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11-13-2016 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Why can't Conor make 145? According to coach Kav his new cardio routine makes it much easier for him to make weight and has his walking around weight smaller than ever.
If he can, great. Just seems like it would be hard for him to keep oscillating between weights when he was super drained to get to 145 to start with.
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11-13-2016 , 01:00 PM
every single fighter from '35 to '70 is willing to do anything to get a Conor fight. If the fans aren't screaming for it, what makes you think he'll fight Khabib? The only reason he fights Khabib is because he wants to.
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11-13-2016 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Yoel knee was definitely by design. You can see a clear progression from rounds one through three as he gradually figured out Chris's timing. In Rd 1 almost all of Weidman's level changes were effective, either earning him a takedown or at least opening up the strikes. In Rd 2 you can see Yoel beginning to anticipate his movements enough to stuff the shots. By Rd 3 he had him pegged. One or two seconds before the big knee Chris dropped his head to change levels and Romero was all over it. When Chris went for it again a moment later Yoel was already launching himself at the first twitch of Weidman's muscle.
Yea Yoel seems like an in ring machine with those counters, the trip in round 2 was so fast and smooth that it wasn't possible to do without knowing exactly the position Weidman was going to end up before he got there.
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11-13-2016 , 01:02 PM
Coach Kav was against Conor going back to '45 and has recently changed his opinion which makes me think he's immediately fighting Aldo unless there is some Mayweather nonsense.
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11-13-2016 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Coach Kav was against Conor going back to '45 and has recently changed his opinion which makes me think he's immediately fighting Aldo unless there is some Mayweather nonsense.
To fight Money he has to get to 147, so that'll be basically the same.
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11-13-2016 , 01:09 PM
If Conor wants to stay at 155, he should fight Ferg next and Khabib can fight Nate if they can somehow make it.

Khabib will be pissed and Nate probably won't fight anyone but Conor, but the narrative after those two would really sell a Khabib fight well. Conor gets another win against a guy who's much closer to his size in Ferg and Khabib beats the guy that tapped Conor, probably in violent fashion.
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11-13-2016 , 01:12 PM
There is no way Nate takes that fight
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11-13-2016 , 01:12 PM
No way in hell is Diaz agreeing to fight Khabib.
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11-13-2016 , 01:13 PM
Conor is defending the '45 belt next barring some super fight. Probably Aldo but I could see him fighting Frankie instead.
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11-13-2016 , 01:22 PM
Conor and Dana are legit ruining the ufc for me with their nonsense. LOL to the person that said he is the best thing to happen to the ufc. Maybe for the little while that he is fighting but soon he will retire because he already has all the most monies and leave the ufc in complete shambles.
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11-13-2016 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
There is no way Nate takes that fight
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
No way in hell is Diaz agreeing to fight Khabib.
No ****, that's why I said it was unlikely twice in that post. The point was that if you think Khabib isn't a draw, that's the quickest way to raise the profile of that fight.

Rewatched the fight with MJ just now and Khabib has a really unusual stand up style for MMA. He keeps his rear hand (his right) very high up on his head, it's almost like a high guard in boxing. He's clearly not trying to trade with his opponents just protect, work in and force a clinch. He still has that nasty MMA habit of dropping his rear hand before he throws his combos though, and he keeps his lead hand very low and forward which can expose him to someone with quicker hands.

Conor is obviously finished if the fight goes to the ground, but I don't think it's crazy at all that Conor just TKOs Khabib quickly before it can get there.
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11-13-2016 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BRpokah
Conor and Dana are legit ruining the ufc for me with their nonsense. LOL to the person that said he is the best thing to happen to the ufc. Maybe for the little while that he is fighting but soon he will retire because he already has all the most monies and leave the ufc in complete shambles.
Conor is fantastic for every other fighter in UFC, all their pay packets will take a rise because of him.

Ffs the most dedicated to the company Cerrone has been getting the pish ripped out of him for years, fighting for peanuts.
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11-13-2016 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
People in line before Khabib

Mayweather
Aldo
Diaz
GSP
Ferg if stays active
Maybe Woodley too

By the time Conor is finished with this list more big fights willl emerge. It's not fair for Khabib but this is the fight game.
God that is an awful fight list. Not that your list is wrong but few of those fights I would pay to see. IDK, that list just looks like a guy dodging legit fights, I mean he hasn't even defended a belt yet and his next fight will be his 4th.

Aldo is a waste of a fight, IMO you don't go backwards in the fight world. The next divison is always the better division to be in in most cases. I would be dissapointed if he fights Aldo, that is the safest fight to take.

Diaz would be a great fight to watch but I have already seen it twice. I know they were to epic fights but I would rather watch a new movie.

GSP, I have no desire to watch CM fight a would be 36 year old who wouldn't have fought in 3.5 years.

Ferg, OK finally we get a fight where he defends his 155 belt to someone we haven't seen already.

I would be fine with Woodley but CM would get crushed by him, Woodley is just too big.
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11-13-2016 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
every single fighter from '35 to '70 is willing to do anything to get a Conor fight. If the fans aren't screaming for it, what makes you think he'll fight Khabib? The only reason he fights Khabib is because he wants to.
Are the fans not screaming for it now? I mean some of this is on Khabib but he's done a pretty good job recently trying to humiliate CMac into a fight. I mean a lot of people are asking to fight Connor ldo, but Khabib is doing it in a way that's different and at least for a casual like me believable.

btw I don't think Khabib killing Conor is even close to a given... I do think someone would get wrekt that fight like 100% of the time though.
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11-13-2016 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BRpokah
Conor and Dana are legit ruining the ufc for me with their nonsense. LOL to the person that said he is the best thing to happen to the ufc. Maybe for the little while that he is fighting but soon he will retire because he already has all the most monies and leave the ufc in complete shambles.
Can you be more specific? How would he leave the UFC in shambles?
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11-13-2016 , 02:25 PM
Conor is good for the cards that he is fighting but is destroying everything around it. UFC is a circus now. Very clearly what happens outside the octagon far outweights what happens inside it. To me, that sucks. Thats why I dont watch WWE but watch real sports.

I know I am probably quirky but I would be really interested in a serious ranking system to determine who gets title shots and I even drew up a plan for when I finally overtake Dana and co.
I have no problem with Conor making more money than everyone else though.
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11-13-2016 , 02:27 PM
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Yea Yoel seems like an in ring machine with those counters, the trip in round 2 was so fast and smooth that it wasn't possible to do without knowing exactly the position Weidman was going to end up before he got there.


The speed and smoothness with which Romero spun and took Weidman's back after the trip was seriously impressive. Guy must be an athletic freak to be that big yet move that fast.

All this McGregor v Woodley talk seems ridiculous. Are people forgetting that Conor was badly hurt in two fights by a lightweight who isn't known for his power? He'll get annihilated by a proper welterweight, let alone one as heavy-hitting as Woodley.


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11-13-2016 , 02:30 PM
I dont agree with the narrative that Conor dodges fights. When Aldo pulled out he took a fight that was a bad matchup on short notice. He beat Aldo and could have likely taken an easier fight but instead moved up to fight RDA. When RDA pulled out he took a fight up another weight class vs Diaz. After the Diaz rematch he went back to fight for the Belt he was originally meant to fight for before the Diaz detour.

Maybe you can say he dodged an Aldo rematch but as I said when 205 was announced. I think after how 200 fell apart on them that UFC didnt want to risk Aldo headlining their biggest card to date.
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11-13-2016 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rainbowsinthesky
thanks edward
You know they call him Mystic Mac for a reason. Conor kept reiterating that Eddie would be "shooting for his life in there" after he cracked him one time. Sure enough, Eddie tried standing with him, Conor knocked him down, then came the sloppy take down atyempts from a syaggered Eddie.

Just listen to Conor, he spot on predicts every s8ngle fight with sensational accuracy l.
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11-13-2016 , 02:35 PM
I heard in an interview that UFC's plan for expansion is to really push into the Russian and Chinese markets so Im sure nothing would make them happier than for Khabib to start getting mainstream attention. If there is to be a Conor vs Khabib fight then I think it would be best to have Khabib fight another top LW first.
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11-13-2016 , 02:51 PM
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I dont agree with the narrative that Conor dodges fights. When Aldo pulled out he took a fight that was a bad matchup on short notice. He beat Aldo and could have likely taken an easier fight but instead moved up to fight RDA. When RDA pulled out he took a fight up another weight class vs Diaz. After the Diaz rematch he went back to fight for the Belt he was originally meant to fight for before the Diaz detour.

Maybe you can say he dodged an Aldo rematch but as I said when 205 was announced. I think after how 200 fell apart on them that UFC didnt want to risk Aldo headlining their biggest card to date.
I don't think Conor understood the fights that were bad matchups. Not going to give credit for fighting Mendes when Mendes had a weeks notice.

RDA was going to be a excellent fight but RDA also had a belt, you can't pick and choose your fights when someone has a belt.

I don't think Conor knew how tough Diaz was going to be or how tough it would be to fight at 170. I think he knew he made a mistake rematching Diaz at 170 and sabotaged his original fight date. Just my consipratard theory on that one.

Alvarez, Conor can't pick and choose his fights when someone has a title belt.

I think Aldo is the easiest fight for him to fight next, and would be disapointed if he fought him actually. Just all specualtion for me right now because Conors next fight hasn't been anounced yet.

I really like Conor and root for him everytime but I would like to see him actually defend his belt and actually fight at 155. I still think rematching Diaz at 170 was just plain stupid.
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11-13-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooksx
The speed and smoothness with which Romero spun and took Weidman's back after the trip was seriously impressive. Guy must be an athletic freak to be that big yet move that fast.

All this McGregor v Woodley talk seems ridiculous. Are people forgetting that Conor was badly hurt in two fights by a lightweight who isn't known for his power? He'll get annihilated by a proper welterweight, let alone one as heavy-hitting as Woodley.


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Are you forgetting he just went untouched by a lightweight who is known for his power and wrestling while woodley landed his best punches to end in a draw last night?

I really can't believe I am arguing this side, but woodley is the exact ****ing match up Conor has had the least trouble with over and over again. I thought Mendez would beat him. I thought alverez was a bigger, stronger Mendez with more power and he would beat him. He did fooking nothing. There will be a point where the size and strength advantage is too much, but after both fights last night why are you so convinced woodley is that point? He may be but it is not certain.
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11-13-2016 , 03:00 PM
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God that is an awful fight list. Not that your list is wrong but few of those fights I would pay to see. IDK, that list just looks like a guy dodging legit fights, I mean he hasn't even defended a belt yet and his next fight will be his 4th.

Aldo is a waste of a fight, IMO you don't go backwards in the fight world. The next divison is always the better division to be in in most cases. I would be dissapointed if he fights Aldo, that is the safest fight to take.

Diaz would be a great fight to watch but I have already seen it twice. I know they were to epic fights but I would rather watch a new movie.

GSP, I have no desire to watch CM fight a would be 36 year old who wouldn't have fought in 3.5 years.

Ferg, OK finally we get a fight where he defends his 155 belt to someone we haven't seen already.

I would be fine with Woodley but CM would get crushed by him, Woodley is just too big.
I would like to add Edgar to the list as well
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11-13-2016 , 03:03 PM
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Are you forgetting he just went untouched by a lightweight who is known for his power and wrestling while woodley landed his best punches to end in a draw last night?

I really can't believe I am arguing this side, but woodley is the exact ****ing match up Conor has had the least trouble with over and over again. I thought Mendez would beat him. I thought alverez was a bigger, stronger Mendez with more power and he would beat him. He did fooking nothing. There will be a point where the size and strength advantage is too much, but after both fights last night why are you so convinced woodley is that point? He may be but it is not certain.
Let's not try and pretend Woodley's wrestling is the same as Alvarez. Lookup their credentials.
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11-13-2016 , 03:14 PM
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Let's not try and pretend Woodley's wrestling is the same as Alvarez. Lookup their credentials.
I didn't say that it was or anything close to that. I'm also not saying it's an easy fight for Conor or even that he is a favorite, what I am saying is it is not outlandish that it would be competitive.

And as far as woodley and his wrestling, he could have and should have used it last night after dominating with it the first round. His care and concern in not getting hit or terrible game fight iq prevented it and either one will be in play against Conor also. The ease in which Conor connects with the left is a different, but maybe more dangerous threat to woodley when you consider how frequently he ate wonderboys punches last night.

The exact same argument you are making here now is why alverez should have been more of a threat to Conor than he turned out to be. Woodley is the next level of that same question.
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