , 01:28 AM

#928

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,330

got him!

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02-15-2012 , 01:44 AM

#929

gnvsnnkv

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,455

I just hope this whole hush-hush thing is done so as to get iPoker the least attention possible. I mean those are like the ultimate High Stakes, so it's pretty safe to assume those people are playing this strategic, positional game outside the Senate Hall (or wtv you call it) as hard as inside...

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02-15-2012 , 01:49 AM

#930

David99

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 452

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Originally Posted by gnvsnk

this is why it is good if they can advertise it as a casino ban instead of a poker legalization. everyone wins.

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02-15-2012 , 01:53 AM

#931

LirvA

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

got him!

Yes yes, I'm here for the party.

GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION SOMETHING SOMETHING FREEDOM SOMETHING!

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02-15-2012 , 01:54 AM

#932

b finkelstein

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 667

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Originally Posted by LirvA

oh no now this guy is here to derail the thread, banonlinepoker called in his backup.please take it to another thread lirva

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02-15-2012 , 01:54 AM

#933

LirvA

banned

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43,568

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Originally Posted by David99

this is why it is good if they can advertise it as a casino ban instead of a poker legalization. everyone wins.

Except for those who, you know, don't want casino games banned.

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02-15-2012 , 01:56 AM

#934

LirvA

banned

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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt

Take your pessimism elsewhere.

EDIT: because regulated poker > sweats, hearings, and action > doing nothing and getting UIGEA II.

Funny how doing something is resulting in UIGEA II imo.

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02-15-2012 , 01:57 AM

#935

spacegod

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 371

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Originally Posted by Karak

unfortunately my bat charger broke

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02-15-2012 , 02:07 AM

#936

DrewOnTilt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,748

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Funny how doing something is resulting in UIGEA II imo.

And here we go. I figured LirvA would come out of his hole at some point.

If "UIGEA II" means that I can get access to licensed and regulated poker then I'll take it and thank say thank you sir may I have another.

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02-15-2012 , 02:11 AM

#937

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

Folks please do not forget to use your ignore option as necessary.

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02-15-2012 , 02:12 AM

#938

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,724

actually how about lirva just stops posting in this thread if he's going to continue on his derails. im sure there's another thread where it's more relevant.

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02-15-2012 , 02:16 AM

#939

alien prophet

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 54

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Yes yes, I'm here for the party.

GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION SOMETHING SOMETHING FREEDOM SOMETHING!

Almost 30k posts! Yowzas, LirvA!

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02-15-2012 , 02:23 AM

#940

LirvA

banned

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Originally Posted by Karak

actually how about lirva just stops posting in this thread if he's going to continue on his derails. im sure there's another thread where it's more relevant.

Sorry, I'm not trying to derail. Just replying to some posts imo. god forbid there be opposing opinions in this forum.

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02-15-2012 , 02:29 AM

#941

alien prophet

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Sorry, I'm not trying to derail. Just replying to some posts imo. god forbid there be opposing opinions in this forum.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I spent all night at work thinking something great might go down when I got home, and so far that hasn't been the case. Maybe when I wake up in the morning. Good night.

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02-15-2012 , 02:39 AM

#942

Roush97

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 357

It's been a fun ride but I'm just going to convince myself that this is not going to happen so I can emotionally freeroll this ****.

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02-15-2012 , 02:48 AM

#943

Gim_Mick

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 373

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Sorry, I'm not trying to derail. Just replying to some posts imo. god forbid there be opposing opinions in this forum.

This thread isn't about opinions. It isn't about government controls, or opt in/out, or rake, or what the bill should look like...

It is a sweat about whether it got attached or not. So opinions and politics don't need to be here.

There are plenty of other threads that you can troll. I am sure you are familiar with them all.

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02-15-2012 , 02:56 AM

#944

LirvA

banned

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43,568

I'm not sure you know what the definition of trolling is.

Do I understand this correctly? If this is attached and passed, there can be no mark ups or amendments to it, and however it is written now will be the law of the land?

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02-15-2012 , 02:58 AM

#945

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

I've gotten in touch with a few congressional reporters who are all over this tax cut bill. They seem very interested in this story and I've gotten a lot of "I'll look into this" responses but so far nobody has confirmed anything.

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02-15-2012 , 03:01 AM

#946

_Goldseraph_

old hand

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

thanks for your efforts

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02-15-2012 , 03:09 AM

#947

Gim_Mick

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 373

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Originally Posted by LirvA

I am not sure you understand the definition of this a thread that is just sweating the attachment, not a discussion of how the bill is architected, or how online poker should be regulated, or any other discussions of should it or should it not be legal.

There are other threads for that, go troll them

reported.

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02-15-2012 , 03:09 AM

#948

DrewOnTilt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,748

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Awesome work, sluggger.

That's much better than hearing a flat-out "no."

It also means that I'll be working late again tomorrow after having wasted a good 10% of my day refreshing my browser.

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02-15-2012 , 03:33 AM

#949

Will Poker 4 Food

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 296

I love the sweat and as much info as I can get, but I do also think that they may be keeping this quiet for a reason.

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02-15-2012 , 04:22 AM

#950

Rich Muny

Former PPA VP

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 28,236

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Originally Posted by LirvA

That's a mechanism.

Libertarianism does not work without a means for enforcement of contracts. In fact, truly free markets don't really work at all without a legal structure in place to facilitate contract enforcement. I'm not talking about new laws here (though the Barton Bill would create new laws aimed at consumer protection). Rather, I'm talking about courts which would simply enforce the terms entered into by the parties.

The way things are now, sites enforce contracts unilaterally on players, but players have no recourse at all to enforce any terms on sites.

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