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12-06-2014 , 11:11 AM
Hip, this is the "coach moves" thread, not the "random unsolicited smack talk" thread, which is pretty much every other cfb thread. I'm not a big *rules* guy, but try to at least work in a "because their coach can't polish a turd" or a pic of a cheerleader or insane one-sided prop or something. Thanks.
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12-06-2014 , 11:18 AM
@BruceFeldmanCFB: #GeorgiaTech announces that Paul Johnson has agreed to 4-year extension through 2020.
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12-06-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
I guess the longer this goes the more likely it is an NFL head coach. If they were going to offer a college dude, it will probably happen by mid-next week.
This is what I've been assuming, though I can't really defend it with any sort of real evidence so meh

Seems like if it was a college guy they'd have announced by now and the new guy would be contacting recruits before more of them decommit

If it was Harbaugh, would they not have to get permission from his current employers to contact him? Or does that only apply to other NFL teams? I have no idea if any sort of tampering rules apply between the NFL and NCAA.
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12-06-2014 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
@BruceFeldmanCFB: #GeorgiaTech announces that Paul Johnson has agreed to 4-year extension through 2020.
This is funny. Coming into the season he was 28-25 over the last 4 years and I heard a lot of chatter that Tech fans were unhappy about the contract/buyout for CPJ. Was hearing that the buyout and the financial position of GT made it very difficult to fire him if they wanted to.

Perfect timing for a great season for him and he gets extended for 4 more years, through 6 more seasons.

I have no idea if this is a good move or not. Would love some GT posters' feedback. I know this year has been extremely exciting and rewarding, but do you think this is a blip on the radar in between 6-8 win seasons, or is this a start of being the premier team in the Coastal? I am not being a sour grapes UGA guy here, btw. Tech absolutely deserves all of the success they have had this season.

Just seems like a pretty long and perhaps unnecessary extension because of 1 good season in the last 5. Are they really worried he's going to leave for a better opportunity? If it were me, I'd want to see what next year brings before committing to an additional 4 years.
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12-06-2014 , 11:42 AM
I don't see how there could be tampering rules, the NFL has no control over NCAA schools. It would be more of a matter of courtesy. There have been rumors that Michigan has contacted the 49ers, possibly to discuss a buyout so SF gets something out of Harbaugh leaving (otherwise, they can trade his contract).

Reading between the lines from all the "good" info out there, I think this is basically what has happened so far in Ann Arbor:

1. Harbaugh and Hackett have met and discussed mutual interest.

2. Harbaugh hasn't committed to anything, but has left Michigan with the belief that he will come if things work out right.

3. Michigan is gauging interest in backup candidates should Harbaugh not come. Names being floated are Mora, Stoops and Miles.

4. Michigan intends on hiring a coach in the ~first week of January. There was a report that Hackett met with the team yesterday and told them to expect to have a coach when they come back from Christmas break.
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12-06-2014 , 11:59 AM
Perhaps dumb, we are talking BOB Stoops right?

Seems like a weird move for him.
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12-06-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
I have no idea if this is a good move or not. Would love some GT posters' feedback. I know this year has been extremely exciting and rewarding, but do you think this is a blip on the radar in between 6-8 win seasons, or is this a start of being the premier team in the Coastal?
All depends on what it means for building out the rest of the staff. From the sound of it a lot of what he wanted was more money for assistants and recruiting.

That's been his focus for a while now, actually. He recently got budget to up the recruiting staff from 1 (seriously, a single recruiter) to 3 ('sup Joe Ham) and has used the increase in APR performance to get more "exceptions" agains GT's standard SAT/GPA acceptance criteria (still have to have 4 years of HS math, science, etc).

We've finally got what appears to be a mediocre of better DC and I'd like to pay him enough to stick around. If we can pair a top-50 D with improved recruiting then I don't see why we can't be perennial contenders for division and conference championships (since we already basically are).
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12-06-2014 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Perhaps dumb, we are talking BOB Stoops right?

Seems like a weird move for him.
Yes. I don't think he would ever move, he just seems to be one of the guys Michigan wants to talk to if Harbaugh says no. Hackett knows how important this hire is, after two prior failures. He's going to aim high and at least gauge interest from big names just in case.
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12-06-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Hip, this is the "coach moves" thread, not the "random unsolicited smack talk" thread, which is pretty much every other cfb thread. I'm not a big *rules* guy, but try to at least work in a "because their coach can't polish a turd" or a pic of a cheerleader or insane one-sided prop or something. Thanks.
A scissor lift mention always works, too.

InB4 Michigan hires the N. Illinois coach.
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12-06-2014 , 05:13 PM
Michigan waiting until after playoff to hire Kiffin, ldo
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12-06-2014 , 05:55 PM
GT extending Johnson makes sense.

He keeps them in the mix, in ACC title game for what the 3rd time? Had a BCS appearance etc. pretty solid all around. So long as Miami and VT are in the dumps Johnson keeps GT in a good position.

Seems reasonable compared to places like Nebraska who handed Pelini a fat extension early this year despite him being on the hot seat and being widely hated. What the chances of GT firing Johnson any time soon?


Also could easily beat FSU tonight depending on whether Jameis' deal with the devil is still in effect.
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12-06-2014 , 06:03 PM
GT's upside from a new coach is limited (are they ever going to be a national powerhouse like they were decades ago?), but the downside from a new coach is limitless (they could easily slip into complete obscurity).
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12-06-2014 , 08:22 PM
RJ Bell @RJinVegas · 5h 5 hours ago
Sportsbook.ag tells me action kept pouring in on Jim Harbaugh as next Michigan coach no matter how low they made the odds.

RJ Bell @RJinVegas · 5h 5 hours ago
Sportsbook.ag afraid "someone might know more about his coaching situation than us" so Harbaugh as next Michigan coach betting was suspended

this guy has exhibited minimal derpage in the past
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12-06-2014 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
GT's upside from a new coach is limited (are they ever going to be a national powerhouse like they were decades ago?), but the downside from a new coach is limitless (they could easily slip into complete obscurity).
You could make the same argument with keeping Johnson though.
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12-06-2014 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
You could make the same argument with keeping Johnson though.
Not really

Johnson = known quantity with good track record there. in running for conf title regularly, pretty good result for a school like GT.

New coach= totally unknown quantity and GT is a job with far far more potential to slide into the abyss than to soar to perennially top 10 finishes. See: chan gailey era for reference.

Keeping Johnson seems slight upside, minimal downside.

New coach, still slight upside, but massive potential downside

Do you disagree? Or do you think tech has some big potential waiting to be unlocked? The college football world is totally different than the last time tech was a real power and I think they are punching at their weight right now.

Not a tech fan btw
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12-06-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
@BruceFeldmanCFB: #GeorgiaTech announces that Paul Johnson has agreed to 4-year extension through 2020.
Richt unveils the Mission Accomplished banner.
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12-06-2014 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
GT's upside from a new coach is limited (are they ever going to be a national powerhouse like they were decades ago?), but the downside from a new coach is limitless (they could easily slip into complete obscurity).
PJ is such a good fit for GT - they'll never be big enough where they can get a big time coach, he'll never get them to an elite level, but can come out with enough luck to shoot for division championships. Keep him as long as you can. And anyone who knows my posting history will know what I think of the triple option and PJ. Perfect example of knowing your place in the world and hitting that ceiling.
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12-06-2014 , 10:28 PM
I think CPJ is a great fit at Tech, but 28-25 for the 4 years prior is pretty mediocre.
It appeared before this year, that he came in and immediately had some success, as they won the ACC title in his 2nd year, and then mediocre since.

People weren't thrilled. Obviously this year happens and they should be thrilled but he was already signed through 2016. I'm definitely not advocating firing him or anything, just thought that the school didn't have to extend him 4 years. Just don't see him leaving or anything. Seemed like a quick move.

That being said, I haven't really seen any of the details so for all I know the buyout may not be that bad, but it was before so it probably still is.
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12-07-2014 , 06:10 AM
Navy has a good excuse to run the triple option as their educational mission is basically incompatible with a modern lineman. GaTech has no such excuse. PJ clings to that offense because it's his comfort zone.
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12-07-2014 , 09:35 AM
well, it seems like it works pretty damn well.
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12-07-2014 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Navy has a good excuse to run the triple option as their educational mission is basically incompatible with a modern lineman. GaTech has no such excuse. PJ clings to that offense because it's his comfort zone.
You've ignored good posts on this same page if you honestly underrate Tech's recruiting disadvantages this much. Or are you calling out Tech for not spending more and caring less about academics? That seems kinda dumb, too. It's their program to run how they see fit, and honestly they are probably extremely happy with the results they get while keeping their standards where they want.
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12-07-2014 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Navy has a good excuse to run the triple option as their educational mission is basically incompatible with a modern lineman. GaTech has no such excuse. PJ clings to that offense because it's his comfort zone.
You mean the 224 lb. weight limit to graduate? That? Oh, well, I mean...if you're going to count *that*.
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12-07-2014 , 11:50 AM
@RapSheet: The University of Michigan has reached out to #49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, sources say. U-M left convinced he wanted to be an @NFL coach

I get the feeling harbaugh isn't happening but what do I know.
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12-08-2014 , 11:53 AM
I continue to think that it's silly to report Harbaugh denials until he's not actively coaching. WTF else is he going to say/leak. On the other side you've got Mich clearly just chilling and waiting and making it clear they're doing that when they talk about their timelines.
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12-08-2014 , 12:10 PM
He could say:

"I'm committed to finishing the regular season with the San Francisco 49ers, but the chances of the playoffs are very grim. The idea of coaching the University of Michigan intrigues me and I would be stupid not to at least listen to what they have to say. At the end of the day, I'm going to do what's best for me and my family just like anyone else would do."
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