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10-06-2016 , 04:34 AM

#10951

SandmanNess

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Originally Posted by electricladylnd

Now if Khabib wins and doesn't get next shot then something is really wrong.

Is it really though? Tony Ferguson is fighting RDA and if he wins against him, he will be on a 9-0 win streak in the division while beating the former champion with most of his wins being recent. Can you really say that Khabib deserves the shot more than him? Don't get me wrong, I think Khabib is the best fighter in the division, but as it stands, if Tony Ferguson beats RDA, he will have a better current resume for the title shot than Khabib.

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10-06-2016 , 07:39 AM

#10952

rainbowsinthesky

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I love this promo

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10-06-2016 , 12:06 PM

#10953

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Yeah if Ferguson runs through RDA and Khabib gets a decision v MJ there's no way Khabib deserves the title shot. He's beaten a bunch of cans and has 1 win in the last two years against a steel worker from Pittsburgh or something.

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10-06-2016 , 03:03 PM

#10954

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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK

Yeah if Ferguson runs through RDA and Khabib gets a decision v MJ there's no way Khabib deserves the title shot. He's beaten a bunch of cans and has 1 win in the last two years against a steel worker from Pittsburgh or something.

The guy is 23-0 for god sake...

Before Mcgregor had his title shot what he had ?
17-2 with win over Siver and Holloway (in 2013, 2 years before his title shot..)
Was he really worth it that much?

Has for the second bold part, remember this guy ?

Dominick Cruz

He was 20-1 and had 1 fight in 4 years and they still gave him a title shot...

ps: imo khabib win over RDA in 2013 is much better than Mcgregor win over holloway anyway.
So yeah , Khabib deserve his title shot no matter what.

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10-06-2016 , 03:38 PM

#10955

Onlydo2days

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He's had 1 fight in 2 years though. And McGregor is not applicable because obviously he is $$$$$$$$$.

I wouldn't mind Khabib having to fight the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson (if he wins) for the title either. Especially if Conor wins and wants to go down to 145 1 last time.

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10-06-2016 , 05:28 PM

#10956

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Was going to write a long post but there's no getting through to Khabib stans. His record is a sham.

Comparing him to Dominick Cruz who never actually lost his title is AMAZING.

I'm fine with Ferguson or Conor fighting Eddie for the belt now...and if Tony beats RDA he 100% deserves the next shot over Khabib.

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10-06-2016 , 07:28 PM

#10957

DodgerIrish

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23-0 means next to nothing w/o context.

There was a guy who was like 21-0 and he's one of the worst fighters ever in the UFC. Some 145er I think it was who beat up on midwest cans.

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10-06-2016 , 08:50 PM

#10958

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

Khabib vs. Khabib would break records

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10-06-2016 , 10:08 PM

#10959

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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK

Was going to write a long post but there's no getting through to Khabib stans. His record is a sham.

Comparing him to Dominick Cruz who never actually lost his title is AMAZING.

I'm fine with Ferguson or Conor fighting Eddie for the belt now...and if Tony beats RDA he 100% deserves the next shot over Khabib.

i was not comparing Cruz with Khabib based on skills because Cruz is an amazing fighter but just for disregarding the factor you bring up on how many fight in the past over 1 or 2 years they had, due to injury whith both fighters.

Second point.
Why, when khabib already beat RDA...

btw, beside barboza, who did ferguson beat that is noteworthy that khabib did not ?

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10-06-2016 , 10:22 PM

#10960

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Originally Posted by RT

Khabib vs. Khabib would break records

Ferguson/RDA*

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10-07-2016 , 06:51 PM

#10961

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Cruz was the champ and never lost his belt tho. That's sort of a big difference.

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10-09-2016 , 12:05 AM

#10962

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Bisping v Henderson 2 is INSANE at the moment. How is this not being talked about right now?

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10-09-2016 , 12:31 AM

#10963

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How did one judge score that 49-46?

Hendo won 1,2, & 5 imo

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10-09-2016 , 12:31 AM

#10964

rainbowsinthesky

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Good fight, Henderson is a boss

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10-09-2016 , 12:32 AM

#10965

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Originally Posted by CandyKreep

Bisping v Henderson 2 is INSANE at the moment. How is this not being talked about right now?

Great fight.

When its not a big name it doesnt get the coverage. I mean i pay for every PPV and I even found this card uninspiring

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10-09-2016 , 12:36 AM

#10966

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48-47 Bisping was correct. 49-46 is pure home cooking

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10-09-2016 , 12:38 AM

#10967

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Originally Posted by RT

48-47 Bisping was correct. 49-46 is pure home cooking

2, 3, 4 or 3, 4, 5?

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10-09-2016 , 12:40 AM

#10968

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Originally Posted by Prawney

Great fight.

When its not a big name it doesnt get the coverage. I mean i pay for every PPV and I even found this card uninspiring

Agreed. The rest of the card was worthless. I just figured it would be more watched because of the Bisping/Hendo narrative.

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10-09-2016 , 12:40 AM

#10969

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345 Bisping.

3 and 4 were clear, 5 was close, but Hendo didn't land enough and didn't pretty enough. 1 was clear Hendo, 2 was Bisping close up until Hendo caught him and scored the KD.

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10-09-2016 , 12:53 AM

#10970

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125 hendo, with 1 possibly being 10-8

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10-09-2016 , 01:01 AM

#10971

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casual fan. Just came here to see reaction because i dont have many mma friends. Decision seemed absolutely horrible. Not sure of the specific scoring criteria but cant even see a close decision for B, let alone that one judge and unanimous.

Opinion itt seems split, so possibly not as horrible a decision as i thought. Great fight though, almost saved a weak card.

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10-09-2016 , 01:33 AM

#10972

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think 345 bisping was good, neither 1 or 2 was a 10-8 imo and i think there are generally way too few 10-8s

wouldnt have had an issue with 125 for hendo.

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10-09-2016 , 01:37 AM

#10973

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

It always seems like a bad decision when the winner's face is a swollen, bloody pulp and the loser looks like he just stepped in the ring. But in this case, I think it was correct.

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10-09-2016 , 08:22 AM

#10974

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

You judge by things other than damage sadly.

It's still a sport with rules. Bisping scored more during rounds 3, 4 , and 5. Sucks because Hendo deserved a title, and Bisping is a douche