He's the little tank that got a dec he prbly didn't deserve against prime Johnny Hendricks and then beat Thiago Alves after

And **** the bed against Charlie Brenneman after, also beat Gunny as a dog that set up this fight

That's his career until getting highlight combo'd by Cowboy into infamy

Jake Shields is white nerdy/worse Maia that randomly is with the Diaz gang from day 1 and beat Maia in Brazil along with choking out Robbie in a standing guillotine a weight class up. No coordination in hands. Randomly huge selling fight with GSP.

Story is just a guy: him, Mike Pierce, Gastellum

They're all the same. Feisty wrestlers who lack much power. Perfect gate keepers.

The huge selling fight with GSP was cause he dominated Hendo when he moved up in weight too. I forget the exact reason, but SF basically fed Shields to Hendo to setup a bigger fight and Shields dominated him. Think Hendo was like -400 for it. It was in Strikeforce but it was still on national TV (CBS)

And even though most expected GSP to win, it was known he wouldn't be able to LnP him.

O I forgot about that

HBomb and then Hendo gassed from the tough cut, one of the biggest strikes to ever land on the eventual winner. I remember Hendo being like "we'll see how this goes" *sigh* beforehand, due to the cut

Shields arguably won the fight with GSP too, so ugly tho. Jab that was stiffly thrown because he just can't throw anything not stiffly

Also remember Shields sitting with Dana on a PPV right after that Hendo fight

Oh I think he got the title from Robbie with that choke and then Hendo was coming to challenge after leaving the UFC, same thing that just happened with Bendo in terms of the situation and outcome

I agree with you. My point was story is durable, and even if he was not the combo he took would have put anyone away and was much more devestating than what Conor gave to Nate.

The stream of this particular part of the thread with you, Marty and myself is getting thin but I think we all agree.

I don't recall thinking Shields fight with GSP was even that competitive. But I was probably so bored I was only half watching it.

Oh also the Hendo fight was when Mayhem got in the ring after and mayhem ensued. That was funny.

Gus Johnson's reaction alone was priceless.

edit: and yeah I guess it was Hendo moving down, not SHields moving up. Just remember Shields was supposed to be road kill to setup Hendo vs someone (Jacare?) Don't recall.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/267...s-Jake-Shields

I'd have to rewatch it. I know I've heard it said he could've arguably won in MMA roundtable discussions years after the fact.

It wasn't a GSP/Koshceck situation where it was a stalemate but totally one-sided. From what I remember anyway.

it's both

he was supposed to be road kill because he was a 170'er who caught Robbie, who was then thought to be a true MW, in a lucky sub and now an elite LHW was going to show him what was up

the 'lucky' sub was like Mir vs Carwin where Robbie was just chill while it was happening until too late

ah, Strikeforce: Nashville. Why you should never have 3 title fights on a card.

I have feeling since Nate was so insulting towards Conor that he won't do a third match and let Nate get another payday. Conor wants to move on to bigger and better things. Also I think Conor wants some circus type match before going back to fight Aldo, that's what I gathered from his post fight talk. The Brazilians flaked on Conor so many times I don't see him appeasing their wishes.

Maybe the floyd match? or something with WWE?

Sounds like he isn't thrilled with Aldo in general, all the fights he pulls out of. Someone pulling out a fight is why he lost to Diaz at 170 in the first place.

Aldo/McGregor doesn't seem to have a ton of momentum behind it either. Probably because Aldo/Edgar was w/e.

I would be totally happy with an Aldo/McGregor rematch but I would also like to see him fight someone new and see how he does with a different style fighter. If we get a rematch it will be 4 fights in a row with only 2 opponents.

Great fight last night, don't know how that judge had a 10-8 round for Diaz and at the very least not have a 10-8 RD for Connor too.

All kinds of different viewpoint on this from my bias.

He already beat Aldo and Aldo is a threat without much upside. This is why he isn't interested.

Aldo vs mcgreggor could get a lot of momentum pretty easily.

Aldo/Edgar was far from whatever. Aldo looked like a monster. The way he handled Frankie both increased Conor's stock for beating him but also raised the question of fluke even more where a bad performance would have turned him into a barao story.

The double standard in Conor's (and his fans) world is annoying and only acceptable because he is a draw. He loses to Nate, gets an instant rematch. Aldo wins for 10 years but he does not deserve one? conor wins a close decision which proves the king is back, Aldo wins a very decisive decision vs Frankie but it's not that eyebrow raising and Conor wanted a more impressive victory? He gets more excused for not getting to plan against Nate rather than RDA than Nate got for no camp at all? Chad beat the crap out of him for the first round and a half before gassing and conor comes back to win and rightfully takes credit (even though Chad was short notice) but all he talks about in the lead up to this last fight was how he "won" the begin 8 minutes of the last fight?

If Aldo beats him in a rematch it negates his only impressive win over an elite and prepared fighter. Period. This is why he is not excited.

You're just rambling now.

Of course Conor deserves the rematch v Nate (he's the draw and not a chance Nate complains). Seen a few say Aldo doesn't deserve immediate rematch (no idea if all Conor fans, I doubt it) which I disagree with. Not seen one person say Aldo's performance v Edgar was nothing, far from it and everyone was impressed. And lol complaining about fighters saying hypocritical **** (and blaming his fans for it lol), who knew eh.

I'm in same camp I want to see Conor fight someone other than Diaz/Aldo first. Then go back to Aldo later.

I was comparing their career arcs, not PPV numbers. Both shot up playing the heel, then faced a tough fight and lost.

There also the issue of skill distance from their peers. I detest Floyd, but he was the best in his prime. Broner and Conor are not.

Conor is moving more units sure, but he's also in a younger sport without a history of characters just like Floyd. Broner already had Floyd soaking up his attention.

IDK if UFC would do this but for Conor's next fight get Ronda and Nick Diaz on card too. Make it really hype.

Yeah I mean, a wrestler (especially khabib specifically) would give him a lot of trouble. Look at what mendes did before he was ko'd. But can they take Conor's shots? I agree with you mostly but a guy who poses no threat to get knocked out is a nightmare for Conor. It's hard to stay on top of a guy for 25 minutes and never engage with him or take his best shots

The obvious next move for McGOAT is to move up to 495 and fight Diaz+GSP+ Aldo at the same time. That way, when Aldo inevitably pulls out with injury, we still have a great 2-on-1 battle.

Broner lost the first time he faced good comp in Maidana, then the 2nd time he faced good comp in Porter. I couldn't even tell you what he is doing now.

McGregor beat 1 of the P4P GOATs in 13 seconds and is now a top P4P fighter in the world.

Both shotup playing the heel and then faced a tough fight and lost kinda conveniently leaves out that Conor beat Jose Aldo to win the championship right before he lost to Diaz (a loss which he just avenged)

Broner has never done anything close to that. CMG is considered top 3-5 P4P in MMA right now.


Even career arcs I'd say there are UFC guys that were considered the next big thing and fell flat, they would be better comparisons for Broner.

I'm not rambling I was responding directly to the post I quoted that said exactly what you have never heard.

Rumors that Broner gonna fight Provodnikov next. Danny Garcia's been thrown in as well.

Broner was a muliti weight world champ. Lol boxing belts and all, but he'd had his fights, tho obviously not a fight against a top 10 opp.

Aldo for 13 seconds was conors only top 10 fight I believe that wasn't Mendes on two weeks. Conor has never given us anything on the ground that we can point to and say he is anything but a striker. He's an effective striker, but that's the extent of it.

His weaknesses got exposed against a top 10 155er in pretty glaring fashion. Call him top 5 p4p if you like but his resume!e doesn't match, at least not yet.


All of this strays from the point tho. People comapre him to Floyd, and that's simply inaccurate. Floyd didn't lose, and while there are reasons for that, he was dominant. Conor is not dominant. He's a good fighter with hype trying to copy Floyd. After his fright with Chino, that same description fits Broner.

Fine with either, watching Broner get sonned is fun.