Multiple wars attributable to Islamophobia? I can see Iraq II. What else goes on that list?

The winner of the contest was freaking out on Twitter last night because Fox hasn't show his drawing.



He raises a good point. Fox went balls deep on this story. ISIS IN AMERICAS HEARTLAND. Hannity's graphic department was working overtime. If this contest was a great patriotic expression of free speech and drawing Muhammad is no big deal, why can't Fox show it?

Obviously because they are afraid of getting murdered.

Hahaha oh, is that so? Can you provide some examples of the terrible things happening in our society as a result of it being Open Season On Christianity, besides the apparently disgusting examples of tolerance towards Muslims you provided?

Which previously banned poster are you?

So, again, the worst damage you can come up with is "people can get away with hurting the feelings of the dominant power group in America."

Wow, what a tragedy.

To many people it's about power, but imo it's not mostly that. It's in-group vs. out-group. Most people going off on Christianity that you're talking about are from Christian families or at least fully immersed in a Christian society. Because of that it's pretty clear that there's a limit to the hate and that it's primarily directed at the beliefs and not the people. That's not so clear when it's out-group.

From my point of view, as an atheist with Jewish heritage, I definitely do not especially single out Christianity because to and from me that seems more like an attack on Christians than on religion.

As a Catholic I cant insult Muslims, or for that matter Jews.

Some so called surveys/studies in 1930s Europe tried to claim that most if not all Jews were out to control the banks, the media, politicians, etc. I dont agree with the so called polls and studies which try and portray Muslims and or Jews in a negative light.

Here is what the Vatican has to say on Muslims

3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

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http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_c...aetate_en.html

And now we've circled back to where we began. Again, Muslims face real, violent consequences due to Islamophobia in this country, while you've failed to show any damage beyond the tragedy of Christians getting their feelings hurt as a result of the Open Season On Christianity.

Yay imagined hypocrisy!

Lol. goofy is worrying about problems existing in his country or the US because there's some control over those things.

It's preposterous to try to spin it as "oh those poor Christians and Jews in the Mid East..."

hahahahahaha, and now your ignorance is exposed

US mosque burned to ground

Teens arrested for lobbing lemons at Hayward mosque during prayer time

Islamic School Hit With Acid-Filled Bottle In Lombard

Islamic Center of Murfreesboro

Just this week: Tennessee man plotted to attack Muslims, burn down mosque in New York's Islamberg

Not to mention the violence we, the United States, perpetrate all over the Muslim world.

As Paul said, your tears for the War On Christmas In America don't really have anything to do with whatever plights Christians may face in other countries, but you've gotten so destroyed now that I understand why you'd want to change the argument. Good luck with that!

Oh man he's heating up

Oh please give me a ****ing break. There are countless groups of people who face SOME sort of discrimination and violent acts towards them. We could come up with examples all over the country for every group. What you're doing is disingenuous. You are claiming that Muslims face some sort of special violent response in America due to Islamaphobia. That simply isn't true.

You can make the exact same argument for Jews and people would laugh in your face. Then you could support that with instances of violence against their religious sites and hate crimes. It still wouldn't make the premise correct.

Your claims are nonsense. I've worked and lived around countless Muslims. The issue doesn't come up and I've never heard or seem them be attacked in any way, shape, or form by anybody either in society or the work place.

Does that mean it doesn't occasionally happen around the country? Of course not. But that also doesn't mean it's some sort of crisis and much more dangerous issue than people realize, like you are trying to make it out to be.

I've literally heard a US Congressman say to me he flat out doesn't trust Muslims, but whatever you think bro.

Wow. Case closed. You heard a congressman say something totally illogical, that's astonishing.

wil:
1. My premise isn't that Muslims are a unique minority in that respect, but that they face a problem here that Christians do not, which is unambiguously true
2. LOL at these two snippets next to each other:

Wil's anecdotes are totally more important than everyone else's, you guys! And he has some Muslim friends, so I guess all the instances where Muslims have been attacked didn't happen, or don't matter, or something

lol wil

This is incorrect. You said yourself :

We can only take this as implying that Muslims face some sort of special threat in this country. This is also stated in the post you made I quoted above with your examples of news snippets. You are creating a false narrative that they are under attack, and that's simply untrue.


You have a valid point, and I thought about it when I wrote it but I was too lazy to delete it. I'm constantly ridiculed for anecdotal evidence though, so I thought I'd make the same point.

It doesn't make me wrong. You're still being disingenuous.

What's so lol about it coming from your perspective? You're laughing that goofy mocked my anecdote, because it's a silly perspective? That actually has some merit.

What's funny is you're laughing at something where you did the same thing.

lol noze

Uh, yeah, that quote backs up exactly what I said. Muslims face real, violent consequences due to Islamophobia that Christians here don't have to deal with. I dunno if you have problems understanding English or what but nothing there implied that Muslims are the only group in the US that suffers consequences from bigotry. Not sure what else I can say to someone who can't even read, maybe try working on that?

And I'm arguing that you're trumping it to be more of an issue than it is. I'd say African Americans face much more in terms of violence or discrimination than Muslims do. See, THAT'S a real problem because it's widespread and systemic, not this one you're trying to make up as you go along.

You're creating a false narrative. Islam doesn't get a special pass because of your self-delusion.

So your purpose for being in this conversation and white knighting for Mr. Previously Banned Racist is just to tone police and make sure that we put a minority group that faces widespread prejudice and attacks on their places of worship in the proper context? Hahahaha

Only one marginalized group at a time, goofy.