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05-01-2013 , 03:57 AM

#3426

brandoncla

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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton

Meh. The reason he got heisman mentions was because his very over covered school was going undefeated.

Pretty much true.

He led the nation in INTs as the captain MLB of a college team that has every game of their season on national television in an undefeated season that goes to the National Championship game that they haven't been to in decades. He would have been hyped with or without the story. We just got a whole lot extra.

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05-01-2013 , 06:43 PM

#3427

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05-02-2013 , 07:00 AM

#3428

SBlum2711

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He was also 56th in the nation in tackles per game. I will never understand how we just overlook that stat. There are 128 D1 teams and he was about average in tackles. He had 7 picks. Denard handed him 2 on a silver platter and another one of them was tipped right into his hands. He didn't have numbers worthy of being a heisman candidate. Luke Kuechly was 5x the LB Te'o was. I hate the undefeated argument. There have been numerous teams that have been undefeated with out a linebacker as a heisman candidate. The hoax was a major reason he was the center of the football world which lead to ESPN falling in love and then his heisman nom.

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05-02-2013 , 12:47 PM

#3429

boltyou

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Originally Posted by SBlum2711

As long as he's not expected to get to the edge, cover anyone, blitz in a 3-4 defense, or have to get off a block, he's going to be great! What could possibly go wrong?

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05-02-2013 , 01:53 PM

#3430

Biesterfield

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sort by tackles per game, become college football expert?

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05-02-2013 , 02:27 PM

#3431

Palo

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Tackles per play would be okay to measure by but tackles per game is useless because teams with super elite defenses will not be on the field much.

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05-02-2013 , 02:28 PM

#3432

Nicholasp27

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So then how do you justify his hype?

What makes him likely to succeed?

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05-02-2013 , 02:30 PM

#3433

SBlum2711

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I mean it's just an extremely glaring stat. I forgot experts never cite statistics in their arguments. I also watched the national championship game and the Stanford game. When Te'o Looked mediocre against NFL backs.

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05-02-2013 , 02:46 PM

#3434

SenorKeeed

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Te'o absolutely did not look mediocre against Bama

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05-02-2013 , 02:48 PM

#3435

minnesotasam

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Now wait guys, let's give this a chance. Who led the NCAA in solo tackles/game? Undrafted linebacker Marvin Burdette out of UAB? Cool, carry on.

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05-02-2013 , 02:51 PM

#3436

Zimmer4141

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The analysis of Te'o during the draft cracked me up.

"Now, I think this guy is a very good to elite linebacker prospect. Sure, he needs to work on shedding blockers, his tackling form, and how he diagnoses plays, but apart from those aspects of playing middle linebacker I really like this kid"

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05-02-2013 , 07:25 PM

#3437

brandoncla

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Watch Bama game become Te'o expert...

It's pretty hard to look good when your entire team is getting run over and dominated on both sides of the ball.

You will watch NFL and think meh he's actually a pretty good MLB, that wasn't really the guy I remembered from that Bama game I watched.

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05-02-2013 , 08:18 PM

#3438

Palo

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If Te'o was just mediocre in the Bama game he would have been a first round pick. He was laughably bad to such a degree that it called into question everything he'd ever done. He missed like 7 tackles some of which were pure 1v1 encounters where he got posterized. He was also awful at pass coverage against Bama. He was not mediocre but completely awful in every way.

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05-02-2013 , 08:44 PM

#3439

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Or, T'eo looked ok against smaller lines and when he came up against closest team to nfl (yet still worse than worst nfl teams) he looked ineffective and overmatched

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05-02-2013 , 09:54 PM

#3440

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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

If this was 1987 when teams didn't know how to beat zone defenses and players were much slower, I'd like his chances a lot in the NFL.

He's just 25 years too late.

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05-02-2013 , 11:38 PM

#3441

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

Or, T'eo looked ok against smaller lines and when he came up against closest team to nfl (yet still worse than worst nfl teams) he looked ineffective and overmatched

almost like football is a team sport

god the stupidity is making me defend te'o

he'll be ok not amazing lb

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05-03-2013 , 12:00 AM

#3442

Nicholasp27

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Missing one on one tackles isn't the team's fault

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05-03-2013 , 12:51 AM

#3443

boltyou

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

Missing one on one tackles isn't the team's fault

Nor is his inability to get off blocks, or his lack of speed.

Hope those great football instincts can carry him, because he's getting buried physically. That usually doesn't translate well to the NFL.

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05-03-2013 , 01:53 AM

#3444

SBlum2711

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He will not be good in the NFL. He was the most overrated collegiate football player in the past decade so why would he be good at the next level.

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05-03-2013 , 06:37 AM

#3445

DeadMoneyWalking

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Does Southern Cal still have NFL quality players?

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05-03-2013 , 11:01 AM

#3446

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Originally Posted by SBlum2711

56th isn't average when you're competing against conservatively 1400 players.

Other than that, you're right about him. The Alabama game exposed him.

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05-03-2013 , 12:14 PM

#3447

SBlum2711

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He was 56th in the country in tackles per game among mlb. Sorry I should have clarified

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05-03-2013 , 01:06 PM

#3448

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Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.

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05-03-2013 , 03:09 PM

#3449

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Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd

Well, ye all find out in a few months. I think Manti will be on an NFL roster for a few years and do okay but we'll see.

O/U on snaps during first 3 seasons?

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05-03-2013 , 03:14 PM

#3450

Noze

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Lloyd also laughed at me for offering bama -20

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