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05-08-2015 , 04:14 PM

#676

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Originally Posted by wil318466

It's not about the law.

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Should we be able to criticize and make fun of every religion but one because they may get mad?

What does "Should we be able to" mean if it's not about the law?

Yes, you should be able to.

Does it suck that people will try to kill you for drawing a picture of Mohammed? Yes. They should be shot when they try to kill you. It's all good.

I agree that not posting the pics of the Danish cartoon in the media was out of fear. That was super clearly a relevant part of the news story.

This is a hate group. Not the same as reprinting something as part of a news story.

05-08-2015 , 04:19 PM

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You probably don't think dude should be shot, but it's ok to call him an ahole.

05-09-2015 , 03:44 AM

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1) It's absurd that it's perfectly acceptable to draw cartoons about Obama every day in the newspaper, but it's a capital crime to draw some random ******* from 1,000 years ago. No one even knows what he looked like anyway; so if I were to draw some random object and call it Mohammed, should millons of people be offended?

2) We should keep in mind that our First Amendment rights are things which do not exist in many places around the world. So it shouldn't be surprising that some here in this thread think it's ok for the people in the art show to be attacked.

05-09-2015 , 03:59 AM

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No one has argued it should be a crime, let alone a capital one, to draw a picture of Mohammed.

No one has argued that it is okay for the people in the art show to be attacked.

05-09-2015 , 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dereds

No one has argued it should be a crime, let alone a capital one, to draw a picture of Mohammed.
No one has argued that it is okay for the people in the art show to be attacked.

What about the many innocent people who have been brutally executed because of their cartoons? Don't you think it's fair to say that the killers think drawing Mohammed is a capital crime? I don't see how anyone could reasonably argue otherwise, considering that they acrually killed people because of it.

05-09-2015 , 07:10 AM

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I was talking about the discussion in this thread.

05-09-2015 , 08:50 AM

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No one has argued it should be a crime, let alone a capital one, to draw a picture of Mohammed.

No one has argued that it is okay for the people in the art show to be attacked.

People have argued in this thread that the anti Muslim group brought this on themselves at least one arguing that they should somehow face legal penalties for inciting violence.

05-09-2015 , 09:38 AM

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2) We should keep in mind that our First Amendment rights are things which do not exist in many places around the world. So it shouldn't be surprising that some here in this thread think it's ok for the people in the art show to be attacked.

Who says it's okay?

05-09-2015 , 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by adios

People have argued in this thread that the anti Muslim group brought this on themselves at least one arguing that they should somehow face legal penalties for inciting violence.

I semi-read the thread but what I got from is actually that this event was counterproductive in finding a long term solution because the intent behind it was not to defend free speech but rather instigate violence. This is different from victim blaming. It was repeated time and again that everyone pretty much agreed that charlie hebdo was about defending free speech while this event was not.

05-09-2015 , 10:44 AM

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Who says it's okay?

Can someone dedicated enough please dig up the relevant posts? The ones which very strongly hint (if not overtly condone) that the art show people had it coming and that the actions of the thuggish gunmen are somehow excusable given the current laws in this country. Of course this kind of hooliganism is, unfortunately, acceptable and commonplace in many savage societies around the world, but that is not at issue here.

05-09-2015 , 03:50 PM

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I'm sorry but everyone who thinks it should be illegal to draw Mohammed and the attackers are awesome dudes are morans!

I'll hang up and listen.

05-09-2015 , 06:40 PM

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and that the actions of the thuggish gunmen are somehow excusable given the current laws in this country.

Yeah can you point out these posts to us? I don't remember reading them, maybe you can refresh my memory.

05-09-2015 , 07:13 PM

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Still waiting for someone dedicated enough.

05-10-2015 , 12:51 AM

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Just make sure everyone knows that Geller is a bad person.

Which means absolutely nothing.

05-10-2015 , 09:59 AM

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Just occurred to me that during WWII you guys would be against Charlie Hebdo for publishing unflattering cartoons on Hitler and the Nazis.

05-10-2015 , 10:19 AM

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Given that you first posted in this thread 6 days ago that this has only just occurred to you may tell you something. As a clue me being against Hebdo for publishing unflattering cartoons of the nazi's is nonsense. The inference is clearly bollocks and this occurring to you says much more about how you think than how I do.

05-10-2015 , 10:28 AM

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Just occurred to me that during WWII you guys would be against Charlie Hebdo for publishing unflattering cartoons on Hitler and the Nazis.

No, what you're doing here is equating "all Muslims who are offered by pictures of mohammad" with Hitler and the nazis. We would have been against the cartoons of "the sneaky jap" or at least I would, but not against satire that targets terrorist extremists or those with political power. The scattershot approach is tasteless, counter productive and hateful abd it doesn't make you anti free speech to point that out.

05-10-2015 , 02:37 PM

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negs post is an example of the problem with the right--they tend to think all Muslims are evil. So, in addition to climate change and economics, they are in denial of the existence of the moderate, peaceful Muslim.

05-10-2015 , 08:49 PM

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But the cartoons are not about all muslims. They are about one guy, who lived 1300 years ago. He also happened to "marry" a 9 year old girl and kill a whole bunch of people. He is entirely fair game for satire. He wasn't this peaceful dude like Jesus or Ghandi, he was a warlord like Julius Caesar or genghis khan.

If people are offended by someone drawing pictures of him tough ****. I am offended that he raped kids and killed a ton of people and that people would honor someone like that.

05-10-2015 , 10:06 PM

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Ya that's false

05-10-2015 , 10:10 PM

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The point of the cartoons isn't satirical. It's to piss people off because they talk weird and wear funny hats. "They're better people than deranged murderers" isn't the golden moral endorsement you seem to think it is.

05-10-2015 , 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wishingwell

If Jesus had live past 30 and had to command an empire, things might have turned out similar.

05-10-2015 , 11:24 PM

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Life expectancy was like 30 years when Muhammad lived. If you weren't marrying 9 year olds, you were doing it wrong.

05-11-2015 , 12:36 AM

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The contest was great!

Worked just like a bug zapper!

Two fewer would be murderers to worry about roaming the streets of 'Murica. Onto the next project!

Fwiw Obv what they did was very dangerous. What happens if a van rolls up and instead of two guys popping out instead there are six or eight? Were they prepared to repel that much firepower?

05-11-2015 , 01:43 AM

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The integrity of the event holders shouldn't be questioned when the lone purpose for the event was to root out evil doers.

I don't for a second believe it was done just to ruffle jihadi feathers. Instead it was done to bring would be jihadis out into the open where they can be dealt with appropriately.

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