penn is a ww
tyson griffin is a fw
diego is a ww
ken flo is a fw

u fail good sir

Cause he's still Denis Siver?

I mean come on yes he beat G-Sot but its not like Siver will ever be the champ, or get a shot at the title for that matter.

in b4 hate

Danny ordered that list by who's getting a title shot, not ability.

penn, yeah probably. When he realize he will never get the ww title.

diego, nope. Probably never going down again. He likes ww better, and Dana likes him better at ww.


As for Guida. In a fair ranking based on results, hes probably 5-7th in the ufc lw division.
In actual "skills" and how he stylistically matches up against others, hes borderline top10.

You're so dumb dude.

I put Edgar and Maynard above him, natch?

Penn, Griffin, Diego, Florian are not currently LW fighters. I said it was a LW ranking, not a "anybody who ever fought at LW or might come back to LW" list.

Melendez, Aoki, Alvarez are not UFC fighters. It's a UFC list if you have reading comprehension. Not to mention I already slurped on Melendez's nuts like 5 posts ago.

Henderson, lolz. Guida is clearly a level above henderson right now. Sherk is 2-2 in his last 4 (with one extremely close split decision win), Clay is 4-0 in his last 4. Sherk's losses are to really good fighters, but Clay is fighting very well right now under Jackson's tutelage.

It's a title shot list, and the only real argument (which is a good one) is Jim Miller over Guida. Edgar/Maynard is already planned, so who should get the next shot over Clay other than Jim Miller? Nobody.

diegos got a pretty legit resume at 170. I think he looks better there than at 155 to be honest.

Yea, didn't Dana more or less say Miller is next in line?

Guida needs to fight a marquee opponent next. I don't think Pettis qualifies as that. (this could be said about Miller aswell, but it's hard to deny a 9-1 ufc record with his only loss being to Gray. Guida has been up against toplevel fighters but been crushed)

You seem to have real challenges with logical thinking and reading comprehension. I'll highlight the important words in all caps

My list was a TITLE SHOT LIST. It ranked people CURRENTLY fighting in the LW division, for the UFC, based on who should get a TITLE SHOT first.

So, for instance, Edgar is the CHAMP and Maynard has the current TITLE SHOT. If Maynard died tomorrow, who would get the next shot? Dana White actually announced Jim Miller gets the next shot (if he beats Henderson).

Now a QUESTION for you to ANSWER. If both Maynard and Jim Miller were to tragically die IN A PLANE CRASH tomorrow, who would get the next UFC TITLE SHOT. The answer is clearly Clay Guida.

Can you understand this concept? About who is in line for a TITLE SHOT, not about who is talented as a fighter. It's pretty simple.

does pettis ever lose vs siver/sotiropoulos and maybe even guillard?

guillard is a decent argument. I think guida is just above him though, because his four fight winning streak is better than Guillard's. You notice, though, that you didn't mention any of the previous people you mentioned and had to change your argument entirely.

Pettis is not a can.

Gomi is not a can.

Dos Anjos had won three in a row before getting ragdolled and jaw-broken by Guida.

Guida's become a different fighter since moving to a good camp. Jackson has him fighting smart and well.

If you're too dumb to make a real argument, just pretend your opponent is making an argument he never mentioned! This is called a Strawman argument, and you should wikipedia it.

Pettis beats Siver a high % of the time. I think he's a 50/50 with guillard because he's so dangerous on the ground and Melvin is weak there. Sotiropolous, I'm not sure tbh. he's talented but I feel like i can't get a feel for where he's at after the Siver fight.

pettis isnt going anywhere, guy is very legit

Melvin has been beating cans. Funny how you criticize guida's opponents as cans but turn a blind eye to melvin. Guillard's fought two people in his last four that were in their first ever UFC fight. Guida's current win streak is better than Melvin's. You want to criticize Pettis and Gomi as cans but oooooooooooooh ronnys torres and wayon lowe!

That said, Melvin is doing well right now, which I why I ranked him #5 in terms of a title shot. But he hasn't beaten anyone to make me think he deserves it yet. Who did Melvin beat that was in the top 10, good sir?

who has melvin ever beaten in the top ten?

...

nobody?

His current streak is dunham, who was coming off a loss and has now lost 2 straight, a split decision over journeyman stephens, and two first-time-ever UFC fighters. See? You can break down any fighter's record if you want to.

Dunham, stephens, lowe, torres is not as impressive as pettis, gomi, dos anjos, gugerty.

and for the record, dos anjos was riding a 3-fight win streak when he got brutalized by guida.

Kinda funny how some people think It's all about ability and/or results.
A very big part in who gets a titleshot is popularity and marketability.

dunham was top10 in the ufc at the time. Even including the sherk "loss".

Not top ten overall though. If we're just going by 'top ten in the UFC', then gomi and pettis were both top ten in the UFC when Guida beat them going by BloodyElbow consensus rankings. In fact, Pettis was top ten overall before that loss in the consensus rankings.

the entire MMA internet disagrees with you

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings/lightweight

These rankings are a mathematical combination of basically every reputable ranking on the internet. They have Pettis at #8 overall before losing this fight. You lose.

They had gomi #14 in December, right before losing to Guida. Not counting the non-UFC fighters, he was #10 among fighters in the UFC.

nice contribution. regardless of you lol-ing, the rankings are what they are. I was simply refuting a factual claim about the rankings, not making a judgment value about how reliable the rankings actually are.

who the **** cares.. guida is never gonna win a title, neither is he a true top5 fighter.

He is popular, got a good winstreak and will probably get a titleshot after miller if he keeps winning.

Lesnar had not beaten anyone notable when he fought Couture, but i still think it was by far the best option for the UFC with Mir and Nogueire tied up.

meh, it's the best one we got.

At least it adds up biased and speculative opinions and form some kind of average point system.

post a legit top20 list from the time Gomi was ranked top10 in the ufc then?

This reminds me of all the ******s that claim Pacquiao is top10 ATG and then can't name anyone else than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson on such a list.

(i don't think current Gomi is any good. Thats not what rankings judge upon though.)

Your opinion is terrible.

Yeah, i give a little bit more weight to the combined efforts of the collective of MMA writers than to a guy who comes in a calls Anthony Pettis a can. And then next argues Melvin should get a shot, contradicting his own anti-can stance from 30 seconds ago.

Sharon you might want to take a break. I'm headed out, but I'm sure I'll miss some fun while I'm gone.

QFT.

If you watch enough MMA, you can form your own, valid argument for any fighter. Breen/Gross/Stupp/Morgan are watching the same fights we are watching, and they can't get any more insight than we can since the fighters only compete 3-4 times a year.

You do realize people carry their resume/rankings over when they sign for the UFC?

It's not like Melendez would be ranked last.

With that said. Pettis ranking is solely based on Henderson being way overrated because of lack of decent opposition.