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02-14-2012 , 09:56 PM

#851

Y2Dennis

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To be fair UIGEA was almost completely dead before it got slipped in, too.

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02-14-2012 , 09:58 PM

#852

jjriverrun

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Originally Posted by tbrick412

I think if the bill comes out of committee it can't be amended... as in poker can't be attached. Hopefully I'm wrong

This is all I meant. Pure speculation, but fairly significant for Reid to say he prefers no amendments to the bill. The odds that this would be included in the committee version are slim to none.

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02-14-2012 , 09:58 PM

#853

bsktbllkng237

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 190

I thought it might be attached as part of the unemployment insurance/do
c fix part of the legislation..... Things have yet to cleared up yet/Hope is not lost yet.....

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02-14-2012 , 09:59 PM

#854

NoahSD

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If the bill comes out of conference committee, then the bill as it comes out of conference committee cannot be amended before it comes to a vote.

In other words, if poker is included in the conference committee version, then both chambers vote on the bill with poker attached. If it is not attached in the conference committee version, then both chambers vote on the bill without poker.

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02-14-2012 , 10:00 PM

#855

antneye

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I hate to be a pest to Karak, but he has not weighed in with what he is hearing, so the sweats not over yet imo.

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02-14-2012 , 10:00 PM

#856

rizeagainst

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Does everything with the government just happen behind closed doors? I feel like I have no ****ing clue what is going on

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02-14-2012 , 10:01 PM

#857

thedinergetsby

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You guys it's not in conference yet.

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02-14-2012 , 10:02 PM

#858

CeJeH

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Sucks that this isn't going to happen, but I will never understand why soo many people on this site get so excited for these things based on flimsy rumors with no evidence to back it up. How often have situations like this actually worked out in our favor in the history of online poker? Pretty sure that number is ZERO! Sad but true

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02-14-2012 , 10:04 PM

#859

NoahSD

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Originally Posted by antneye

I hate to be a pest to Karak, but he has not weighed in with what he is hearing, so the sweats not over yet imo.

I don't think Karak's hearing **** moment by moment.

I certainly don't think that the sweat is over, and I really doubt that we'll know whether it's going to be included until we see the text of the bill (or all relevant bills, if they're separated).

As is true in almost all of these situations, you guys would probably be way better off if you go do something else for a week and then come back and see what happened.

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02-14-2012 , 10:04 PM

#860

LT22

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

ding ding ding

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02-14-2012 , 10:04 PM

#861

LT22

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New PPA Action logo?

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02-14-2012 , 10:05 PM

#862

antneye

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Originally Posted by CeJeH

all it takes is one time to be successful. How many times did UIGEA fail before it passed? Does that even matter 6 yrs. later?

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02-14-2012 , 10:05 PM

#863

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

i was under the impression that karak had an office next door to this thing and was listening in through a highball glass....

also that refreshing and commenting in this thread gives him the strength to continue.

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02-14-2012 , 10:05 PM

#864

kevinb1983

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Originally Posted by CeJeH

well considering its only like the second time ever we've had a legitimate sweat I say excitement is perfectly reasonable.

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02-14-2012 , 10:06 PM

#865

antneye

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

agreed on all points....but i'll likely just stay here sipping wine and clicking f5

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02-14-2012 , 10:07 PM

#866

rizeagainst

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Originally Posted by CeJeH

I have respect for Karak. I trust his trust in his sources. I don't think he or them are creating things out of thin air.

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02-14-2012 , 10:07 PM

#867

Rich Muny

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

Well before Black Friday you wanted the US gov to sign off on offshore poker as it was. This of course was before FTP showed us what we already knew.

No, not at all. I knew online poker was destined to fail as it was prior to Black Friday. There was no way the U.S. would have a system that barred U.S. based sites while permitting offshore ones. It was inherently unstable.

I also wanted a mechanism for consumer protection.

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02-14-2012 , 10:09 PM

#868

bsktbllkng237

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There definitely still is a sweat, If a poker bill is going to be attached the last thing that legislators on both of the sides of the aisle would want is for it to come out to the public before the bill has passed. So until the text of the bill has been released there is a sweat.

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02-14-2012 , 10:10 PM

#869

CeJeH

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Originally Posted by rizeagainst

I have respect for Karak. I trust his trust in his sources. I don't think he or them are creating things out of thin air.

I don't know Karak but he seems to have a lot of credibility around here, so I trust his information and judgement. I am not saying he nor anyone else in this forum is doing anything wrong by reporting on these things. I guess I'm just butthurt because I see an 800+ reply thread about iPoker passing on the bill and get excited and it turns out to be nothing all over again

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02-14-2012 , 10:12 PM

#870

Calm And Collected

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Yeah regulated poker in America is simply not going to happen. Like, if there was an option to attach regulated poker or the requirement that everyone has to eat **** out of an elephants ass once per year the government is SNAP attaching the eat elephant **** and it's not even close to being close.

****ing pieces of ****.

It's hilarious watching everyone get all excited for something that at most had 0.0001% equity and that's being extremely generous.

LOL IM HEARING GOOD RUMORS.....LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

cool story, bruhhhhhh

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02-14-2012 , 10:13 PM

#871

DrDankrx23

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Originally Posted by bsktbllkng237

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02-14-2012 , 10:14 PM

#872

CeJeH

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Originally Posted by kevinb1983

well considering its only like the second time ever we've had a legitimate sweat I say excitement is perfectly reasonable.

Technically UIGEA was a sweat as well (more like an anti-sweat) and we lost that one so that counts against us as well.

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02-14-2012 , 10:15 PM

#873

DrewOnTilt

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Originally Posted by Calm And Collected

words words words

cool story, bruhhhhhh

Take your pessimism elsewhere.

EDIT: because regulated poker > sweats, hearings, and action > doing nothing and getting UIGEA II.

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02-14-2012 , 10:15 PM

#874

Calm And Collected

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Guys when the bill is released and no ipoker regulation is attached there's still a chance that we could be dreaming or something.

#lolsources

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02-14-2012 , 10:16 PM

#875

Calm And Collected

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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt

Take your pessimism elsewhere.

I'm not, if anything im being optimistic.

Either way, being pessimistic or optimistic doesn't help nor hurt the chances of it being attached.

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