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03-04-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
We should make this into a Karl-rove bingo card meme.
03-04-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Oh so it's logical to let people break the law?


In many cases, yes. As has been pointed out to you many times before, we "let people break the law" every single day. We do this because we have determined that complete enforcement of the law against every violator would require a commitment of more time and resources than we are willing to commit, and/or would require measures that are more invasive than we are willing to impose. (See, for example, speeding, drugs, taxes, etc.)

In these cases, we establish enforcement priorities. And when it comes to immigration, it is completely logical to believe that someone who has worked hard, built a life and a family here, and has basically kept their nose clean shouldn't an enforcement priority.
03-04-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Of course we would not do anything to hurt a "toddler" why do liberals always go into kindergarten mode when it comes to debate.
Simple question. Is someone who was brought here at age 3 a criminal or not?
03-04-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
We should make this into a Karl-rove bingo card meme.
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Originally Posted by truefish
Of course we would not do anything to hurt a "toddler" why do liberals always go into kindergarten mode when it comes to debate.
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Insult their Movement

Assign as many character and moral flaws to Liberals as you can. You must portray Liberals as weak, vacillating, indecisive, amoral, baby killers, unpatriotic, effete snobs, elitists, Leftists, Commies, sense of entitlement, promiscuous, union lovers, tax raisers, Welfare Queens, Socialists, lazy, sex-obsessed, druggies, Jesus haters, moochers, troop hater,.etc. Always use these negative epithets when referring to, or describing Liberals / democrats.
03-04-2017 , 03:02 PM
Me during libertarian derail:






QUIT QUOTING TRUEFISH.QUIT QUOTING TRUEFISH. QUIT QUOTING TRUEFISH. QUIT QUOTING TRUEFISH. QUIT QUOTING TRUEFISH.
03-04-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Yeah and one person one vote is the basic premise of democracy. Why do you hate that?
If the electoral college didn't exist, large states such as California and New York would be electing the president every election. That's not how America was founded. A constitutional republic ensures that the smaller states have a voice too. The founding fathers saw this and were geniuses to predict it.

It will never be abolished as long as the USA exists.
03-04-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
In many cases, yes. As has been pointed out to you many times before, we "let people break the law" every single day. We do this because we have determined that complete enforcement of the law against every violator would require a commitment of more time and resources than we are willing to commit, and/or would require measures that are more invasive than we are willing to impose. (See, for example, speeding, drugs, taxes, etc.)

In these cases, we establish enforcement priorities. And when it comes to immigration, it is completely logical to believe that someone who has worked hard, built a life and a family here, and has basically kept their nose clean shouldn't an enforcement priority.
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Contain

Your job is to prevent the presentation and spread of Liberal viewpoints.
Do anything you must do to prevent a Liberal poster from presenting a well-reasoned argument or starting a civil discussion.
Don't allow a Liberal to present their dogma unchallenged EVER.
truefish, you're flailing on this one. Better step up your game.
03-04-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Of course we would not do anything to hurt a "toddler" why do liberals always go into kindergarten mode when it comes to debate.
Brought here at seven years old. Deported for exercising her freedom of speech.

https://twitter.com/DrMelOB/status/837509504577105922
03-04-2017 , 03:04 PM
Alex- You just said they voted for Gary Johnson?
03-04-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
I did answer, no you don't get to come across the border and squat a kid out and call it a dreamer.

Criminal aliens need to be deported.

If the "dreamer" has a criminal record deport them.
what does the bolded part means?
03-04-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Simple question. Is someone who was brought here at age 3 a criminal or not?
If they have commited a crime since then yes, if not no. But they still were not born on American soil so they should not be granted automatic citizenship. An expedited path? Sure.
03-04-2017 , 03:05 PM
I blame the game Civilization for teaching morons that "republic" and "democracy" are mutually exclusive ideas.
03-04-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
If the electoral college didn't exist, large states such as California and New York would be electing the president every election. That's not how America was founded. A constitutional republic ensures that the smaller states have a voice too. The founding fathers saw this and were geniuses to predict it.

It will never be abolished as long as the USA exists.
Wrong. If the President were elected by popular vote, EVERYONE'S voice would count. A person in California, Wyoming, and New York would each get one vote. That's not the way it is currently, where voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania (swing states) get far more influence per person than other states like California.
03-04-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
If the electoral college didn't exist, large states such as California and New York would be electing the president every election. That's not how America was founded. A constitutional republic ensures that the smaller states have a voice too. The founding fathers saw this and were geniuses to predict it.

It will never be abolished as long as the USA exists.
I'm sorry, I just realized I offered you a bet in American money. How about 1 000 000 (one million) rubles? What's the money market interest rate at Sberbank?
03-04-2017 , 03:06 PM
Overstaying a visa is not a crime, by the way. "Illegal immigrant" is literally Orwellian newspeak, it's the dang PC police making us call something it's not for purely partisan reasons.

trufish over here is talking back and y'all are forgetting that none of these people have any ****ing idea what they are talking about, ever, because they literally reject the concept of learning.
03-04-2017 , 03:08 PM
I think I gave truefish too much credit by lumping him in with the alt-right aspies. His definition of logic is "that makes sense to me!"
03-04-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
If they have commited a crime since then yes, if not no. But they still were not born on American soil so they should not be granted automatic citizenship. An expedited path? Sure.
Not sure why that was so hard to extract.

Btw you probably aren't aware of this but the bolded outs you in diametric opposition to the rest of the Trumpkins. You'd get blasted off the Breitbart comments section for holding that view. You may want to upgrade your talking points firmware.
03-04-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Brought here at seven years old. Deported for exercising her freedom of speech.

https://twitter.com/DrMelOB/status/837509504577105922
Bummer. Plenty of "dreamers" are scum bag criminals. No system is perfect and you can never please everyone.

Here is my question. If the United States is so overrated or ****ty as most of you in here so clearly think, then you should be happy these folks are getting out of such a ****ty and oppressive nation.

Why do you care? I mean the USA is so white, bad and evil. Everyone should feel right at home anywhere else but the USA.
03-04-2017 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I think I gave truefish too much credit by lumping him in with the alt-right aspies. His definition of logic is "that makes sense to me!"
Great contribution.
03-04-2017 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
what does the bolded part means?
He's mixing up dreamers and anchor babies. He's clearly given this subject a lot of research and thought and isn't just regurgitating AM radio argle bargle.
03-04-2017 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
I'm sorry, I just realized I offered you a bet in American money. How about 1 000 000 (one million) rubles? What's the money market interest rate at Sberbank?
Yawn.
03-04-2017 , 03:11 PM
Good talk folks. See ya tomorrow.
03-04-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Bummer. Plenty of "dreamers" are scum bag criminals. No system is perfect and you can never please everyone.

Here is my question. If the United States is so overrated or ****ty as most of you in here so clearly think, then you should be happy these folks are getting out of such a ****ty and oppressive nation.

Why do you care? I mean the USA is so white, bad and evil. Everyone should feel right at home anywhere else but the USA.
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Entangle

Insist that the Liberal put their posts in their own words. That will consume the most time and effort for the Liberal poster.

They will be unable to spread numerous points on numerous blogs if you have them occupied. Allowing a Liberal to post a web link is too quick and efficient for them. Tie them up. We are going for delay of game here.
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03-04-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Alex- You just said they voted for Gary Johnson?
Some voted for Johnson, while others I'm sure voted for Trump or Hillary or stayed home. I was using that baseline of 5 million voters, in reality there are probably much more.
03-04-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Wrong. If the President were elected by popular vote, EVERYONE'S voice would count. A person in California, Wyoming, and New York would each get one vote. That's not the way it is currently, where voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania (swing states) get far more influence per person than other states like California.
You proved my point donkey. The smaller states should have a larger influence or they would get pounded by the larger states election after election. You proved my point donkey.

      
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