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03-29-2010 , 06:00 PM
Also if jalex breaks his conditions I want an epic tr from krantz posted on bbv about what he did with the money
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03-29-2010 , 06:00 PM
jesus roseeker, why arent you on the horn with gary, getting the ok to disclose the chat logs between you and him?

you are leaving the mob no choice.

let gary make the determination and put it on him.

question, where the f is gary now?
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03-29-2010 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by darkconcept
relax bud, it's just an internet conversation. don't act like you two we're discussing classified information, this isn't hollywood. nobody cares what your opinions on the latest season of the wire are.

frankly you should be more emabrassed your rep is tarnished because you refused you release some mundane conversation histories.
Well, tbh, if we found out they don't like The Wire that would make them shady as hell.
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03-29-2010 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
yeah thats ok, just that one guy being an asshat I think (although if you could remove the video, it was supposed to be private iirc )
Just did.
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03-29-2010 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Also if jalex breaks his conditions I want an epic tr from krantz posted on bbv about what he did with the money
haha, well my INTENT was that if I violated someone, they would get the money, not krantz.

BUT, I'm 100% sure krantz would do something TR worthy with it, so maybe we should modify the escrow terms!

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03-29-2010 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
No, I told him Nostalgica was my real account at first, because I used it to make videos. I was hoping I could still coach at that point. Not anymore.

in b4 LIARRRrrr

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I can't use chatlogs anymore, they wouldn't mean anything, and I went back and checked and it turns out I've only got one part where he said something about multi-accounting FB and I was spazzing out because Jalex found it. Whatever, they shouldn't mean anything in the first place.
obviously, your determinations on these subjects arent satisfying anyone. just disclose them.

i repeat, where is gary to save your ass?
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03-29-2010 , 06:07 PM
So are you going to make a website telling everyone where I live and how they can lynch me or not?

Spoiler:
har har I still have a sense of humour...?
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03-29-2010 , 06:08 PM
tried my best to keep up but a mans gotta sleep lol, so what has happened here in the last few days, basically only concerned with wat was stars' decision if any and wat is this 10k thing regarding jalex...

Thanks
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03-29-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
oh wow, this is an eye opener, and why the hell would you put this onto your facebook page?

I mean a sociopath would never do that; almost seems like he wants attention?
When your narcissistic disorder is stronger than your psychopathology:
1. You would feel the way RoSeeker described in his facebook post, and
2. You would want the world to pay attention to you, ideally through fame, but through infamy if necessary.
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03-29-2010 , 06:09 PM
A tribute to Jalex, never has this viral been more apt:

http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1269900469519RA20
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03-29-2010 , 06:10 PM
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obviously, your determinations on these subjects arent satisfying anyone. just disclose them.

i repeat, where is gary to save your ass?
I THINK he is merely unavailable.

Since I decided I will not show them because I didn't have OP's permission (he was not online, and I don't have his phone number), I might as well wait for him to decide whether to post it. I also don't actually have anything at all aside from ONE incident, and lots of convo before. I have been travelling since the 19th, due to term break.
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03-29-2010 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
I THINK he is merely unavailable.

Since I decided I will not show them because I didn't have OP's permission (he was not online, and I don't have his phone number), I might as well wait for him to decide whether to post it. I also don't actually have anything at all aside from ONE incident, and lots of convo before. I have been travelling since the 19th, due to term break.
Seriously, posting them now would be a huge LOL.

But I'd love to see any discussion about me, so please share that.
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03-29-2010 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
I might as well wait for him to decide whether to post it.
As was explicitly explained to you by Jalex, the only time the chatlogs would mean anything is if it was looked at during the teamviewer session as obviously as soon as he dc/d you can doctor it as much as you want. Still be fun to see the abuse though lol
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03-29-2010 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sjp507
A tribute to Jalex, never has this viral been more apt:

http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1269900469519RA20
lol.
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03-29-2010 , 06:18 PM
As i have read most of the thread, I really dont see why we have to wait for Pokerstars to come out with what they find. The judges have the power to make the decision which is why they were chosen to be judges in the first place. So if Pokerstars comes out and states they dont suspect any foul play Gary wins the bet?

The evidence states that Roseeker transferred money to one of the chip dumpers on the 19th of March, where the player then went on to play 1/2 (which they never play) to essentially lose that amount to gary, which ultimately allowed him to win the bet. Are you kidding me? THIS BET SHOULD BE OVER! I dont care what Roseeker has to say, or any explanation he can articulate or emphasize, if I placed a bet on this, I would be demanding my money back. This is no coincidence, and even if by some one in a billion chance it were, it should still be enough to nullify the bet. Its ridiculous that the argument is still going on. Roseeker obviously sent the money which was dumped to Gary to win the bet. The ONLY real question left is to determine if Gary had anything to do with it. Roseeker obviously corrupted the prop bet and the evidence shows it.

Its a shame that the bet had to end this way but sometimes thats the way things go. Jalex and those investigating have done a great job and provided more than enough evidence to prove this prop bet was fixed. Its now time for the judges to make their own decision and end the inevitable.
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03-29-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
Maybe gary and roseeker have a gay relationship?

or theyre incredibly guilty. He does make it sound like he knew gary was going to cheat but wasnt profiting from it
Or maybe they don't have a gay relationship or they are not incredibly guilty.

I understand the desire of some of the principals to get this resolved and to get their monies back. I even understand how someone can let himself eat up the press he is getting and believe he is some sort of one man Warren Comission but this whole thread/investigation has become, to quote Clarence Thomas, "a high tech lynching."

Anyone who doesn't do what the script calls for is somehow involved and guilty. All for not doing what the masses demand. It's McCarthyism at best.

Still, the best we have is that Gary has some shady/ethically challenged friends. It's time for the judges to make a decision while there is still a slight sense of impartiality in this matter.
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03-29-2010 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
No, I told him Nostalgica was my real account at first, because I used it to make videos. I was hoping I could still coach at that point. Not anymore.

in b4 LIARRRrrr
You are a liar and you lie in such obvious ways it's amazing you don't think more before you speak. If you are actually innocent, but don't get "acquitted" then you have no one to blame but yourself. I am not a hateful person, so I don't wish you any harm, but whether you're innocent or guilty I hope you learn something from all this.

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I can't use chatlogs anymore, they wouldn't mean anything, and I went back and checked and it turns out I've only got one part where he said something about multi-accounting FB and I was spazzing out because Jalex found it. Whatever, they shouldn't mean anything in the first place.
Easy to say after checking them. That's why jalex wanted to ask for them on the spot.
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03-29-2010 , 06:20 PM
lol @ not showing chat-logs that can help clear you (and win you "your" monies) just because the other guy might not approve. It's not like they would get broadcasted to the entire BBV (and if they did you'd be $10k richer anyways)
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03-29-2010 , 06:24 PM
I was more swearing in general, not at you. I think I called you f ing ridiculous or something like that, and for what it's worth, I was the one who called it "internet terrorism". George Bush would have loved it, as would Fox News.

Believe it or not, I feel a lot better now that I've shown you the transactions, even though people are jumping on it as I was afraid. My part is more or less over in this. Decision is in your hands.

semi relevant to bet: I found my RSA key. I can show you the transactions again if you want. It was NOT altered in any way, etc etc etc.

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The evidence states that Roseeker transferred money to one of the chip dumpers on the 19th of March, where the player then went on to play 1/2 (which they never play) to essentially lose that amount to gary, which ultimately allowed him to win the bet.
This is picking on details, but I think it's a timezone stamp thing but I definitely sent the money the day before the propbet. I also sent a lot more than the amount she lost, but what does that mean?

Oh, and I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BET. I don't see how the bet can be won by OP now, without causing a lot of anger. That's not what I am fighting for.

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so I don't wish you any harm, but whether you're innocent or guilty I hope you learn something from all this.
I most certainly have, I am really just worried that I'll get harassed over this controversy for the rest of my life because of some website with my name on it, okay?

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03-29-2010 , 06:27 PM
Well, now, everybody knows why poker is illegal outside casinos in most countries...
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03-29-2010 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker

semi relevant to bet: I found my RSA key. I can show you the transactions again if you want. It was NOT altered in any way, etc etc etc.
I'd be happy to do this late tonight or tomorrow, purely to provide confirmation that the emailed transactions were not edited.

Also, Fox News _OR_ CNN would have been glad to put you in the electric chair by now. They don't tend to care much about facts. Also, pretty sure they'd have published personal info day 1.
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03-29-2010 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dietch
Well, now, everybody knows why poker is illegal outside casinos in most countries...
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03-29-2010 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dietch
Well, now, everybody knows why poker is illegal outside casinos in most countries...
Why's that?
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03-29-2010 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
I THINK he is merely unavailable.

Since I decided I will not show them because I didn't have OP's permission (he was not online, and I don't have his phone number), I might as well wait for him to decide whether to post it. I also don't actually have anything at all aside from ONE incident, and lots of convo before. I have been travelling since the 19th, due to term break.
you say he is a friend. would you say he hasnt been paying attention or at the very least, not being updated on the current state of affairs pertaining to this situation?

you understand that its getting to the point where neither one of you deserve the benefit of doubt, correct?
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03-29-2010 , 06:35 PM
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Roseeker obviously corrupted the prop bet and the evidence shows it.
This isn't exactly correct. If someone who lost money to OP was sent money, then that person was sent money to chip dump? The only link is that I knew OP, right? But I had one transfer on stars and none on FTP (AFAIK) this year or in the past half year+, and that transfer was me to him for 21.5. You just can't draw a link to say he paid me to pay someone to chip dump like that, since that has not happened, and you can't say I bought action from him because I haven't, I haven't sent him money for it or anything. You're just saying that I MAY have done it, but you can speculate a very wide possibility of things.
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