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Old 01-17-2013, 08:22 PM   #1951
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“I talked to a former Notre Dame teammate of Te’o's today, who told me that most players always thought that this wasn’t really Te’o's girlfriend,” Holtzman said. “And that they always suspected that this didn’t really add up with the story. [The teammate] also told me that Te’o loved the attention and that even though the story may not have been what it seemed to be, that he was more than happy to play along with it.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...re-suspicious/

Sorry if my pony is slow but this guy is also an attention whore who knew ?
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:23 PM   #1952
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wrong place, but didnt want to pull up the pedo st thread

al pacino will be playing joe paterno in a movie called "happy valey" lol
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #1953
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al pacino is the perfect paterno but its going to be a fluff piece , Brian DePalma is directing (scarface , carlitos way ) could be interesting .

we need a manti te'o movie ...the rock is gay right ? he can play manti .
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #1954
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I know gay people don't always get a fair shake in our culture, but I don't think creating fake girlfriends and having them die of leukemia is a particularly rational response
Conan O'Brien on Liza Manelli and David Gest divorce; "It only works when both people are gay."
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:32 PM   #1955
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It's hard to never
look at you baby,
but here's my number
so call me Lennay.

I've never met you
and this is crazy,
but here's my number
so call me Lennay.

All the other girls
try to chase me,
but I don't touch girls
so call me Lennay.

After you pretended to die,
I missed you so bad.
I missed you so bad.
I missed you so so bad.

After you pretended to die,
I missed you so bad.
And you should know that
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 PM   #1956
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I'm just disappointed Law and Order is off the air, I would have loved to have seen how they could rip this from the headlines and turn it into a murder
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:35 PM   #1957
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wrong place, but didnt want to pull up the pedo st thread

al pacino will be playing joe paterno in a movie called "happy valey" lol
Is it a sequel to Cruising?
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:37 PM   #1958
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I'm just disappointed Law and Order is off the air, I would have loved to have seen how they could rip this from the headlines and turn it into a murder
Jack McCoy would charge the **** out of Te'o and then get all butthurt when he was found not guilty
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:38 PM   #1959
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Is it a sequel to Cruising?
co-starring shia lebouef as victim #2
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:43 PM   #1960
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al pacino is the perfect paterno but its going to be a fluff piece , Brian DePalma is directing (scarface , carlitos way ) could be interesting .

we need a manti te'o movie ...the rock is gay right ? he can play manti .
Joe pesci would have been better imo
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:45 PM   #1961
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yeah especially since spaceman already gave us a better one
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:49 PM   #1962
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SI: Hit by a drunk driver. What were her injuries?
TE'O: I don't know. She had a lot of different injuries.

SI: How long was she hospitalized?
TE'O: She was in that hospital for about two months.

SI: Wow, did she get out?
TE'O: She didn't get out. She went from there. Remember she got in the accident and she was in a coma. We lost her, actually, twice. She flatlined twice. They revived her twice. It was just a trippy situation. It was a day I was flying home from South Bend to go home for summer break. It was May. Mid-May. That was the day where they said, "Bro, we're going to pull it. We're going to pull the plug." I remember having this feeling like everything is going to be OK. They were telling me, "Say your goodbyes." From April 28 to around mid-May, I was always talking to my girlfriend who was on a machine.

SI: She couldn't communicate?
TE'O: No. She could only breathe. One of the miraculous things was when I talked to her and she would hear my voice her breathing would pick up. Like quickly, and then she would start crying. But her breathing would quicken, and she would start crying. So her brother was in the room with the nurse. They were monitoring her. She said, "Who is she on the phone with?" Her boyfriend. She was like, "That's amazing. She doesn't do that with anybody else." So that happened. And then she flatlined and we were losing her.

The day I went home, that was the day they were going to pull it. They were saying their goodbyes and all that. I said, "Babe, I'm never going to say goodbye to you. If you really want to go, she really missed her dad, so I said, "If you want to go, be with dad, go. Just know that I love you very, very much." I had this very positive feeling that everything was going to be OK. I landed in Hawaii. By the time I said my goodbyes. Not my goodbyes, my I love you, I'll see you later, that kind of thing, I jumped on the airplane to go to Hawaii. They were scheduled to pull the plug while I was in the air.

So right when I landed, I was expecting to get a voicemail saying she's gone. So I landed and I had a voicemail from her brother saying, "Brother, call me back right now." So you can imagine what's going through my head. I was like, "What am I going to do? How am I going to take this?'"And so I called him back, the doctor came in and he saw something and he wants to try some treatment on her to see if it works. From there she slowly started to get better. Slowly.
Sorry for the long quote, but I just feel the need to highlight this section. How could anyone (Thamel) ever not have realized something was fishy here? The story is just obviously, on its face, absurd.

The girlfriend flatlines twice and gets revived twice, but Te'o doesn't know what her injuries in the accident were. She's in a coma, speaks to him through breathing. They're literally about to pull the plug (why? this must have seemed like a bold move to Te'o, surely?), but somehow the doctor sees "something" and tries "some treatment" "to see if it works. Then she recovers from her coma and her first words are "I love you" to him! (Then, tragically, they find leukemia and it's the reverse: she's recovering fine and she's been cleared to leave the hospital when she suddenly and tragically dies )

The basic events are absurdly unlikely. The basic details are either completely unspecified (injuries, treatment) or elaborate and ridiculously over the top (the quickening breathing, Te'o refusing to say goodbye then she survives). The whole piece is filled with details that jut out similarly. It's pretty shocking a "journalist" with access to this transcript didn't realize something was up. As regards Te'o: these quotes move the meter considerably towards "sociopath" imo.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:53 PM   #1963
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any way to catch a replay of this?
Here is the podcast


There will probably be video highlights on the website tmrw or later tonight.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:55 PM   #1964
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Thamel told Dan Patrick that he had arrived on the Notre Dame campus the Wednesday before Notre Dame's Sept. 22 game against Michigan, but the athletic department's press people wouldn't let Te'o speak with him until Sunday... The magazine closes on Mondays. Once the full story had arrived in a factchecker's hands, there wasn't much time before the issue went to press. So how did SI wind up verifying the details about Lennay Kekua? We hear that Te'o's father, Brian, is the one who confirmed all the information about Kekua. It was left at that.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #1965
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What's Te'o's median projected draft position right now?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #1966
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Wow Bill O'Reilly is leading with this. Also calling Te'o a fraud.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:04 PM   #1967
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What's Te'o's median projected draft position right now?
4th round i'd muse
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:09 PM   #1968
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Seems that Tuiasosopo auditioned for The Voice but failed
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:09 PM   #1969
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Deadspin guy on CNN now.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:10 PM   #1970
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Wow Bill O'Reilly is leading with this. Also calling Te'o a fraud.
Wow. Would've expected Fox to follow ND's lead.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:11 PM   #1971
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This story just needs one fulcrum point of somebody spilling their guts.

Right now there are so many characters and motives possible where damn near anything is possible. If one person reveals the full truth and motives behind their actions, then I think everybody else's motives will come into focus as well.

Very interested to see if Ronnie is ever interviewed, contacted, or if he ever comes out with something in the next couple days before the ****storm dies down a little bit.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:11 PM   #1972
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Wow. Would've expected Fox to follow ND's lead.
why would you think this?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:17 PM   #1973
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Isn't NBC the network likely to follow ND's lead? They have their TV contract right?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:18 PM   #1974
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Interesting post from a Morman ND fan on NDnation. Cliffs: Mormons depend on the Internet to meet other like-minded Mormons, and are especially vulnerable to scams as a result:

I have been watching a lot of this coverage and I hear many people speculating that Manti is lying because an internet girlfriend sounds so ridiculous. I saw what I think was a screenshot of this girl's supposed Facebook page and sure enough there is a drawing of a temple on it. Manti has referenced how close she was to her Heavenly Father.

Many, many Mormons go online to meet fellow LDS members to date. We are strongly encourage to date those of our own faith. I grew up in Indiana and there were so few LDS guys to date. It was difficult. Manti found this beautiful girl who was of his faith and who depended on him.

These disgusting individuals played on Manti's love of his faith and his willingness to help others who are suffering. LDS kids are taught to serve, help and be kind to everyone. Here is this faux LDS girl who is suffering, who needs him, who makes him feel like he is a good person. People use this tactic all the time to scam Mormons. In fact, Utah is number 1 in the nation when it comes to the number of scams committed. PTI today said that Manti seemed simple in their last interview with him, even saying he was almost childlike. We are taught that we should be as a little child and very humble.

My point in all this is that is is very plausible that Manti thought he connected with this girl in a way he couldn't connect with those around him. I don't believe Manti necessarily considered her the love of his life until after he thought she died. But, haven't you noticed that when people die, all of a sudden they get built up to a level that maybe they weren't before they passed away. Maybe Manti convinced himself that the relationship was actually more serious in nature than he believed before. Especially the way the media built it up.

I can't explain away everything. Of course I want to see some internet and phone records. The SI article has shown me that he never said he actually met her in person. But he has been such an inspiration to me, who loves Notre Dame with all my heart and my religion with all my heart. I have used him many times as an example for my kids. I just don't believe that the Manti Te'o I have believed in is the one who doesn't exist.
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As regards Te'o: these quotes move the meter considerably towards "sociopath" imo.
"A Sociopath has no need for others to validate his existence. He sees others as play things. A Narcissist demands his sense of self be propped-up by others on a continual basis. Without validation and recognition from the outside world, a Narcissist feels dead inside."

narcissist! imo
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