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12-08-2014 , 12:11 PM
no, he couldn't. that's not how you do media relations and survive.
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12-08-2014 , 12:29 PM
Next he could say:

"I understand that media relations is an important part of my job, but it's about 25th on the list of my priorities. Write what you want to write, but winning games and maximizing my team's performance is 99% of my focus. Do you want a tool who knows what to say or do you want to win?

There are practicalities about this business. One is that I may be fired for a 10-6 season even though my success as the coach of the 49ers has been pretty elite. Yeah, Flacco played out of his mind for four games a couple years ago and we finished runner-up. Things happen.

If standing here in front of the media and speaking these truths hurts my chances of remaining employed here, then so be it. Anyone that follows football, be it pro or college knows that I won't have a hard time finding another excellent position."
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12-08-2014 , 12:31 PM
anger you're making a very key mistake in assume that the truth actually matters in this spot.
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12-08-2014 , 12:32 PM
If he really wants to stay in the NFL, why would he say that? NFL owners don't want their coaches talking to the public like that.
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12-08-2014 , 12:38 PM
There's no reason for him to say anything at this point. It's not like he needs to tell Mich he's interested in public. Every indication is that he has in private.

It's just that "Mich struggling to find a coach" is better click bait than "Everybody is being patient and waiting" so we get these goofy stories. Not a problem for any of hte parties involved, just a problem for bored fans and media.
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12-08-2014 , 12:49 PM
Tennessee just gave an extension to Bitch Jones. This seems like a bad idea.

Edit: oops spelling. Ya know what, I'll keep it the way it is, lol
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12-08-2014 , 12:53 PM
His extension runs to 2020

Lol, 6-6 gets you a raise at Tennessee?
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12-08-2014 , 12:58 PM
11-13 in 2 seasons and have job for another 6.

On the outside, it seems sort of ridiculous. However, let me tell you, Tennessee is extremely excited with Jones. The recruiting the last two years has been pretty absurd. Very young team with tons of potential.

This is where you can really see BigPoppa's bias. He said something about Butch being on hot seat within a year if they don't drastically improve. That just isn't true. UT has accepted where they are and have much more reasonable expectations than many give them credit for. The last 5 or 6 seasons have brought them back to Earth.
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12-08-2014 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
His extension runs to 2020

Lol, 6-6 gets you a raise at Tennessee?
Have a few Tennessee friends, they were ecstatic for going to a bowl.



Probably just happy they finally surpassed Michigan out of the hasbeens.
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12-08-2014 , 01:16 PM
Given where they were 3-4 years ago, the conference in which they play, I don't see how people have much of a problem with Butch. 6-6 in the SEC isn't nothing.
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12-08-2014 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
His extension runs to 2020

Lol, 6-6 gets you a raise at Tennessee?
all the vol morons I know think butch is the second coming and "WATCH OUT NEXT YEAR all them recruits gonna be AWESOME he's BUILDING A MONSTER"
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12-08-2014 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Given where they were 3-4 years ago, the conference in which they play, I don't see how people have much of a problem with Butch. 6-6 in the SEC isn't nothing.
um he went 3-5 in conference with wins over kentucky, vandy, and south carolina so it's not like he's actually beating anyone he doesnt have a massive recruiting advantage over (well i guess south carolina is prob on par)

3 of his wins were utah state, arkansas state, and chatanooga for gods sake
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12-08-2014 , 02:01 PM
And they lost to:

Oklahoma
Georgia
Florida (ok fine)
Ole Miss
Bama
Missouri.

While not great- I don't think 6-6 this year is something that should reflect poorly on the guy.
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12-08-2014 , 02:08 PM
If it were year 3, it should reflect poorly. Not enough to be fired but enough for a hot seat.

Last edited by PocketChads; 12-08-2014 at 02:09 PM. Reason: that particular road to 6-6 i mean
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12-08-2014 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
And they lost to:

Oklahoma
Georgia
Florida (ok fine)
Ole Miss
Bama
Missouri.

While not great- I don't think 6-6 this year is something that should reflect poorly on the guy.
right so he beat the teams he should have beaten other than florida and lost to all the ones he should have lost to. Nothing to be so happy about to reward with a 6 year contract, imo
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12-08-2014 , 02:12 PM
coaches get extended all the time for recruiting purposes... chill out ffs.
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12-08-2014 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
And they lost to:

Oklahoma
Georgia
Florida (ok fine)
Ole Miss
Bama
Missouri.

While not great- I don't think 6-6 this year is something that should reflect poorly on the guy.
And they were really competitive in 3 of those games. Seems LOL on the surface to say that, but it's definitely progress. The program is in much better shape than he got it.
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12-08-2014 , 02:15 PM
Rivals #5 rated class last year, and sitting at #5 this year. There's a bit of reason for excitement for the Vols.
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12-08-2014 , 02:22 PM
Reggie McKenzies son Khalil is going to be a monster for them. Looks like a future top 10 pick to me.
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12-08-2014 , 02:30 PM
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right so he beat the teams he should have beaten other than florida and lost to all the ones he should have lost to. Nothing to be so happy about to reward with a 6 year contract, imo
This is a pretty reductive way to think about a football program IMO.

Especially considering you're ignoring the outside factors as to why he got that contract. (now if you want to make the point that it's dumb to rush to extend a guy to keep a school that wasn't going to hire him from hiring him, that's a much better argument).

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If it were year 3, it should reflect poorly. Not enough to be fired but enough for a hot seat.
This is just dumb. Save Florida (which has enough talent to make up for their coaching when the win blows right) what games should they have won? Even if this happens next year I can't see the exact same results as that damning.

You don't just get better and improve your record in a vacuum. The SEC is like REALLY HARD. If you're hot seat-ing people for finishing 500, you're not going to have a good time.
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12-08-2014 , 02:37 PM
This isn't the west coast where we give people lifetime contracts for being nice, Didley.
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12-08-2014 , 02:44 PM
Nor is this Candyland where the rivers are made of chocolate and the hills marzipan, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

6 years isn't a lifetime, and demonstrating improvement/turning around a program in a difficult environment isn't just being nice.

There's a whole spectrum of programs in the Nebraska/Oklahoma/Tennessee former big powers who have likely lost a lot of their advantages as TV deals have changed the economic realities of college football (making attendance far less important) who are going to have so start being way cooler with 6-6 rebuilding years and 9 win good years. The standards to which coaches in those sorts of programs were held just isn't realistic.
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12-08-2014 , 02:46 PM
Going the same kind of 6-6 next year isn't demonstrating improvement, ducy?
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12-08-2014 , 02:50 PM
Sure- but if I'm making the decision I'm looking at a lot more than just record. (I didn't take your original statement to mean that if they repeated this same season again, that makes more sense).
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12-08-2014 , 02:53 PM
Right, and I didn't even say fired.

Maybe you can't see or don't read people's insta edit comments in the reason for editing line

It's just funny because I was mostly agreeing with you that it is still too early for concern

Just like my throwaway "barely" remark in the fack
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