Okay. I'd like to see your summary soon...

I haven't seen him around. I assume he'd give his details to Jalex.

My Fox reference was more about 4chan/Anonymous who are "hackers on steroids" and a "internet hate machine" that apparently can make your computer explode or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY

so who is the judge for the 10k 'honesty' escrow? maybe we should decide that after things get totally ****ed up lol

well, to be fair, anyone with half a brain would not make such a discernible link if something shady was going on. it would be the smoking gun.

Can the escrow Barewire shed his opinion or any light on the revealings since he knows OP IRL?

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Not showing the chat logs is just icing on the cake. If you had've shown your chat log for the period of the bet and they were clean you and gary would be in a MUCH better situation. Why in the name of god wouldn't you show them if it would clear you names? You say its because it's your "friend's convos too". Eh, innocent chat logs for the period of the bet would've gone a huge way towards proving you are innocent. You could've saved gary from losing 12.5K and his stars account, why would he have any problem with that? We all know it would take the sting out of the accusations big time if you have a chat logs with gary for the period of the bet and they are innocent.

And only jalex, the judge, would've seen them. It's not like your private convo's would be broadcast to the entire 2+2 community. You had zero to lose and everything to gain by showing them. This is just more BS.



This is great. Are you subconsciously looking to get caught or something? You sent the money the day before the prop bet lol - ANOTHER amazing coincidence. Anyway, I'll tell you what it means....You sent a player who's regular game is $2 sng's alot more than they even lost. Why would you be sending a microstakes sng player, who hardly even plays from the look of it, and who hasn't played since March 19 so much money???? I'll tell you why, because if gary was down even more money in this bet this microstakes player was under orders to dump even more cash to him. You must think we are all simpletons here. Why were you sending this microstakes sng player so much money...they haven't even played since March 19. I'm sure you have a great reason (read: lie) as to why you would be sending this player so much money, let's hear it.

Now not only do we have RoSeeker connected to the two suspected microstakes chip dumpers who appeared out of nowhere, we also have him admitting to sending a hefty sum of cash to one of them the day before the bet. Lol, money that was in RoSeekers account on March 18, (after being transferred to the chip dumper) ended up in gary's on March 19.

all of Roseekers excuses/lies are just tilting the **** out of me

I'm wondering about stars investigation here. These guys obviously cheated/chip dumped in this prop bet, thereby breaking the rules of the bet - but did they break any stars rules? I mean, is there even such a thing as chip dumping in a cash game, outside of trying scam a prop bet there is absolutely no reason to do it. So are there even rules against it?

From what I can see, the cheating in this prop bet didn't hurt any of the other players at the tables, it only hurt the 2+2 members who bet against gary. So can pokerstars find them guilty of cheating if they didn't actually cheat any pokerstars players?

"I also have plans to banning myself from 2+2 for a month, but I will decide on that next post, perhaps next week or on the 15th or something.

But I do have a superiority complex (as well a gambling problem), so scraps it is yes—You, sir reader (or ms.), will be fed scraps off my table—a stable and consistent flow of literary diarrhea (well, mostly vomit, I am an alcoholic as well as a problem gambler), fear not, it won’t break my heart if you don’t read my blog.

(But I will be happy if you do.)

(That was a lie because I love my scraps.)

This is why I play poker. It satisfies my sadistic side.

Crushing dreams and owning souls, this is what we do.

No, I have not stopped posting, I have simply made a new account. It’s not meant to be a secret, exactly, but I want to keep it lower profile so people don’t bother me whilst I am playing as much."

--Anonymous

Well I already explained that she said she played live before. She lived in more expensive accommodation than I did in an expensive university, so I assume she's not poor, even if she's not a poker reg.

It's clear the chance of her ending up playing OP is unlikely, but it certainly does make sense.

It's not "another amazing coincidence" it's the same coincidence except not as amazing because it's 1 day off, but still a big coincidence. I mean she got money to play, obviously she's going to play immediately, she's not going to wait a couple of days to play.

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Chip dumping is definitely against stars rules...

Cliffs for the FSM's sake!

Eh, are you for real?? You are both poker players, you are this players poker coach, you were conducting a transfer of a nice big lump of cash into this players poker account. And you didn't talk about poker? You expect us to believe this nonsense?

if jalex is in contact with gary, is it safe to assume that he denied the request of viewing the chat log?

seems pretty f'd if nobody is able to get in contact with gary and it doesnt look so good that gary isnt stepping up to the plate to save roseeker's ass of this viewing burden.

Looks like you are just about out of lies. You hardly even tried there. You avoided my question in that post so I'll ask you it again, I'm expecting a straight out lie as an answer but I'll ask it again anyway.

"Why were you sending this microstakes sng player so much money...they haven't even played since March 19. I'm sure you have a great reason (read: lie) as to why you would be sending this player so much money, let's hear it."

And within the last 2 minutes, the blog was deleted. Good thing I already had someone check it out and screen captured it all.

Did you read my post?

She's just some person who plays poker in home games, I don't think she's understands poker strategy very much. People who aren't poker regs or make money from poker play all the time. She's just a live player, this happens all the time. I've met tonnes of live players who don't know anything about br management.

She played some micros because she wanted to try it a little, I imagine she was busy or didn't try very much, or played in home games when she did, she told me about playing so I know she played some. Maybe because it's end of term she wanted to splash around? How would I know?

Why would I be sending this player money? She gave me cash on the spot, so I did. How hard is that to explain? This isn't nonsense at all. Wow, random tourists randomly sit down and lose hundreds of dollars all the time, much less a rich student, not to mention she's probably played a lot in home games with donks, so she's probably not terrible or anything.

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my blog's just me blogging, why on earth are you bringing it in all the time. I rant and say random stuff, I'm bound to occasionally be drunk or something or mispell something or just seem like an idiot, what's your point? What's with your hate for me?

Shane, I believe you when you say that you have a "gambling problem" and that you are a "problem gambler" in the same sentence. I hope you get help. Be sure to let Pokerstars know about this so they can refer you in the right direction.

omg, so good.

Seriously, you are only making a fool out of yourself at this stage.

"How would I know"...that is a great question. You have a microstakes player, a friend and student of yours, asking you to transfer a relatively huge amount of cash into their account and you didn't even enquire about what was up? Why do you seem to have a 'no poker talk' rule with this poker playing friend and student of yours?

This is just pathetic at this stage.

we all know ricky martin is gay but he finally admitted to the world and himself that he is today:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/sto...omosexual-man/

we all also know that you guys are some really sloppy cheaters, so when can we expect you all to stop wasting time and just confirm what everyone has already pieced together?

She is not my student.

Wow, you seriously? Okay, I'll post an extract from my PM to Jalex.

I don't even care anymore about responding to people like you. My chat history is my own property, I've transferred money for people, but I haven't done anything wrong. I've emailed people to send their stuff in, but they either haven't got it, is ignoring me, or hasn't replied yet. That's not my business anymore.

I'm going to show Jalex my transfers and that's it.

cliffs please?

+11111111111

If OP gets his $, there is no justice. It was pretty obvious he cheated a week ago, how is thee no ruling yet

If someone's gonna do them, make them comprehensive. What we don't need are people who hardly read the thread posting cliffs as has happened on more than one occasion so far. Everytime someone posts up a half-assed cliffs it drags the discussion back 50 pages.

I'll do em in the morning (GMT), if no-one else does em before that.

Ok, thank you.