Also unrealistic ever, because the 2nd Amendment does contemplate citizenry owning guns.

It's the "Well Regulated Militia" part that the NRA water carriers like to omit. But a blanket ban on personal firearms in this country will never pass constitutional muster, not just right now. Nor should it, frankly.

Guns offer a way for evil people to hurt others on a massive scale, while drugs do not. Also DblJ the difference between guns and drugs, is that guns are way less regulated.

Guns laws are gonna have to change, so just deal with it. Not saying they have to be banned but something needs to change.

Guns are also a completely unnecessary part of civilian society so it shouldn't be that shocking if they were to be banned. Not saying I'd support it but its not like your life would change that much. You couldn't hunt, go to range or kill other people in matter of seconds, big deal.

okay can you answer then?

why do you want to be able to buy 30 round magazines? What situation are you contemplating that you'd need 30 rounds before reloading?

It seems ludicrous to me that any significant portion of the population believes that assault weapons should be in the hands of the public. I'm guessing even most NRA types would think that the general public shouldn't have assault rifles. I think the reason they want to fight over it, and the reason they don't want an assault rifle ban, is that this issue is sort of a buffer for them. If we're fighting over something they don't care that much about, then the more pressing issues are put on the backburner. They probably worry that if an assault weapon ban passes and is upheld, that maybe the government will go after concealed weapons next, and maybe all handguns after that, so they've drawn their line in the sand with this issue.

Oh man how deep down the rabbit hole do you have to be to
A) Remember the bayonets line
and
B) Remember it as a "faux pas" for Obama? That line killed!

DBL, in your tactical expertise, do you think it was a mistake for the Army not to include the M1903 in the Individual Carbine competition? I'm sure they've got some in storage!

You know who has been dropping the ball on this assault rifle kick? EVERY GOVERNMENT OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS. Amateur hour.



P.S. In case anyone wonders, the procedure for buying an assault rifle like the AR 15 varies by state, but in most states it is the exact same as buying any other rifle or shotgun. Background check, no waiting period. It is generally EASIER to buy this:

than it is to buy this:

In your post, you unambiguously called the liberal people ITT who favored gun control "tards." You have no case to plead, and no, your case will not be pled down

Only a faux pas if you don't know the definition of the word "fewer".

Wookie clearly was not invited to any Christmas parties this year

But guns n ammo are invited to xmas parties!

With guns and ammo, you don't need an invitation

If you make it harder to buy Assault Rifles it still doesnt change the outcome of the events from the CT shooting. He stole them from his Moms house, so no background check or more difficult acquisition will help.

How did Columbine shooters get their guns? Curious because I dont know.

Limiting magazines wont do much if anything because you just reload a mag real quick. Army does 30 round magazine because that is the best compromise for going prone with the length of the magazine and obviously it would be better to just not have to change mags if you dont need to.

So the only solution for a banning is a major ban to just Bolt rifles or something which is ridiculous. Then people will just use handguns for mass killings and then people will just say "wtf it didnt work, we must get rid of semi automatic handguns". It will keep going.

Also yes major major gun bans work in other countries but theres a reason people come to America, its called "Freedom" which diminishes by the year anyway. Go live in China if its so incredible there.

We need to focus on the multiple ways to reduce, prevent and stop mass shootings while still being a free country. Its not going to be one single thing. Guns have been available for a long time, why is it now that its so bad?

I guess it is easier to just ban guns and feel better about yourself and not have to really do anything.

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I wonder, if gun homicides increased by an insane degree, say 5 million people murdered a year, would that make gun lovers even more pro gun, or less? Or at that point would gun debates be a moot point because everyone would have to carry to protect themselves from everyone else who is carrying? I guess some could argue america is already there as far as having to carry to have protection from everyone else who is carrying.

They're called gun nuts for a reason.

Actually, it does, because he's got to reload every 10 shots, not every 30, which at least gives the potential for some kids to escape through windows, or...since we know he offed himself when the cops arrived, maybe he gets less shots off before he shoots himself.

It is indisputable that if you have to replace mags three times as often, you are going to get less shots off in that time, and thus *possibly* less children are killed.

. He stole them from his Moms house, so no background check or more difficult acquisition will help.

Here is how:

Exactly...these are Army combat mags. What legitmate civilian purpose do they have? Emphasis on the word "legitimate"

The rest of your post is pretty much hyperbolic on its face, in that virtually no one here is demanding to repeal the 2nd Amendment and ban all guns. From your logic, let's just all get .50 cal machine guns because, heck, it would abridge our freedom to not be able to have one in our garage.

Also yes major major gun bans work in other countries but theres a reason people come to America, its called "Freedom" which diminishes by the year anyway. Go live in China if its so incredible there.

I heard a former cop and veteran on the radio today who said that the true definition of an 'assault weapon' is, and I'm quoting, whatever is currently being fired at you.

Hendricks- Do you oppose the current law requiring background checks for (some) gun sales? What about the restrictions on NFA firearms?

I want a shotgun with a 14" barrel! I don't feel very free right now

I want to enjoy the freedom of not having to fear whether someone with an AR-15 is going to wreak havoc in the food court downstairs, and the freedom of not having to fear getting caught in the crossfire between the next movie theater shooter, and the three vigilante wannabes who want to start trading fire with him across the screening room with no regard to bystanders in between.

Yeah, that's a freedom we used to have in America.

Until there are far fewer mass killings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

If you look at these lists thoroughly, the USA doesn't seem to have a disproportionate number of incidents, considering how much larger the population is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...loped-country/

"The United States has by far the highest per capita rate of all developed countries. According to data compiled by the United Nations, the United States has four times as many gun-related homicides per capita as do Turkey and Switzerland, which are tied for third. The US gun murder rate is about 20 times the average for all other countries on this chart. That means that Americans are 20 times as likely to be killed by a gun than is someone from another developed country."

I love how gun enthusiasts complain that, as "responsible" gun owners they are being unfairly discriminated against by laws that are there to prevent tragedies like in Newton, while at the same time saying things like this.

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but if you're planning on selling weapons or accessories that will be illegal after some upcoming legislation then you are by definition an irresponsible gun owner. As such the ATF is entirely warranted to stomp on you with both jackboots.