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12-18-2012 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornboy
I put words in your mouth but you do agree with me.

Which rifle is best for killing a group of 20+ unarmed people that between shots would be able to run away/take cover/call for help that might shoot back? Top or Bottom? Answer honestly. They're not going to sit there and wait to be shot, they will take evasive action.
Just how much time are you expecting "between shots"?

If the TOTAL gap between shots is over 2 seconds (adding up the time between shots) until I shoved a second stripper clip in, you don't know much about guns.

The point here is this can be accomplished with nearly any weapons system. I don't NEED an AR to do it.

Could I do it with an AR? Sure. But I could also do it with a handgun or a deer rifle. As a matter of fact, if I were planning this, I'd likely do it with a Mossberg 500.

I don't even view the AR as the safest/most efficient means of doing it.
12-18-2012 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
Just how much time are you expecting "between shots"?

If the TOTAL gap between shots is over 2 seconds (adding up the time between shots) until I shoved a second stripper clip in, you don't know much about guns.

The point here is this can be accomplished with nearly any weapons system. I don't NEED an AR to do it.

Could I do it with an AR? Sure. But I could also do it with a handgun or a deer rifle. As a matter of fact, if I were planning this, I'd likely do it with a Mossberg 500.

I don't even view the AR as the safest/most efficient means of doing it.
We're not talking about those other guns. We're talking about the two pictured (please note not some other 30-06).

Which would you choose for the scenario I posted where your only goal is to kill as many of the 20+ as possible?
12-18-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
No, .223's have usages. They're great for pest/varmint control, they're fun to plink with.

It's certainly not an ideal round for killing a human though.
It's not very polite to refer to kindergartners as "varmints."
12-18-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
They don't. 75% of gun homicides are using handguns. 4% use rifles, 5% use shotguns (about 16% are uncategorized, though).
This doesn't rebut his point at all.
12-18-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
SuperSwag, bullets are easy to make.
But people are lazy, so they wouldn't. Would mean less bullets. Also I said there would be penalties, so people would do so at their own risk.
12-18-2012 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
If anything I'm planning for the future.

If a gun ban comes along, these three that I'm building will be worth far more in 3-4 years than they are now.

No one who'll be writing the new AWB has ever fired a rifle before.

They'll go after the stocks, they'll go after the threaded barrels, etc.

And the PMags I paid $28/piece for will likely be worth $100/each if a ban goes through.

If not, you can never have too many mags IMO.
wat

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/231...ngton-30-round

http://www.botachtactical.com/mapgulpmag30.html

http://www.brownells.com/magazines/r...prod24192.aspx
12-18-2012 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DBL
The point here is this can be accomplished with nearly any weapons system. I don't NEED an AR to do it.
OK, so what do you NEED your AR for, then?
12-18-2012 , 04:07 PM
Also bullets are easy to make? Yeah, just fire up the ole smelter in the garage and get pouring molten metal. So easy I can't believe I've been buying mine at the store!
12-18-2012 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
That's interesting. So gun nuts make fun of normal people for "being afraid of the big scary gunz", yet they justify their gun nuttery with their fear of "the world".
+1 needs more love.
12-18-2012 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
Utah sixth-grader found with gun in class reportedly says parents encouraged him after Connecticut shooting

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18...#ixzz2FQyKFuNf
Sigh. For those who didn't read the article, the gun was unloaded and the student apparently didn't have any ammo on him, so he wouldn't have been able to fire back if someone attacked the school... But, he was able to pull the gun out on the playground, point it at another students' head and threaten to kill her, so at least that happened.

At this point I'm willing to surrender and admit that I'm completely irrational when it comes to this issue and that I don't see many obvious solutions, but, seriously, there has to be something we can do, right? Or is stuff like this just going to be the new normal?
12-18-2012 , 04:14 PM
what up thread? miss me?

ETA: i'm not gonna slog back through the last dozen pages of AIDS... if you had a question or insult for me please repost it.
12-18-2012 , 04:15 PM
WTF?

That was supposed to be 17 not 28. Damn iPhone postings.
12-18-2012 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Also bullets are easy to make? Yeah, just fire up the ole smelter in the garage and get pouring molten metal. So easy I can't believe I've been buying mine at the store!
lol, this.
12-18-2012 , 04:22 PM
Look, the fact that you two were unaware bullets could be "reloaded" is LOL on you, not me.
12-18-2012 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NeBlis
what up thread? miss me?

ETA: i'm not gonna slog back through the last dozen pages of AIDS... if you had a question or insult for me please repost it.
Results orientated?

December 11, 2012. Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself
September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death
August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed self.
July 20, 2012. killed 12 people and wounded 58.
May 29, 2012. killing 5 and himself
April 6, 2012. shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.
April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University
February 27, 2012. Three students were killed
October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting
September 6, 2011.shot 12 people. Five died,
July 7, 2011. Seven people were shot to death
January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head Six people died,
August 3, 2010. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.
November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot , killing 13 and wounding 29 others.
April 3, 2009. New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.
March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting
February 14, 2008.killing 6 and wounding 21.
February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree
December 5, 2007. NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself.
April 16, 2007. Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.
February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded
October 2, 2006. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.
March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured
March 21, 2005. killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s girlfriend killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.
March 12, 2005. after executing the pastor, the pastor’s 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.
July 8, 2003. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7 before killing himself.
December 26, 2000. Edgewater Technology employee Michael “Mucko” McDermott shot and killed seven of his coworkers
September 15, 1999.killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.
July 29, 1999. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.
April 20, 1999. . They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.
12-18-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
Look, the fact that you two were unaware bullets could be "reloaded" is LOL on you, not me.
Dog, I know about handloading. I can put together a bookcase from Ikea, that doesn't mean I can make my own furniture.

Also, since it seems like you're the kind of guy who gets semantic about clip vs. magazine, handloading is not "making" bullets. The bullet is the part that goes down the barrel. You're thinking of cartridges. It's a common mistake that people who aren't familiar with firearms would make.
12-18-2012 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
WTF?

That was supposed to be 17 not 28. Damn iPhone postings.
Lol mmmmk
12-18-2012 , 04:26 PM
OK..This is Neb,

I need wookie or who ever just banned me for a "personal attack" to please PM me on this account.

I will not post again or try to circumvent my ban with a gimmick, I would have just PM'd but I can't from this account since it doesn't have enough posts.

I was referring to a way of thinking not a person, period. It was not a personal attack.

thanks and sorry to post in thread but again I can't pm, ignore me if you like.

Last edited by WookiePWNT; 12-18-2012 at 04:46 PM. Reason: nevermind yes I can receive and respond to PMs from mods
12-18-2012 , 04:28 PM
lol nibbles
12-18-2012 , 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
Look, the fact that you two were unaware bullets could be "reloaded" is LOL on you, not me.
huh?
12-18-2012 , 04:35 PM


today's posting has delivered
12-18-2012 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Case Closed
huh?
It's sort of a complicated process, but you don't have to purchase professionally manufactured ammo.

Typically it's called "reloading" since usually you're using recycled brass, but you can put your own ammo together if its not readily available.

People who have old military rifles commercially manufactured ammo isn't readily available for do it all the time.
12-18-2012 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornboy
Which would you choose for the scenario I posted where your only goal is to kill as many of the 20+ as possible?
Well I'm glad this thread has taken a disgusting turn down the "well how would you go about slaughtering 20 innocent children, given the chance," alley.

Stay classy, thread, stay classy.
12-18-2012 , 04:46 PM
He said 20 unarmed terrorists, read better.
12-18-2012 , 04:55 PM
Things are becoming clearer....

"The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR."

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-a...r-2447738.html

      
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