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Old 05-03-2013, 06:37 AM   #3451
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

Does Southern Cal still have NFL quality players?
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:01 AM   #3452
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He was also 56th in the nation in tackles per game. I will never understand how we just overlook that stat. There are 128 D1 teams and he was about average in tackles. He had 7 picks. Denard handed him 2 on a silver platter and another one of them was tipped right into his hands. He didn't have numbers worthy of being a heisman candidate. Luke Kuechly was 5x the LB Te'o was. I hate the undefeated argument. There have been numerous teams that have been undefeated with out a linebacker as a heisman candidate. The hoax was a major reason he was the center of the football world which lead to ESPN falling in love and then his heisman nom.
56th isn't average when you're competing against conservatively 1400 players.

Other than that, you're right about him. The Alabama game exposed him.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:14 PM   #3453
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He was 56th in the country in tackles per game among mlb. Sorry I should have clarified
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:06 PM   #3454
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Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:09 PM   #3455
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Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.
O/U on snaps during first 3 seasons?
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:14 PM   #3456
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Lloyd also laughed at me for offering bama -20
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #3457
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O/U on snaps during first 3 seasons?
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Lloyd also laughed at me for offering bama -20
Well, unfortunately I didn't know that the game had already been lost when the whole sorry affair was told to the team. I hope you made a few quid from your knowledge of same though!
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:50 PM   #3458
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Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.
He'll be an SD charger for more than a few years if the HC and GM stay in place that long. He'll be a fan favorite (the jokes, samoan culture in SD, media exposure, name recognition etc.) and the fact that he's a pretty good LB will allow him to stay.

Teams won't be solely attacking him either when he's playing next to Donald Butler in a 3-4. He'll have limited attention that should provide him the opportunity to shut up his detractors that watched the Bama game.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:08 PM   #3459
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Teams won't be solely attacking him either when he's playing next to Donald Butler in a 3-4. He'll have limited attention that should provide him the opportunity to shut up his detractors that watched the Bama game.
Is "he needs to be masked while the defensive coaching staff prays he doesn't get exposed" really shutting up detractors?
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:12 PM   #3460
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Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.
Yeah that's not the expectation for a high second round linebacker. If he is on an NFL roster for just a few years he will be a huge bust.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:16 PM   #3461
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Well, unfortunately I didn't know that the game had already been lost when the whole sorry affair was told to the team. I hope you made a few quid from your knowledge of same though!
I think the Bama -20 offer had everything to do with the knowledge of ND being an imaginary top ten team and zero to do with imaginary girl friends.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:22 PM   #3462
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

What story was told to the team prior to the game against Pittsburgh region small high school all stars?
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:07 PM   #3463
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Yeah that's not the expectation for a high second round linebacker. If he is on an NFL roster for just a few years he will be a huge bust.
Anytime you get a long term contributor to your defense with a second round pick you've done fine imo.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:09 PM   #3464
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I think the Bama -20 offer had everything to do with the knowledge of ND being an imaginary top ten team and zero to do with imaginary girl friends.
The end margin of victory and unusually flat Irish Defensive performance had everything to do with imaginary girl friends imo. Though you are obviously entitled to believe different.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:25 PM   #3465
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He will not be good in the NFL. He was the most overrated collegiate football player in the past decade so why would he be good at the next level.
Sorry Tim Tebow exists.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:39 PM   #3466
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I continue to laugh at everyone who thinks they are better talent evaluators than every single pundit during draft coverage. If you want to believe that he was overhyped during the season because of ND or the girlfriend or whatever reason that's great. But there's no reason at all for them to keep pimping him as a first/second round pick after that.

Even Tim Tebow basically got railroaded by the McShay's of the world during draft coverage.

Now I'm not saying he's going to be Ray Lewis or something, but I have a tough time believing McShay(and sources), Kiper(and sources), Mayock(and sources) and lots of other scouts were all dead wrong and the guy is destined to suck in the NFL.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:44 PM   #3467
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Sorry Tim Tebow exists.
Tim Tebow was mega elite in college. He sucks in the pros and was expected by many to suck.

Jake Locker is a better example. He was projected by many as a potential #1 overall pick and still went in the top ten despite literally never having a statistical top 50 QB season in any of his four years in college where he had a 52% completion rate.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:02 PM   #3468
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The end margin of victory and unusually flat Irish Defensive performance had everything to do with imaginary girl friends imo. Though you are obviously entitled to believe different.
Before people actually get into an argument over this...this is serious?
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:07 PM   #3469
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Before people actually get into an argument over this...this is serious?
Yeah, it couldn't have been that ND had about two guys who would start for Bama (Te'o wasn't one of them) or that the coaching matchup was even worse.
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:48 AM   #3470
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

How did Ogletree play against Bama?

He didn't quit no matter how many times they peeled him off the turf.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:53 AM   #3471
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Before people actually get into an argument over this...this is serious?
The game would have been a lot closer without the Manti nonsense breaking to the team days beforehand, yes. I know that's inconvenient for you, but you know.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:15 AM   #3472
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The game would have been a lot closer without the Manti nonsense breaking to the team days beforehand, yes. I know that's inconvenient for you, but you know.
By a lot closer you mean Bama pulls their starters in the 4th Q up 35+ instead of the 3rd Q up 35+? The Bama starters spent that 4th Q planning how to celebrate with their real girlfriends.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:38 AM   #3473
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I think Nico Johnson & Te'o have about equal talent & measurables.

Both should be solid NFL linebackers that never make a pro bowl or all pro or finish top 10 in PFFs LB rankings, but both will have 5-7 years (barring injury) of starting MLB in the NFL on their resumes.

Both probably should have been 3 rd round picks. Nico went later because he was lost on a defense full of stars. Te'o went in the 2nd because he was the star on a good defense.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:48 AM   #3474
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I continue to laugh at everyone who thinks they are better talent evaluators than every single pundit during draft coverage. If you want to believe that he was overhyped during the season because of ND or the girlfriend or whatever reason that's great. But there's no reason at all for them to keep pimping him as a first/second round pick after that.

Even Tim Tebow basically got railroaded by the McShay's of the world during draft coverage.

Now I'm not saying he's going to be Ray Lewis or something, but I have a tough time believing McShay(and sources), Kiper(and sources), Mayock(and sources) and lots of other scouts were all dead wrong and the guy is destined to suck in the NFL.
FFS this. There's 4 years of tape on the guy. Despite an awful performance against Bama, there's still plenty of reason to think he'll be a perfectly cromulent contributor to the Chargers D.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:48 AM   #3475
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ITT people actually are using the fake gf as an excuse for ND losing

Wow, just wow
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